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Contractor pays municipality fine with change.

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Because of course they did.
It said it did so to ensure property owners on Lake Sheepscot know that they must follow codes and ordinances, even if they remediate damages once a violation has been issued.
Not about the money at all, I'm sure.

Last Thursday, Sherman dropped off the $20,000 payment entirely in loose change, weighing over 12,000 pounds, to the Palermo Town Office.
Legal tender! Enjoy!
 
Not the first time this stunt was pulled. Sometimes it's a small protest and everybody laughs. But this looks vindictive. And they absolutely can refuse it and demand other payment method.
 
Not the first time this stunt was pulled. Sometimes it's a small protest and everybody laughs.
Yes, heard of court fines and such. But don't believe anything of this scale.
But this looks vindictive.
A bit. But they rectified the situation and still got hit. Of course they apparently did a no-no, but made good. 20k seems a tad steep for something that has been 'fixed'.
And they absolutely can refuse it and demand other payment method.
 
Yes, heard of court fines and such. But don't believe anything of this scale.

A bit. But they rectified the situation and still got hit. Of course they apparently did a no-no, but made good. 20k seems a tad steep for something that has been 'fixed'.
Some fights don't make sense because they're principles against principles and so not entirely logical.
 
Some fights don't make sense because they're principles against principles and so not entirely logical.
Some people aren't logical when coughing up 20k. Just the work in obtaining and hauling it there. F that.
 
Good or bad that would not be legal in Canada

It would have to be rolled or exchanged at a bank for larger denominations
 
Are those pennies? Nickels would work too... what they could have done was melted them down for scrap, sold the metal, and paid the $20,000 out of their profits.

If I were working that office, I'd say "Sorry... the fine isn't paid until you hand it to me in the window." I'd kindly help them roll the pennies in 50-cent rolls until my shift was over. "Sorry... we're closing." Next day, I'd remind them that because the fine wasn't paid on time, another $1,000 or whatever it is has been added to their tab.
 
Are those pennies?
Looks like it. Only 2mil.
Nickels would work too... what they could have done was melted them down for scrap, sold the metal, and paid the $20,000 out of their profits.
If only they could find someone to smelt currency and separate the alloy. Then it's down to numbers on worth it or not.
If i was working the office, I would have a sudden family emergency and have to go.
 
If i was working the office, I would have a sudden family emergency and have to go.
Why? Just the video for social media is worth more than you make in a month. Buckle up and keep riding.
 
Why? Just the video for social media is worth more than you make in a month. Buckle up and keep riding.
Well, you don't know what I make in a month. Sole proprietor electric; can't complain.

But you may be correct. It's money for nothin'. Not sure if the chicks are free or not. Dire Straits

Used to just be people would put themselves in warzones to capture those images/videos for the payday.

Now they just video violence instead of calling 911 and say pay me.
 
Yes, heard of court fines and such. But don't believe anything of this scale.

A bit. But they rectified the situation and still got hit. Of course they apparently did a no-no, but made good. 20k seems a tad steep for something that has been 'fixed'.

"I slowed down immediately after I got caught speeding so I shouldn't have to pay my fine."
 
Another argument for proceeding to a cashless society.
 
What's Coinstar?
It is a Kiosk in which you dump loads of excessive coins. It counts the money and provides you with a receipt that is redeemable for paper bills at the establishment where the kiosk is. In my area, the fee for providing this service is typically 15%. As an alternative, I can opt for a gift card exclusive to the establishment. In that case, there is no fee and I get 100% value for my coins.
 
And they absolutely can refuse it and demand other payment method.
They actually cannot refuse it and demand other payment:

31 USC 5103 said:
United States coins and currency ... are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues.
 
They have one in my local grocery store, but I've never used it. Fifteen percent? ****in' A, man that's usury shit right there.
 
They have one in my local grocery store, but I've never used it. Fifteen percent? ****in' A, man that's usury shit right there.
Well, you're paying for the convenience. That's got to be worth something. And as I wrote, we have the option of getting full value if we choose to spend it at the current location. If it happens to be a grocery store, no problem.
 
Well, you're paying for the convenience. That's got to be worth something. And as I wrote, we have the option of getting full value if we choose to spend it at the current location. If it happens to be a grocery store, no problem.
Fifteen percent is pretty damned inconvenient. I'd rather just go to my credit union. I don't need my loose change sorted that badly to lose 15% of it to a counting machine.
 
Fifteen percent is pretty damned inconvenient. I'd rather just go to my credit union. I don't need my loose change sorted that badly to lose 15% of it to a counting machine.
You credit union will count your change for free? That's mighty nice of them. Most places of business tend to charge something for services rendered.
 
You credit union will count your change for free? That's mighty nice of them. Most places of business tend to charge something for services rendered.
Yes, they will count for free. You just walk in and tell them you want to make a deposit. There's no charge for making a deposit.
 
Yes, they will count for free. You just walk in and tell them you want to make a deposit. There's no charge for making a deposit.
My bank won't do that. They would hand me a bunch of coin wrappers and tell me to wrap them myself. They won't take a bucket of loose change.
 
Fifteen percent is pretty damned inconvenient.
Actually, it depends. If you have a job that pays you say, $40 per hour, and it would take you 30 minutes to sort and wrap $100 worth of loose change, it means you spent $20 to save $15.

I used to have the same argument with my FIL regarding automobile oil changes. He thought it was outrageous that I would take my car to a quicky oil change place rather than do it myself.

I have to go to the store and buy the oil and filter. 20 minutes and $30 easy.
I have to put the car on ramps, collect the oil, then remove and replace the old filter. At least 15 minutes.
I have to get the car off the ramps, stow all the crap, and then PROPERLY DISPOSE of the old oil and filter. At least another 20 minutes. And this is on the weekends, during my days off!

At my hourly rate, I would spend at least twice what they would charge me at the quicky oil change joint. Not to mention the cleanup afterwards. Why would I fritter away my weekend like that?
 
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