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Conspiracy theory master, Adam Schiff: Trump is again conspiring with Russians in 2020.

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Give it a rest, clown boy. Your last Trump/Russian fake conspiracy theory was blown out of the water a dozen times, each time new documents from the investigation were released over democrat objections. Give it up. Your old fictional tales are getting very old and very stale.

Rep. Schiff on CNN: Russia Once Again Helping Trump, And He Doesn't Want the American People to Know - YouTube

Putin is a strategist, he definitely didn't want Clinton to become President simply because she supported protests against Putin back in 2012 that called for regime change in Russia, she was talking very tough against Russia like the ridiculous no fly zone over Syria that could shoot Russian planes or becoming more aggressive with NATO and there was always preaching of “American values” to Russia.

Due to media and 'deep state' in Trump's America I doubt any president after Trump will be able to have good relations with Russia anymore. Putin is definitely disappointed with that but the simple fact that Russia interfered in our American election by leaking emails and flooding social media with propaganda and still Trump claimed it's 'fake news' and the fact that a lot of republicans agree with him is a huge win for Putin. Americans are so divided politically that even when a foreign power interferes in our elections, it's 'no big deal'.

Another victory for Putin is that Trump doesn't care about democracy or human rights and therefore the preaching of American values or promoting liberal democracy has come to a halt coming from the US., especially in Russia. Putin always wanted that. Trump's attack on mainstream media and judiciary may undermine democracy but it is also a victory for Putin because Putin can point and laugh that the president of the world's so-called greatest democracy is undermining democracy itself.
 
Give it a rest, clown boy. Your last Trump/Russian fake conspiracy theory was blown out of the water a dozen times, each time new documents from the investigation were released over democrat objections. Give it up. Your old fictional tales are getting very old and very stale.

Rep. Schiff on CNN: Russia Once Again Helping Trump, And He Doesn't Want the American People to Know - YouTube

There really ought to be a penalty for a Congressman making accusations like this that he cannot prove. Schiff is a disgrace of a human being, a man, an elected representative of americans. He's a weasel and he needs to be gone.
 
There really ought to be a penalty for a Congressman making accusations like this that he cannot prove. Schiff is a disgrace of a human being, a man, an elected representative of americans. He's a weasel and he needs to be gone.

Likewise, there oughta be a penalty for congressmen who ignore national security threats and election interference from hostile nations. Where I come from we call them traitors.
 
Give it a rest, clown boy. Your last Trump/Russian fake conspiracy theory was blown out of the water a dozen times, each time new documents from the investigation were released over democrat objections. Give it up. Your old fictional tales are getting very old and very stale.

Rep. Schiff on CNN: Russia Once Again Helping Trump, And He Doesn't Want the American People to Know - YouTube

The Trump/Russia investigation isn't complete until Trump gives an in person interview with the FBI. The Mueller Report's Volume 2 is devoted entirely to Trump's obstructions of the investigation and there were many. Fortunately, there's no law or policy that says Trump can't or won't get indicted the day he leaves office on Jan. 21, 2021. :giggling:
 
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There really ought to be a penalty for a Congressman making accusations like this that he cannot prove. Schiff is a disgrace of a human being, a man, an elected representative of americans. He's a weasel and he needs to be gone.

He got call logs of people in Trumps orbit, presumably to see who talks to whom. He claimed his position as a House member made him “sovereign”. Finally the WH decided to stop giving secret briefings to the House because of Schiff leaking. If he won’t honor the rules, then read it in a summary.

Schiff uses the intel assessment to selectively leak and create a false narrative with the cooperation of the press.
 
He got call logs of people in Trumps orbit, presumably to see who talks to whom. He claimed his position as a House member made him “sovereign”. Finally the WH decided to stop giving secret briefings to the House because of Schiff leaking. If he won’t honor the rules, then read it in a summary.

Schiff uses the intel assessment to selectively leak and create a false narrative with the cooperation of the press.

Funny, that's exactly what Rep.Nunes, Rep.Gaetz and Rep. Jordan do, too. Unfortunately, they have the same immunity that Schiff does.

Who cares, no one trusts the intel coming out the WH, anyway? And besides, the House is still briefed by the DoD and DHS...but it's hard to say if they're still briefing Trump. They say he doesn't listen (or read) or take national security threats seriously...especially if they come from Russia.
 
Putin is a strategist, he definitely didn't want Clinton to become President simply because she supported protests against Putin back in 2012 that called for regime change in Russia, she was talking very tough against Russia like the ridiculous no fly zone over Syria that could shoot Russian planes or becoming more aggressive with NATO and there was always preaching of “American values” to Russia.

Due to media and 'deep state' in Trump's America I doubt any president after Trump will be able to have good relations with Russia anymore. Putin is definitely disappointed with that but the simple fact that Russia interfered in our American election by leaking emails and flooding social media with propaganda and still Trump claimed it's 'fake news' and the fact that a lot of republicans agree with him is a huge win for Putin. Americans are so divided politically that even when a foreign power interferes in our elections, it's 'no big deal'.

Another victory for Putin is that Trump doesn't care about democracy or human rights and therefore the preaching of American values or promoting liberal democracy has come to a halt coming from the US., especially in Russia. Putin always wanted that. Trump's attack on mainstream media and judiciary may undermine democracy but it is also a victory for Putin because Putin can point and laugh that the president of the world's so-called greatest democracy is undermining democracy itself.

I don't believe the speculations that Putin did anything to help anyone in the 2016 election. What did he do? Vote? No. Corrupt the vote? No. Buy Facebook ads? Doubtful, but lots of people from all over the world buy Facebook ads, so what crime did he commit? Democrats and leftists cannot name any specific thing but they still believe he did do something to help Trump. Well, sincere beliefs are not facts and evidence.

Here is evidence some intelligence officials think Russia may have been trying to help Hillary in the election:
Report: Fmr. CIA Chief Brennan hid intel saying Russia wanted Hillary win in 2016
 
Likewise, there oughta be a penalty for congressmen who ignore national security threats and election interference from hostile nations. Where I come from we call them traitors.

Nevertheless, for some unknown or unproved reason Brennan did not get the NSA involved in the Russian conspiracy theory and the FBI under Comey refused to get involved directly in the investigation of the alleged seditious DNC hack. Even if their motives were pure they proved themselves incompetent by allowing such blaring failures of their duties and responsibilities.
 
The Trump/Russia investigation isn't complete until Trump gives an in person interview with the FBI. The Mueller Report's Volume 2 is devoted entirely to Trump's obstructions of the investigation and there were many. Fortunately, there's no law or policy that says Trump can't or won't get indicted the day he leaves office on Jan. 21, 2021. :giggling:

Trump answered all their questions. He did not need to show up in person, especially after the leftist investigators proved adept at twisting the words of others into unjust criminal charges by twisting the testimony to appear to be dishonest or seditious when it was not. Trump was either lucky or smart not to fall for the wicked trap.
 
Funny, that's exactly what Rep.Nunes, Rep.Gaetz and Rep. Jordan do, too. Unfortunately, they have the same immunity that Schiff does.

Who cares, no one trusts the intel coming out the WH, anyway? And besides, the House is still briefed by the DoD and DHS...but it's hard to say if they're still briefing Trump. They say he doesn't listen (or read) or take national security threats seriously...especially if they come from Russia.

Trump has shown remarkable resilience against lying leftist propaganda.
 
I don't believe the speculations that Putin did anything to help anyone in the 2016 election. What did he do? Vote? No. Corrupt the vote? No. Buy Facebook ads? Doubtful, but lots of people from all over the world buy Facebook ads, so what crime did he commit? Democrats and leftists cannot name any specific thing but they still believe he did do something to help Trump. Well, sincere beliefs are not facts and evidence.

Here is evidence some intelligence officials think Russia may have been trying to help Hillary in the election:
Report: Fmr. CIA Chief Brennan hid intel saying Russia wanted Hillary win in 2016

They aren't 'speculations' marke, they are confirmed facts. Stop ignoring what's right in front of your face, even the republicans have confirmed this fact.
 
There really ought to be a penalty for a Congressman making accusations like this that he cannot prove. Schiff is a disgrace of a human being, a man, an elected representative of americans. He's a weasel and he needs to be gone.

How about Presidents, do have the same set of rules for them?
 
Likewise, there oughta be a penalty for congressmen who ignore national security threats and election interference from hostile nations. Where I come from we call them traitors.

We do have laws. The difference is you need proof in this country not unfounded accusations.
 
Putin is a strategist, he definitely didn't want Clinton to become President simply because she supported protests against Putin back in 2012 that called for regime change in Russia, she was talking very tough against Russia like the ridiculous no fly zone over Syria that could shoot Russian planes or becoming more aggressive with NATO and there was always preaching of “American values” to Russia.

Due to media and 'deep state' in Trump's America I doubt any president after Trump will be able to have good relations with Russia anymore. Putin is definitely disappointed with that but the simple fact that Russia interfered in our American election by leaking emails and flooding social media with propaganda and still Trump claimed it's 'fake news' and the fact that a lot of republicans agree with him is a huge win for Putin. Americans are so divided politically that even when a foreign power interferes in our elections, it's 'no big deal'.

Another victory for Putin is that Trump doesn't care about democracy or human rights and therefore the preaching of American values or promoting liberal democracy has come to a halt coming from the US., especially in Russia. Putin always wanted that. Trump's attack on mainstream media and judiciary may undermine democracy but it is also a victory for Putin because Putin can point and laugh that the president of the world's so-called greatest democracy is undermining democracy itself.

"Fake newz" was the unfounded and discredited theory that the Trump and/or his campaign had conspired with Russia to screw with the election.

As long as people seek to tie the two, there will always be people who will-- correctly-- point out that even the CEO of Crowdstrike has said he cannot state for a fact Russia had hacked the DNC.
 
Putin is a strategist, he definitely didn't want Clinton to become President simply because she supported protests against Putin back in 2012 that called for regime change in Russia, she was talking very tough against Russia like the ridiculous no fly zone over Syria that could shoot Russian planes or becoming more aggressive with NATO and there was always preaching of “American values” to Russia.

Due to media and 'deep state' in Trump's America I doubt any president after Trump will be able to have good relations with Russia anymore. Putin is definitely disappointed with that but the simple fact that Russia interfered in our American election by leaking emails and flooding social media with propaganda and still Trump claimed it's 'fake news' and the fact that a lot of republicans agree with him is a huge win for Putin. Americans are so divided politically that even when a foreign power interferes in our elections, it's 'no big deal'.

Another victory for Putin is that Trump doesn't care about democracy or human rights and therefore the preaching of American values or promoting liberal democracy has come to a halt coming from the US., especially in Russia. Putin always wanted that. Trump's attack on mainstream media and judiciary may undermine democracy but it is also a victory for Putin because Putin can point and laugh that the president of the world's so-called greatest democracy is undermining democracy itself.

Uh huh. Wasn't Hillary the one who showed up with the big, red plastic "reset" button? She wouldn't have done anything to Russia whatever. She was happy to broker their entry into US uranium mining, however, while gladly taking huge donations from them to her foundation and hefty speaking fees for Billy.

Oh, and to say that Trump is undermining anything is comical. He's trying to prevent the undermining, if not destruction, that will happen should the current pack of leftwing radicals and their street thugs gain power.
 
There really ought to be a penalty for a Congressman making accusations like this that he cannot prove. Schiff is a disgrace of a human being, a man, an elected representative of americans. He's a weasel and he needs to be gone.

Schiff is a sociopath trying to hold on to one last shred of relevancy. That people actually vote for this guy is frightening in itself.
 
Funny, that's exactly what Rep.Nunes, Rep.Gaetz and Rep. Jordan do, too. Unfortunately, they have the same immunity that Schiff does.

Who cares, no one trusts the intel coming out the WH, anyway? And besides, the House is still briefed by the DoD and DHS...but it's hard to say if they're still briefing Trump. They say he doesn't listen (or read) or take national security threats seriously...especially if they come from Russia.

That is one of the most simplistic views of the government I have ever seen. LOL.
 
They aren't 'speculations' marke, they are confirmed facts. Stop ignoring what's right in front of your face, even the republicans have confirmed this fact.

No, they are not facts, they are conspiracy theories the democrats dreamed up to try to undermine Trump. There is not an American alive who can spell out in detail what exactly he thinks Putin did to contaminate the election. All anyone has produced are opinions, assumptions, partisan conclusions, innuendo, speculations and narratives, none of which were back by specific detailed facts.

Democrats started out claiming Russia hacked the DNC computers and stole files. That turned out to be false so now they claim Russia must have done something bad because that is supposedly 'what all the government people in DC seem to think.' That is not evidence of factual evidence with specific details, it is evidence of mass delusion.
 
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No, they are not facts, they are conspiracy theories the democrats dreamed up to try to undermine Trump. There is not an American alive who can spell out in detail what exactly he thinks Putin did to contaminate the election. All anyone has produced are opinions, assumptions, partisan conclusions, innuendo, speculations and narratives, none of which were back by specific detailed facts.

Democrats started out claiming Russia hacked the DNC computers and stole files. That turned out to be false so now they claim Russia must have done something bad because that is supposedly 'what all the government people in DC seem to think.' That is not evidence of factual evidence with specific details, it is evidence of mass delusion.

Wrong again marke, there is documented evidence as to the ways Russia helped get Trump elected.

This was an incredibly large, and well-planned, and well-executed program, with a lot of moving parts, and a lot of players. You could just make it a point to read some of the indictments. That would at least get you started but you're not going to do that, so I'll assist you.

Here is a good one to start with. This is an indictment of 13 Russian agents who were sent to the U.S. with false IDs, to run major propaganda programs and to stage rallies, create fake news websites, spread fake stories on Facebook and Twitter, stage fake parades, and even fake “confrontations” and “fights” and fake events such as burning effigies, to create inflammatory news stories.

Go on, read the actual indictment; Read the full indictment of 13 Russian nationals for 2016 election interference | PBS NewsHour

Then, perhaps move to the indictment of the 12 Russian GRU spies who hacked into five computer systems, stole all of the documents, and then sent them to Wikileaks to release publicly, to try to aid Trump’s campaign.

Here's the link to those indictments: Read Mueller’s full indictment against 12 Russian officers for election interference | PBS NewsHour

This last example describes how the Trump campaign was coordinating with Wikileaks to try to time the gradual release of those stolen documents. The Trump campaign wanted to “control” the time and dates of these “document dumps,” so they would occur on days when the Trump campaign really needed the most help.

Here's the link; Roger Stone: Read the full indictment against Donald Trump adviser

I could go on, but I won't because you're in denial marke, you don't want the facts or know the truth. The above are very real examples. Note that in all of the above cases, Grand Juries have seen the actual evidence, and they were convinced enough by that evidence to vote for indictments.
 
We do have laws. The difference is you need proof in this country not unfounded accusations.

Tell that to the OP. Or better yet, tell that to Trump.
 
Wrong again marke, there is documented evidence as to the ways Russia helped get Trump elected.

How, exactly? The left does not provide specifics and details. Did Russia give Trump money? It gave the Clintons millions. Does that count?

This was an incredibly large, and well-planned, and well-executed program, with a lot of moving parts, and a lot of players. You could just make it a point to read some of the indictments. That would at least get you started but you're not going to do that, so I'll assist you.
Here is a good one to start with. This is an indictment of 13 Russian agents who were sent to the U.S. with false IDs, to run major propaganda programs and to stage rallies, create fake news websites, spread fake stories on Facebook and Twitter, stage fake parades, and even fake “confrontations” and “fights” and fake events such as burning effigies, to create inflammatory news stories.

You think Russians engaged in campaigning for Trump? Really? Is that illegal? Were not supporters of Hillary doing the same things? Why did Mueller have to drop the charges on Russians who challenged his indictments in court? Because he knew he could prove nothing he had alleged in the indictments.


Like I said, Mueller proved his indictments were bogus because he dropped the charges when the Russians showed up in court to challenge him. An indictment is not proof of guilt.

Then, perhaps move to the indictment of the 12 Russian GRU spies who hacked into five computer systems, stole all of the documents, and then sent them to Wikileaks to release publicly, to try to aid Trump’s campaign.

The Senate Intelligence committee finally released secret testimony of CrowdStrike, the private entity charged with doing the investigation for the FBI, and CrowdStrike said they never had direct evidence that Russians stole DNC emails and gave them to Assange.


An indictment is not proof of guilt. It is an unproved allegation.
 
How, exactly? The left does not provide specifics and details. Did Russia give Trump money? It gave the Clintons millions. Does that count?



You think Russians engaged in campaigning for Trump? Really? Is that illegal? Were not supporters of Hillary doing the same things? Why did Mueller have to drop the charges on Russians who challenged his indictments in court? Because he knew he could prove nothing he had alleged in the indictments.



Like I said, Mueller proved his indictments were bogus because he dropped the charges when the Russians showed up in court to challenge him. An indictment is not proof of guilt.



The Senate Intelligence committee finally released secret testimony of CrowdStrike, the private entity charged with doing the investigation for the FBI, and CrowdStrike said they never had direct evidence that Russians stole DNC emails and gave them to Assange.



An indictment is not proof of guilt. It is an unproved allegation.

Marke, I clearly took the trouble of giving you evidence collected through a legal FBI investigation into the ways and methods Russia interfered in the election. Why are you so blind to reject clear evidence staring you in the face? You're living in an alternate reality, and world inside your head that's in denial of fact. Mueller NEVER retracted any of those indictments, that's a lie.
 
There really ought to be a penalty for a Congressman making accusations like this that he cannot prove. Schiff is a disgrace of a human being, a man, an elected representative of americans. He's a weasel and he needs to be gone.

LOL You must be joking. Our institutions have repeatedly warned us that Russia is helping Trump again this year.

On Russia, U.S. intelligence assesses that the Kremlin “is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate former Vice President Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia ‘establishment.’” Russian officials are “spreading claims about corruption” to try to “undermine” Biden and the Democratic Party, the statement said.

“Some Kremlin-linked actors are also seeking to boost President Trump’s candidacy on social media and Russian television,” it said.

U.S. intel: Russia trying to hurt Biden, but China, Iran don'''t want Trump
 
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