Conspiracy theory master, Adam Schiff: Trump is again conspiring with Russians in 2020.

[marke]

Maybe it's meaningless to you that there have been so many men indicted and found guilty on charges related to Russia's interference, but it sure mean a whole hell of a lot to the majority of Americans in this country. Can you name any previous United States president that has had so many men in his administration or in his campaign that have been even suspected of such heinous crimes much less be indicted and convicted of those crimes? Go on, name one.

Flynn has been vindicated multiple times but the leftist crooks cruelly force him to keep waiting for the judge to dismiss or rule on the case. The judge has no intention of ever doing so in spite of the fact that he proves everything he is doing to Flynn is for the evil benefit of the wicked merciless leftist democrat party. The demon democrats are trying to force Trump to step in and put a stop to the injustice so they can dishonestly charge him with some sort of evil motive in the case. Unjust men are not trying to take over America. They already have.

 

[marke]

MANAFORT -----> shared inside information about the presidential race with Konstantin V. Kilimnik and the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs whom he served -----------PUTIN!

Report Details Manafort’s Ties During 2016 Trump Campaign to a Russian Agent - The New York Times

And yet, for all the criminal charges the Trump-hating leftist crooks brought against Manafort, the alleged crime of 'leaking to the Russians' was not one of them. Go figure. The leftist propaganda machine keeps rolling along with its campaign of lies and misinformation. All charges he was convicted on were from things he did from 2011 through 2014 and none of the charges had anything to do with his involvement with President Trump, although they had a lot to do with democrat partners who were doing the same things but never charged by the Trump-hating, Hillary-loving Mueller team.

 

[marke]

As true Americans understand, the real "dupes" are the people who believe every bat-crap-crazy conspiracy theory promoted by their Dear Leader (Trump). And the "Collusion Hoax" is probably #1 on that list. Those who believe that Trump did NOT "collude" with the Russian government in 2016...are fools (at best), and disgusting traitors (at worst).

It is sad the way deceived supporters of the democrat party cannot see the evil the democrat party is doing and supporting right in front of their eyes while dishonestly blaming Trump for every sort of evil, real or imagined. Democrat dupes blindly gobble up the Trump-hating pap their leftist deceivers feed them and then repeat the lies like programmed robots with no brains of their own.

 

[ultmd]

America is no better than North Korea when it allows criminals to avoid justice and crooked prosecutors and judges to pervert justice.

And yet, people like you continue to support the most criminal president and administration in our history. We seen more lies and corruption from this president, than from every president before him combined. Most decent people recognize this, which explains Trump's lowest-in-history approval numbers since Day 1 of his presidency.

Years ago O.J. was tried for murder. He got off in spite of clearly being guilty and millions cheered. That may have been a happy day for the unjust and the immoral, but it was a sad day for truth and righteousness in America.

:lamo ..O.J.???

White people just can't seem to get over OJ...and that's FUNNY! O.J. Simpson "got off" because he was incompetently prosecuted, and because the behavior of racist LAPD cops was exposed during the trial. But OJ is unique, because he's black and he got away with killing a white woman in America. That makes him a unicorn. He was never a hero in the black community, not by any means. But he's the first (and only) black man to get away with something that white men have been doing regularly (and with impunity) for as long as this country has existed. And THAT is the only reason people like you STILL obsess about him.

To this day, people like you will "cheer" every high-profile case in which a white man gets away with murdering a black man or woman in public...even on video, for Pete's sake! And yet, you all still have the nerve to feign indignation about a 25 year old murder case which turned on the credibility (or lack thereof) of the police, and for which no video evidence existed. There have been plenty of controversial, high-profile murder mystery cases since the 1990's, Robert. Even ones with controversial outcomes in which likely killers were not charged or not convicted. But for some reason, the OJ case ALWAYS comes to mind for conservative white men. I think the reasons are obvious, and quite revealing.

Since that day, but not because of that day, America has become more degenerate and immoral. God may see the love in America for sin and depravity and decide America deserves to be overtaken by godless thugs out to destroy freedom and prosperity in America for very wicked selfish reasons.

The above is a rather typical, ignorant, self-absorbed viewpoint from an entitled conservative white dude. The greatest internal threat to American democracy is (and has long been) the threat of violence and terrorism from White Nationalist types who share your worldview. That reality persists today, more than ever. And if you are truly a believer (as opposed to an opportunistic poser, like most of your ilk), you know that that God is not fooled.

 

[ultmd]

It is sad the way deceived supporters of the democrat party cannot see the evil the democrat party is doing and supporting right in front of their eyes while dishonestly blaming Trump for every sort of evil, real or imagined. Democrat dupes blindly gobble up the Trump-hating pap their leftist deceivers feed them and then repeat the lies like programmed robots with no brains of their own.

Again, Trump's dupes are either witting, or unwitting....but they are definitely dupes. That part is not up for debate.

They, like you, are bereft of substantive arguments...and prone to dishonesty. And that's why they gravitate toward fascistic autocratic leaders like Trump. Today, you people are sympathetic toward authoritarian dictators like Putin. A century ago, you'd have all been Nazis sympathizers.

 

[HumblePi]

And yet, for all the criminal charges the Trump-hating leftist crooks brought against Manafort, the alleged crime of 'leaking to the Russians' was not one of them. Go figure. The leftist propaganda machine keeps rolling along with its campaign of lies and misinformation. All charges he was convicted on were from things he did from 2011 through 2014 and none of the charges had anything to do with his involvement with President Trump, although they had a lot to do with democrat partners who were doing the same things but never charged by the Trump-hating, Hillary-loving Mueller team.

He's a racketeering son of a bitch. We'll soon be rid of him. I want him thrown onto the street like the bag of cesspool garbage he is. That's what I want to see.

 

[US&THEM]

Believing Trump conspired with Russians just because that is what lying leftists claim is stupid, but really stupid given that many of Trump's leftist enemies have admitted there is no evidence Trump did any such thing.

Guess you didn’t read the Senate report. Trumps people operated like fools.

 

[HumblePi]

And yet, for all the criminal charges the Trump-hating leftist crooks brought against Manafort, the alleged crime of 'leaking to the Russians' was not one of them. Go figure. The leftist propaganda machine keeps rolling along with its campaign of lies and misinformation. All charges he was convicted on were from things he did from 2011 through 2014 and none of the charges had anything to do with his involvement with President Trump, although they had a lot to do with democrat partners who were doing the same things but never charged by the Trump-hating, Hillary-loving Mueller team.

Of course it was and I proved that to you. Who do you think Kilimnick and Deripaska are working for and representing? You need a refresher course in geopolitics.

 

[Athanasius68]

MANAFORT -----> shared inside information about the presidential race with Konstantin V. Kilimnik and the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs whom he served -----------PUTIN!

Report Details Manafort’s Ties During 2016 Trump Campaign to a Russian Agent - The New York Times

Yes he did.
And he was never charged for that-- as its not against the law to send inside info of a political campaign to other people.
As the Senate report concluded, they have no idea why Manafort did this. And the reason why that is their conclusion is because there is absolutely no evidence of a conspiracy where that transfer of polling data would be part of it.
manafort said he did it for the money. Seems like a good explanation.

 

[Athanasius68]

Of course it was and I proved that to you. Who do you think Kilimnick and Deripaska are working for and representing? You need a refresher course in geopolitics.

We already know that Russia was targeting the election.
The question was always did the Trump campaign conspire in those efforts.
And the answer is clearly 'no.'
The issue that remains now is why the Obama Admin thought it was.

 

[Casper]

I truly love seeing the word Banned when placed in the correct position.

 

[Athanasius68]

Of course, ALL of them were.

So I can only presume that your definition of what constituted a "role" in the Trump campaign is something that would make most rational people laugh out loud.

None of them were.

 

[HumblePi]

Yes he did.
And he was never charged for that-- as its not against the law to send inside info of a political campaign to other people.
As the Senate report concluded, they have no idea why Manafort did this. And the reason why that is their conclusion is because there is absolutely no evidence of a conspiracy where that transfer of polling data would be part of it.
manafort said he did it for the money. Seems like a good explanation.

Really?........you are actually sitting here justifying Paul Manafort's aiding and abetting Russia to interfere in our election. REALLY????

Sure, send campaign information and voter registration secure, private information to others IN THE CAMPAIGN, NOT TO ****ING RUSSIAN!!

 

[HumblePi]

We already know that Russia was targeting the election.
The question was always did the Trump campaign conspire in those efforts.
And the answer is clearly 'no.'
The issue that remains now is why the Obama Admin thought it was.

The answer to your question is 'yes'. Yes, the Trump campaign knew what Russia was doing and 'yes' they openly cooperated with those efforts.

President Admits Trump Tower Meeting Was Meant to Get Dirt on Clinton
President Admits Trump Tower Meeting Was Meant to Get Dirt on Clinton - The New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Sunday that a Trump Tower meeting between top campaign aides and a Kremlin-connected lawyer was designed to “get information on an opponent” — the starkest acknowledgment yet that a statement he dictated last year about the encounter was misleading.

 

[Athanasius68]

Really?........you are actually sitting here justifying Paul Manafort's aiding and abetting Russia to interfere in our election. REALLY????

Sure, send campaign information and voter registration secure, private information to others IN THE CAMPAIGN, NOT TO ****ING RUSSIAN!!

Nobody is justifying what Manafort did.
The allegation was always that the campaign conspired with Russia.
It didn't happen.
Russia targeted the Trump campaign. That is scarcely the fault of the campaign.

 

[Athanasius68]

The answer to your question is 'yes'. Yes, the Trump campaign knew what Russia was doing and 'yes' they openly cooperated with those efforts.

President Admits Trump Tower Meeting Was Meant to Get Dirt on Clinton
President Admits Trump Tower Meeting Was Meant to Get Dirt on Clinton - The New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Sunday that a Trump Tower meeting between top campaign aides and a Kremlin-connected lawyer was designed to “get information on an opponent” — the starkest acknowledgment yet that a statement he dictated last year about the encounter was misleading.

We already know the Clinton campaign sought and received dirt on Trump from Russian sources. And we also know that the FBI believes that dirt, at least in part, a product of Russian disinformation..
Trump received nothing from Russian efforts; Clinton actually received something. Did Clinton know about Russian efforts? Beats me.
But its the same problem for both-- Russia targeted the election.

 

[redbeer]

Give it a rest, clown boy. Your last Trump/Russian fake conspiracy theory was blown out of the water a dozen times, each time new documents from the investigation were released over democrat objections. Give it up. Your old fictional tales are getting very old and very stale.

Rep. Schiff on CNN: Russia Once Again Helping Trump, And He Doesn't Want the American People to Know - YouTube

Most of the liberal leftist on this site believe to this day that Trump colluded with Russia, even with all the truth coming out in the open. There can be no discussing this issue with cultists.

 

[HumblePi]

Nobody is justifying what Manafort did.
The allegation was always that the campaign conspired with Russia.
It didn't happen.
Russia targeted the Trump campaign. That is scarcely the fault of the campaign.

The fault of the campaign was their willing participation and acceptance of Russian interference.

 

[HumblePi]

We already know the Clinton campaign sought and received dirt on Trump from Russian sources. And we also know that the FBI believes that dirt, at least in part, a product of Russian disinformation..
Trump received nothing from Russian efforts; Clinton actually received something. Did Clinton know about Russian efforts? Beats me.
But its the same problem for both-- Russia targeted the election.

Trump received the office of presidency thanks to Russia's efforts. You're deflecting when there isn't one iota of proof that Hillary Clinton took any assistance from a foreign adversary. Russia is STILL interfering and TRUMP is welcoming it every single day.

 

[Athanasius68]

The fault of the campaign was their willing participation and acceptance of Russian interference.

They didn't participate. We now know that. Claiming otherwise is spreading 'misinformation.'

 

[Athanasius68]

Trump received the office of presidency thanks to Russia's efforts. You're deflecting when there isn't one iota of proof that Hillary Clinton took any assistance from a foreign adversary. Russia is STILL interfering and TRUMP is welcoming it every single day.

We do have proof-- its called the Steele dossier. We have known about this for almost four years now.
And we have known that the content of dossier came from Russians.
But you are right-- we don't have any proof that Mrs. Clinton knew that Russian intelligence was feeding Steele dirt on Trump. Nor is there any reason to think that she did know.
Which is the same with respect to Trump.

Russia targeted the 2016 election and targeted both campaigns. The Democrats have chosen to use Russian efforts as a political weapon.

 

[HumblePi]

We do have proof-- its called the Steele dossier. We have known about this for almost four years now.
And we have known that the content of dossier came from Russians.
But you are right-- we don't have any proof that Mrs. Clinton knew that Russian intelligence was feeding Steele dirt on Trump. Nor is there any reason to think that she did know.
Which is the same with respect to Trump.

Russia targeted the 2016 election and targeted both campaigns. The Democrats have chosen to use Russian efforts as a political weapon.

Get the facts straight, just once, okay?

During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information.

 

[Athanasius68]

Get the facts straight, just once, okay?

During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information.

Ok-- And...?
It's what was said-- Steele's work was on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

 

[HumblePi]

Ok-- And...?
It's what was said-- Steele's work was on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

So the **** what?

 

[Athanasius68]

So the **** what?

Its an "iota" of evidence that the Clinton campaign actually took "assistance" from a "foreign adversary."