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Considering Abortion :confused:

Synch said:
I support abortion rights. It aborts liberal babies.(to be aborted babies are usually born into poverty, and stay there, so they tend to vote Democrat)

As sick as that is, you gotta admit, it was kinda funny........:mrgreen:

I appreciate humor. I think that would make a great South Park story line.

My humor has been known to be off-color on occassion as well. I hope mine is equally appreciated.
 
You're both bloody disgusting. Especially you, Captain America. I hardly see how inflicting your self-righteous senility on women in distress is the caring thing to do, gramps. :roll:
 
Bravo, Vergis. It is mandiie's life and she knows the reality of her choices. Scare mongering doesn't help her and is unkind and mean-spirited.
 
steen said:
manipulating somebody who asks for help very much fits the bill.

She asked for advice. He provided that advice with supportive (if emotional) evidence. Since it's an emotional issue, I can hardly call that unfair.

Whatever she chooses, she's going to need to know if she can face the consequences. If seeing those pictures while contemplating abortion hurts her, it is better that she learns this now than afterwards-- if it's bad now, what's going to happen when she sees someone else strolling their children in the park?

Every option available to her has consequences, and some of those consequences are going to be painful. It's best that she think about all of them before making her decision, so that whatever she chooses is something she is capable of living with.

That's why my-- extremely limited-- advice was to talk to her family. They're in a better position to help her than any of us.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
She asked for advice. He provided that advice with supportive (if emotional) evidence. Since it's an emotional issue, I can hardly call that unfair.

Whatever she chooses, she's going to need to know if she can face the consequences. If seeing those pictures while contemplating abortion hurts her, it is better that she learns this now than afterwards-- if it's bad now, what's going to happen when she sees someone else strolling their children in the park?
I cannot agree with you. A person's mental health and/or stress/anxiety at the time of making a decision doesn't automatically translate to similar concerns later. Flooding a person with propaganda makes them very susceptible to a decision they then later will regret when they are not exposed to the same emotional barrage. It is as likely that being exposed to pro-life, misrepresentative fetal porn will make her make a decision she seriously will regret later.

Every option available to her has consequences, and some of those consequences are going to be painful. It's best that she think about all of them before making her decision, so that whatever she chooses is something she is capable of living with.
But any decision made on emotions will likely be regretted later. If you can't think logically about your situation, your choice will be sub-optimal and a source for regret later.

That's why my-- extremely limited-- advice was to talk to her family. They're in a better position to help her than any of us.
Not everybody's family is conducive to discussion and support in cases like this (The main reason why the teen notification laws can be so devastating). But I agree that only by talking with others that she trust will she be able to ensure having made a decision she can live with. And yes, her ambivalence toward abortion to begin with is certainly setting her up as a risk for regretting either outcome, so she must talk with somebody to sort this out.
 
Hi mandiie, I agree with the advice of most of the posters here that you need to consider your choice very carefully. Right now you have to forget about ex-boyfriend altogether for the time being and consider yourself and your unborn child. You need to seek advice and support from your family members and friends whom you can confide and trust. You also need to gather all the infomation you can get to make a sound and informed decision. Here are some links that you may want to look at:

http://www.priestsforlife.org/crisis.html

http://www.thehelpline.org/

http://www.adopting.org/adoptions/unplanned-pregnancy-crisis-first-questions-first-answers-about-adoption.html

http://www.abortionalternatives.com/

http://www.adoptioninformation.com/Crisis_pregnancy

I hope you consider carefully your present crisis and made the right decision without future regret.
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mandiie84 said:
I am 22 and did not plan on getting pregnant but i did... things with me and my boy friend was great but when i was 4 1/2 months pregnant he left me for my cousin. And I didn't want the baby in the first place but now I dont know what to do. I am so confused I have nothing to do with him but i dont know if i am ready for a baby i am depressed because in a way i want my baby but then i dont i just dont know what to do. I never believed in abortions but now i dont know. I dont know if i can take of my baby the way it should be i dont know if i will hold what the baby's father did to me against the baby I just dont know anything. everyone says i shouldnt blame the baby but i feel like i will even though i dont want to. and i have considered adoption but i dont know if i could do that. Im not looking for people to tell me that abortion is wrong or anything I just want to know what others would do. i am now 20 weeks pregnant and where i live i have 3 weeks to decide if i want the baby or not. I just dont know what to do. I feel like if i have an abortion i will regret it but i also feel it i have the baby i will regret it. I think a lot of it too is im not ready to grow up and be a single mom. I saw how it was for my mom but i dont know if i could do it. I am just so confused and depressed and need help.

Maybe I have become too cynical in my old age, but this post seems like a plant. I mean, there are punctuation, grammar, and capitalization errors, but every word is spelled perfectly. Maybe the poster used the spellcheck? But it would have caught Im, and im. Seems odd to me.

But Mandiie, I apologize if I'm wrong. And I can't give any advice that hasn't been given already. Consult everyone close to you that you trust. You mentioned your Mom, who you said raised you as a single mother. She would be your best source if you guys get along. You must have friends who can help, or a minister. I'm sure there must be help lines you can phone, and counseling outlets. Good luck.
 
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tryreading said:
Maybe I have become too cynical in my old age, but this post seems like a plant. I mean, there are punctuation, grammar, and capitalization errors, but every word is spelled perfectly. Maybe the poster used the spellcheck? But it would have caught Im, and im. Seems odd to me.

i dont know about you but when im upset and crying while writing i dont much care how im writing and i try to get the words spelled right so people can read what im saying. no i dont get along that good with my mom, though i am living with her at the moment. no i odnt have any friends...i dont trust people...my ex left me for my cousin who was my only friend and she is just as guilty as he is...is why i dont trust people. all i did was want some opinions but ive gotten all i need to know so im done with this board. thank you to people to posted i appreciate it. i still am undecided as far as what to do but hopefully i can decide soon.
 
Mandiee, the only advice I can really give you is to talk to your family and to think things over yourself. The advice of your family and friends is surely valubale but please make sure that you do what YOU want, as it's you who'll have to deal with the choice you make. Whichever decision you make, as long as it's what you really want, is the right decision, and you need to feel no guilt or shame.
 
vergiss said:
You're both bloody disgusting. Especially you, Captain America. I hardly see how inflicting your self-righteous senility on women in distress is the caring thing to do, gramps. :roll:

Because the best thing to do in this situation would be to find a politics website, go to the abortion forum, and ask what to do with ones baby? It just seems odd. There are so many INFINITELY better places to get advice.
 
RightatNYU said:
Because the best thing to do in this situation would be to find a politics website, go to the abortion forum, and ask what to do with ones baby? It just seems odd. There are so many INFINITELY better places to get advice.

Agreed. Still, she came here, so we owe it to her to help her in the fairest way that we can.
 
vergiss said:
Agreed. Still, she came here, so we owe it to her to help her in the fairest way that we can.

And I think the best way to do that is to tell her to go talk to people who know what they're talking about, and not to listen to random people on an internet politics message board.
 
Synch said:
I support abortion rights. It aborts liberal babies.(to be aborted babies are usually born into poverty, and stay there, so they tend to vote Democrat)


you should read the first section of "Freakonomics" by steven levitt and some other guy............he'd add a cool twist to your view on who has been aborted :)
 
RightatNYU said:
And I think the best way to do that is to tell her to go talk to people who know what they're talking about, and not to listen to random people on an internet politics message board.

Haven't we all done that about 50 times already?
 
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