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Conservatives more susceptible to believing falsehoods

ataraxia said:
So how do you distinguish between science and "academic propaganda"?
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Social sciences aren't hard sciences, first of all. They are fraught with subjectivity.

Progressive movements are often based on social theory du jour kind of stuff that shifts winds every 5 years or so, when an academic group comes out with the new pet theory about societal ills that they can profit off of on book tours, etc.

Civil movements used to be from the grassroots up but now - at least among progressive circles - they are top-down theories issued by academic ivoy towers on college campuses. Liberals are prone to accepting such theories as valid products of a civil right's movement, but they're not really.
 
Remember the Obama phones and gas? Just putting this in because people tend to believe the bs politicians are pumping. Iow, get off your partisan horse.
 
ataraxia said:
So how do you distinguish between science and "academic propaganda"?
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Research, a variety of sources, examining their sources (bibliographies), cross-referencing theories and results, peer-reviewed status, learning who the disruptors and leaders in the field are and their credibility, etc.
 
ataraxia said:
So how do you distinguish between science and "academic propaganda"?
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We could narrow it down to the "**&^^^" who think that anyone who disagrees with them to be scum. Now, dare I ask, how about people being just that, with all their faults and bits and bobs?
Now, jog along like a good partisan jockey and get your prize.
This, being in a common places, I'll take the reprimand.
 
ataraxia said:
Yeah, sure. And that's why gas prices are high. Ask any economist. Everyone knows it.
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They we're in December.
ataraxia said:
So why are you trying to blame it on Biden? It's silly, makes you look desperate, and makes you lose any little credibility you had left. Smart tip: try to say things that don't make people laugh at you.
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Because the inflation, gas prices, etc happened because of Biden. Pay attention.
 
Northern Light said:
Social sciences aren't hard sciences, first of all. They are fraught with subjectivity.

Progressive movements are often based on social theory du jour kind of stuff that shifts winds every 5 years or so, when an academic group comes out with the new pet theory about societal ills that they can profit off of on book tours, etc.

Civil movements used to be from the grassroots up but now - at least among progressive circles - they are top-down theories issued by academic ivoy towers on college campuses. Liberals are prone to accepting such theories as valid products of a civil right's movement, but they're not really.
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But these days we are talking about climate change science (a lot of physics and chemistry) or biomedical sciences and medicine.
 
Lursa said:
Research, a variety of sources, examining their sources (bibliographies), cross-referencing theories and results, peer-reviewed status, learning who the disruptors and leaders in the field are and their credibility, etc.
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For people most of whom barely got through high school science class? Because they are the ones who are most passionately questioning the consensus of the scientists.
 
"Democrats now tend to be more educated than Republicans, possibly making the latter more vulnerable to the Dunning-Kruger effect. In fact, a Pew Research Center poll released in March of this year found that 54 percent of college graduates identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic, compared to 39 percent who identified or leaned Republican.
This effect may help explain why certain Trump supporters seem to be so easily tricked into believing proven falsehoods"
www.psychologytoday.com

The Dunning-Kruger Effect May Help Explain Trump's Support

A new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.
www.psychologytoday.com www.psychologytoday.com
 
Hey, we're not the ones who voted for Biden.
 
ataraxia said:
For people most of whom barely got through high school science class? Because they are the ones who are most passionately questioning the consensus of the scientists.
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Can they read? IMO it's a matter of an open mind, some effort, and the ability to read.

If you come into it with blind, rigid beliefs/opinions and arent willing to consider other views...that's a character flaw IMO and sinks many into willful ignorance.
 
AGENT J said:
Im willing to bet this exists in pendulum form .. .where it varies from time to time with different parties/groups being more guilty than others at times.

But yes "CURRENTLY" 8/8/21 the conservatives have a clear stranglehold on believing baths insane tinfoil hat information

also to be very clear though, im talking about the extremists . . . millions of those on the rights mock stolen elections claims and qanon etc so it is ALL
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The article says this study was over a six-month period. A pendulum swing is not going to happen that fast.
 
Lursa said:
Can they read? IMO it's a matter of an open mind, some effort, and the ability to read.

If you come into it with blind, rigid beliefs/opinions and arent willing to consider other views...that's a character flaw IMO and sinks many into willful ignorance.
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When it comes to highly technical subjects, whether virology or CO2 feedback loops, I am afraid that making critical analyses and judgment of the latest data is going to take a little more than just a little common sense and the ability to read.

Science these days has become ridiculously technical and specialized. Even people already with MDs or PhDs often defer to their colleagues in various specialties when dealing with complex questions and probl ms- for example a Covid patient who develops heart rhythm disturbances may have their infectious disease specialist refer them to a cardiologist colleague for further care; or a physicist working on the thermodynamics of climate feedback loops over the Arctic may find he needs to work with a colleague in organic chemistry.

When it comes to modern acience, you are welcome to have opinions on the most current and best observations that specialists in that field have been able to come up with over the years. But it is ridiculous to think that inexperienced and uneducated laypeople can know better and “see through their ruse” because they have common sense, can read at the high school level,, or have an “open mind” toward what some wealthy real estate guy or cable news pundit has to say about it.

IOW, you are welcome to have opinions on the facts. But you cannot make up your own facts. The conviction that a free, proud, and independent patriot can just common sense their way through modern science based on how they feel and can understand may be one reason why conservatives these daysare so prone to such outlandish falsehoods and conspiracy theories these days.
 
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Patriotic Voter said:
The article says this study was over a six-month period. A pendulum swing is not going to happen that fast.
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??? ok . . . .who said anything about the speed of the pendulum?
 
Bullseye said:
Yeah, Trump did a great job of building a resilient economy and Biden has been smart enough not to f**k with it. And when he does - it gets worse.
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:ROFLMAO:
Bullseye said:
It sure did. It sprung back big time. Do some actual research.
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And all's it took to spring back was to get that fat ass orange guy off it's neck.
 
Bullseye said:
Yeah, Trump did a great job of building a resilient economy and Biden has been smart enough not to f**k with it. And when he does - it gets worse.
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Trump did good job of inheriting a resilient economy from the past administration. He did nothing to build a good economy.
 
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