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Conservative House Republicans Say They Have Votes to Block Health Bill


I suggest you take a closer look at the parliamentary system. Like all systems it is imperfect, however having lived in both countries I can say that one, government is more approachable, open and honest. Cabinet ministers and the prime minister by law must answer all correspondence.

I have also seen that the parliamentary system is more versatile, bad governments can be removed far more easily...some have lasted as little as 100 days before the populace dumped them.

Trump for exampe might likely be facing a "confidence motion" which if he loses, he has to resign his government and face the electorate.

Just don't ask mew about our Senate.
 

They will "come home."
 
ObamacareFail said:
It really does not matter whether or not we like the two party system. Unless we were to go to a European type parliamentary system(not going to happen) the two party system is here to stay.
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unfortunately, you're probably right. however, that's an argument for the reality of the system, not that is it optimal or even viable long term.


the duopoly is too firmly entrenched and gerrymandered for third parties to have any real impact. this could be addressed, but i doubt that it will happen within my lifetime.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Stranger things have happened
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It looks like the bill may indeed pass by giving the Freedom Caucus its wish to eliminate the "Essential Health Benefits:"


The latest health care cut Republicans are weighing, explained - Vox

I really hate being right.
 
Cardinal said:
They will "come home."
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I think you're right
Trump can't afford to lose Bill #1, but they may have to delete things like Maternity to sate the Right.
Some "honeymoon" this is for Trumpov & Comrades.

Why maternity and mental health coverage may decide health care bill's fate
By Tami Luhby
Updated 10:23 PM ET, Wed March 22, 2017
Why maternity & mental health coverage may decide the House GOP bill's fate - CNNPolitics.com

House GOP leaders are now looking to change an Obamacare provision that guarantees all health insurers cover services such as Maternity, Mental health and Prescription drugs, in hopes of wooing conservative lawmakers to their side....
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Ivanka won't be happy about removing Maternity.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
And if the moderates bail?
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Well, you're assuming that everybody even knows what's in the bill. These are last minute changes made overnight. Almost nobody has had a chance a to read the new bill and they're voting on it tomorrow.
 
Cardinal said:
Well, you're assuming that everybody even knows what's in the bill. These are last minute changes made overnight. Almost nobody has had a chance a to read the new bill and they're voting on it tomorrow.
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Oh boy.

Wait til the GOP hears about this.

They really hate voting without knowing what's in a bill, if I recall correctly.


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It seems that now (under an 11th hour rewrite to placate the Freedom Caucus), people who are eligible for VA benefits will not be able to qualify for AHCA tax credits.

I wonder how many current and former military people are aware of this AHCA change?
 

This sure seems like a whole lot of effort just to lower the tax bills of the rich.

 
Fearandloathing said:
Good luck.
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I would rather they do it right then quick. All Obamacare-lite would do is let the democrat party off the hook. Obamacare is a disaster. As far as conservatives like myself are concerned, the real title of the bill in it's present form would be "Rinocare". It would be an improvement over Obamacare, however it would not really address the high cost of healthcare.
 

Term limits for both house of congress would fix the two dominant party system in the US. The real problem in the US is not who occupies the white house. It is the entrenched power in both houses of congress. That is also what leads to the vitriolic hatred between the two parties.
 

Like I just expressed to F&L above...the real problem is the entrenched power in both houses of congress. Congressional term limits would fix what ails our so-called two party system.
 



I will take your word for that, but since Obama and now Trump, the nukes come out of the Oval Office
 
Fearandloathing said:
I will take your word for that, but since Obama and now Trump, the nukes come out of the Oval Office
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However the 22nd amendment to the US Constitution set up term limits for presidents after president Franklin D Roosevelt was elected to 4 terms in office and died in office. If a US president violates his oath of office or commits high crimes, he/she can be impeached by the house of representatives and if convicted by the senate, thrown out of office.
 
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