Congressman Murtha has said the U.S. Military is broken. Do you believe that?

[teacher]

It would be an outrage for the Republicans to attack this guy since he's a war veteran after all but after awhile it starts to become acceptable.

So because of this guys military record he gets carte Blanche forever? War veterens get to say stupid shi*t forever and ever without rebuttal? What the fuc*k kind of stupid bullshit is that? Is that a typo? Are you drunk? Are you hiding behind his record so as to not deal with his words? Did an evil monkey gain control of your keyboard when you weren't looking? God what a stupid statement. That sucks. Fortunately I've a prepared "That sucks so much" post that I use for just such occasions of sucking badly. I think I can get away with posting that one up here. Enjoy. God what a suck ass statement.

Generic suck post reply #1.

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[FinnMacCool]

I deleted all of Teacher's silly statements so they don't distract me.

So because of this guys military record he gets carte Blanche forever?

What happened to that woman that did try to attack Murtha? She was booed off yes? The point is that its dangerous politically to attack a war veteran and so finding a way to get people to forget that is good for them.

 

[Inuyasha]

Weather we agree or not Jack Murtha has, like any other person, the right to change his mind. Especially if after more than two years he sees things in a different light.

As a politician representing a district, even if he disagrees, he has the obligation to represent the majority opinion of his constituents. Does anyone know with proof that is district is in favor of the conflict in the majority.

Many here express very patriotic ideas and there's nothing wrong with that. It's part of the glue that keeps a nation together. However many push the envelop into the area of nationalism and that is usually emotion based with little real empirical evidence to support it. When one is blinded by their own preferred ideology. their contribution to the whole of the society drops dramatically because they begin to express maninly emotions which usually have little or no basis in fact.

 

[teacher]

I deleted all of Teacher's silly statements so they don't distract me.

We can't be having you distracted.

What happened to that woman that did try to attack Murtha? She was booed off yes? The point is that its dangerous politically to attack a war veteran and so finding a way to get people to forget that is good for them.

I did not see that. Maybe she was a dick and deserved it. The last to speak on the Republican side on the night of the pull out resolution vote was a Texas congressman who was also a war hero. He ripped Murtha a new one. He wasn't booed. So what's your damn point there anyway? Because one person was booed your whole argument is valid?

It would be an outrage for the Republicans to attack this guy since he's a war veteran after all but after awhile it starts to become acceptable.

Does Murtha deserved carte Blanche because he's a war veteran? Is he now surrounded by some Harry Potter aura of Republican anti-suck repellant? Are logical rebuttals to his statements deflected by his military medals? Should John McCain's statements be unrebutted by Democrates because he also is a war veteran? Put aside all the bullshit. Stick to your statement. Should Murtha get a pass? Don't get distracted.

You posted it, not me. Defend it.

 

[FinnMacCool]

did not see that. Maybe she was a dick and deserved it. The last to speak on the Republican side on the night of the pull out resolution vote was a Texas congressman who was also a war hero.

Do you have a link to that? Its not that I don't believe you but I haven't seen it.

He ripped Murtha a new one. He wasn't booed. So what's your damn point there anyway? Because one person was booed your whole argument is valid?

no. look back at my last post.

Does Murtha deserved carte Blanche because he's a war veteran? Is he now surrounded by some Harry Potter aura of Republican anti-suck repellant? Are logical rebuttals to his statements deflected by his military medals? Should John McCain's statements be unrebutted by Democrates because he also is a war veteran? Put aside all the bullshit. Stick to your statement. Should Murtha get a pass? Don't get distracted

No. He shouldn't. But thats not gonna help you very much is it?

 

[hipsterdufus]

UGH! This poll, again, is based on FALSE PRETENSE. Jack Murtha NEVER said the military is broken! It is a complete untruth.

Here is what he said direct from his congressional website. This is his official press release:


Source: http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/pa12_murtha/pr051117iraq.html

The wording of the poll is inaccurate, it's not true. This poll should be shut down and this thread should be closed.

I thought that when someone quotes a public figure in a post they're also supposed to post a source that shows the exact quote? I note that nothing was provided and that Jack Murtha was slandered.

BINGO! It's another "Do you still beat your wife - yes or no - poll"
Put up a strwman - then knock the strawman down. It's the same as the "immediate withdrawal" charge levied against Murtha. He never called for that.


Are we overextended? - yes
Is the military's presence in Iraq a main cause for violence? - yes
Are recruiting standards being lowered - yes
Has prisoner abuse been properly addressed ? - no
Has the military done everything in Iraq that they have been asked to do - yes

 

[Lantzolot]

We are still have the most powerful military and it is still capable of performing its job. Congressman Murtha also forgot to mention that many people who fought in Iraq are signing on again, my brother being one of them. He has been in 6 years and signed on for 3 more.

 

[Inuyasha]

We are still have the most powerful military and it is still capable of performing its job.

That is good to hear. I assume you have served in other nations' military so that you have absolute proof that we have the most powerful military in the world. many specialist have assigned that particular fact to the Chinese military. Now how's all that possible?

 

[teacher]

Do you have a link to that? Its not that I don't believe you but I haven't seen it.

Nope, saw it on CSPAN the night of the vote.

Oh my, what a tangled web we weave.

Class in session.

But thats not gonna help you very much is it?

What's that supposed to mean? I'm not looking to belittle your entire argument and persona. Trying to paint me as an evil Republican with a conservative axe to grind? Oh, for shame. I just enjoy finding suck statements by people and going for the throat. I just wanted to know if you truley believed...

It would be an outrage for the Republicans to attack this guy since he's a war veteran after all but after awhile it starts to become acceptable.

that. But now I'm confused. Why, after posting that, when I asked you...

Does Murtha deserved carte Blanche because he's a war veteran?

did you answer?

No. He shouldn't.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but, it looks like on one hand you state Murtha should not be attacked, while on the other you say he shouldn't get a pass. Do you see where I'm confused? This would not be a case of a liberal trying to make Republicans look bad, but then through deductive reasoning, logic, and salient questioning getting caught in the trap of their own conflicting statements, would it?

Class dismissed.

 

[teacher]

That is good to hear. I assume you have served in other nations' military so that you have absolute proof that we have the most powerful military in the world. many specialist have assigned that particular fact to the Chinese military. Now how's all that possible?

You're friggin kidding right?

 

[FinnMacCool]

What's that supposed to mean? I'm not looking to belittle your entire argument and persona. Trying to paint me as an evil Republican with a conservative axe to grind? Oh, for shame. I just enjoy finding suck statements by people and going for the throat. I just wanted to know if you truley believed...

no. . .you just keep saying things that aren't true.

that. But now I'm confused. Why, after posting that, when I asked you...

I'm not gonna keep repeating myself. This is already turning pretty redundant.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but, it looks like on one hand you state Murtha should not be attacked, while on the other you say he shouldn't get a pass. Do you see where I'm confused? This would not be a case of a liberal trying to make Republicans look bad, but then through deductive reasoning, logic, and salient questioning getting caught in the trap of their own conflicting statements, would it

Thats because you obviously haven't read from what angle I've been arguing for this whole time. Go back and read some of my previous posts.

 

[Inuyasha]

You're friggin kidding right?

You're from NYC, right? You answer a question with a question. Good tactic but it still tells me nothing.

 

[teacher]

no. . .you just keep saying things that aren't true.



I'm not gonna keep repeating myself. This is already turning pretty redundant.



Thats because you obviously haven't read from what angle I've been arguing for this whole time. Go back and read some of my previous posts.

Will do. Hey, I asked didn't I? Damn, now I gotta read. Which, thankfully, one doesn't need pants to do. Otherwise I'd say screw it.

 

[scottyz]

Weather we agree or not Jack Murtha has, like any other person, the right to change his mind. Especially if after more than two years he sees things in a different light.

Murtha has supported this for two years and he now feels differently. It's not like he hasn't given Team Bush a chance to get things right. Senator Hagel, who is also a VietNam vet feels that we should withdraw from Iraq too...

 

[Navy Pride]

:rofl That's complete BS. Because he has changed his mind about a war that you support he is now a liberal dove?

Maybe his 30 years of military experience, discussion with soldiers in Iraq and the military have convinced him we can't achieve a clear cut victory in Iraq, ever thought of that?

Well the soldiers that I talk to at Fort Lewis in the Stryker division coming back from Iraq think they are doing and outstanding job and they don't think their broke so if Murtha thinks that then he has no clue what he is talking about.....

But I should cut and paste this....No one is criticizing Murtha's military career, he is either being swayed by the left winger Pelosi or has lost touch with the situation........I will Believe Leiberman, he has been there 4 times in the last 17 months so he should know what is going on............

 

[Navy Pride]

9 to 3 saying Murtha is wrong and our military is not broke.......I imagine a lot of the libs are afraid to vote.........

 

[Inuyasha]

But I should cut and paste this....No one is criticizing Murtha's military career, he is either being swayed by the left winger Pelosi or has lost touch with the situation........I will Believe Leiberman, he has been there 4 times in the last 17 months so he should know what is going on............

Are you saying that suddenly Murtha can't think for himself?

 

[26 X World Champs]

Are you saying that suddenly Murtha can't think for himself?

I believe he's unable to comprehend that someone could examine the situation and reach a conclusion that he cannot fathom.

It's easier to belittle him than it is to prove, with facts, that Murtha is wrong. I mean, why bother with an intellectual argument based in truth and facts when you can write one inane sentence stating that Murtha must have lost his sanity!

 

[Navy Pride]

Are you saying that suddenly Murtha can't think for himself?

I don't know.Maybe he caved to the leader in the house...........It would not be the first time a democrat did that.......

 

[Inuyasha]

I don't know.Maybe he caved to the leader in the house...........It would not be the first time a democrat did that.......

Then again it could be something within his own constituancy. Does any have any information in how his constituancy is reactinr since his speech?

 

[Conflict]

You're friggin kidding right?

Hey, Cupcake... guess what...

A number of countries could launch an offensive on our soil at any given time and be successful. WHy? Because morons like you believe that securing the richest oil state in the world is beyond our national security. If CHINA were to attack us right now we would likely become the United States of China.

Kidding? I wish. Get a grip.

 

[Conflict]

You are wrong and so is Murtha..........We have the best military in the world and its doing and outstanding job in Iraq.........Just because the left wing media won't report the good things happening there does not mean its not so..........

Oh you're right. The American people shouldn't know how many of OUR people have died in Iraq. As a matter of fact how dare anyone expect the American People to care about the deaths of our soldiers! WOOPS. And.... you... support our troops? ...... WOW.

 

[Pacridge]

Hey, Cupcake... guess what...

A number of countries could launch an offensive on our soil at any given time and be successful. WHy? Because morons like you believe that securing the richest oil state in the world is beyond our national security. If CHINA were to attack us right now we would likely become the United States of China.

Kidding? I wish. Get a grip.

We ask that you refer to other members by their chosen name, not nick names you make up for them.

We also ask that you not call other members names, such as moron.

Thanks.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A number of countries could launch an offensive on our soil at any given time and be successful.. If CHINA were to attack us right now we would likely become the United States of China.

How, exactly, could China (or anyone else) attack us to the degree you mention above?

Who, besides China, has the ability to 'launch an offensive on our soil'?