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Common Sense...

Is it more common sense to be a Conservative or a Liberal?

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    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • Liberal

    Votes: 7 50.0%

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    Votes: 3 21.4%
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Is it more common sense to be a Conservative or a Liberal?
 
Common sense is something that is commonly known by a large majority. Considering that politics divides us roughly around 50% or even less, there is no real ground for anything to be common sense.
 
There's no such thing as a "common sense" political ideology. Anyone tells you different is trying to sell you something.
 
In my opinion, being a Conservative is more common sense. Just list the issues and you will see which is more common sense...
 
"Common sense" often has little to do with what's right.
"Common sense" is akin to "folk wisdom"; it's simply what the majority of common folk believe at any given time in history.
In my opinion, it need not necessarily have any part in dictating public policy.
F'rinstance, before the civil rights movement of the late 1960s, common sense held that the black race was inferior to the white race, and that segregation and unequal treatment were justified.
I think liberals are the more progressive party, and I think "progress" is sometimes at odds with what the majority hold at any given time to be "common sense".
In retrospect, however, according to the "common sense" of later generations, liberalism and progress are almost invariably correct. History is full of this. It invariably vindicates progressives and their policies, even ones that were not popularly accepted at the time they were being instituted.
 
I think of the term "liberal" as being more progressive, contary to conservatism . . . that to me is common sense.
 
Makhno said:
I think of the term "liberal" as being more progressive, contary to conservatism . . . that to me is common sense.
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To me, too... but to conservatives, "tradition" is common sense.
Nevertheless, it is the progressives who are vindicated by history.
It is the progressives who always turn out to have been right, in retrospect.
 
1069 said:
To me, too... but to conservatives, "tradition" is common sense.
Nevertheless, it is the progressives who are vindicated by history.
It is the progressives who always turn out to have been right, in retrospect.
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Not always 1069. Some progressives said that by the year 2000 the entire human race would have flying cars. We were kinda wrong about that but outside of that....yeah we got everything else. :cool:
 
I would dare to say both parties use common sense but the Democratic Party uses emotions to over ride common sense... examples are social security reform, common sense is that there is a high percentage of old people that vote so if you scare them you can own the agenda; if you are black and poor or black and know someone who is black and poor it is common sense that the DP will send more money your way; if you are a trial lawyer, environmentalist, union worker or anti war it is common sense that it would be poor use of common sense to vote for the RP. You just might be a democrat if you want the government to give you something.

To be clear the left is based solely on emotion and use emotion to drive their agenda of leading America on the emotions of hundreds of splinter groups emotions. On the other hand people who can set emotions aside enough to see through the emotion magnet of the Robin Hood Democratic Party and apply reason and logic vote using common sense for Republican agenda.
 
Its common sense to be liberal if you have common sense.
If you don't well...in that case you'll probably end up a conservative.
 
I count 6 uses of the word "emotion" in the immediately above(oops, I mean Topsez's second paragraph) paragraph, but no proof.

Substantiate your claim.
 
Thelost1 said:
I count 6 uses of the word "emotion" in the immediately above(oops, I mean Topsez's second paragraph) paragraph, but no proof.

Substantiate your claim.
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Your common sense may be based on emotion if you worry about the prez listening to your phone call with OBL if you are not a terrorist... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you worry about the government looking at your library checkout record unless you are a terrorist... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think the government can spend your money better than you can... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think when the DP recommends redeployment of troops to speed America to victory in Iraq... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think the DP can take more money from the very rich and make your life better... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think American exported drugs to Canada should be reimported to America... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think only Republican Party takes money from big oil... your common sense may be based on emotion if you think America went to war with Iraq to steal oil or to make Haliburten rich... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think Bush is stupid but smart enough to fool Democratic senators and congressmen...
 
Topsez said:
Your common sense may be based on emotion if you worry about the prez listening to your phone call with OBL if you are not a terrorist... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you worry about the government looking at your library checkout record unless you are a terrorist... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think the government can spend your money better than you can... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think when the DP recommends redeployment of troops to speed America to victory in Iraq... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think the DP can take more money from the very rich and make your life better... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think American exported drugs to Canada should be reimported to America... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think only Republican Party takes money from big oil... your common sense may be based on emotion if you think America went to war with Iraq to steal oil or to make Haliburten rich... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think Bush is stupid but smart enough to fool Democratic senators and congressmen...
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As opposed to conservative "common sense", which dictates that if gays are allowed to marry, it will somehow magically destroy your heterosexual marriage, etc.
:roll:
 
Next to terrorism radical Liberalism is the greatest problem this country faces...
 
Navy Pride said:
I know, if it quaks like a duck, walks like a duck then its usually a duck..........
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Yes a few crazy liberals can be compared to those conservative pastors who lead churches with up to 30 million members and pretty much tell them how to vote. :roll:

Benny Hinn is less dangerous then Cindy Sheehan? I dont think so.
 
Hatuey said:
Yes a few crazy liberals can be compared to those conservative pastors who lead churches with up to 30 million members and pretty much tell them how to vote. :roll:

Benny Hinn is less dangerous then Cindy Sheehan? I dont think so.
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If your talking about me I vote for a Liberal Congressman in my district by the name of Norm Dicks who is a democrat and a liberal becasue like another liberal Joe Leiberman he is strong on national defense.....:confused:
 
Navy Pride said:
If your talking about me I vote for a Liberal Congressman in my district by the name of Norm Dicks who is a democrat and a liberal becasue like another liberal Joe Leiberman he is strong on national defense.....:confused:
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Did I mention Navy Pride in the post you're refering to? :confused: . Then Obviously I wasnt talking about you. :2wave: . Have a nice day now.
 
Navy Pride said:
Next to terrorism radical Liberalism is the greatest problem this country faces...
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Extremism in any form is the greatest problem this country faces. :2wave:
 
IMO, it is impossible to connect a political ideology with common sense. Common sense comes in two forms. Objective and subjective. Objective common sense is usually centered around common safety or common knowledge. For example, it is common sense to not walk in front of a car if you don't want to get hit. It is common sense that if you want a job, apply for one you are qualified to have. These are objective examples. Subjectively, common sense is individualisitc. For a conservative, it may be common sense that when threatened, a military solution is the answer. For a liberal, a diplomatic solution may be the answer in the same scenerio. Which is common sense? Depends on your subjective viewpoint.

Topsez said:
Your common sense may be based on emotion if you worry about the prez listening to your phone call with OBL if you are not a terrorist... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you worry about the government looking at your library checkout record unless you are a terrorist... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think the government can spend your money better than you can... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think when the DP recommends redeployment of troops to speed America to victory in Iraq... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think the DP can take more money from the very rich and make your life better... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think American exported drugs to Canada should be reimported to America... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think only Republican Party takes money from big oil... your common sense may be based on emotion if you think America went to war with Iraq to steal oil or to make Haliburten rich... Your common sense may be based on emotion if you think Bush is stupid but smart enough to fool Democratic senators and congressmen...
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It would be way, WAY too easy to reverse each of these examples and show the emotion in the conservative reciprocity of them. I'll leave that for one with more time (it's getting late, here). Point is, emotion fuels positions and subjective common sense on both sides.
 
1069 said:
As opposed to conservative "common sense", which dictates that if gays are allowed to marry, it will somehow magically destroy your heterosexual marriage, etc.
:roll:
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Guess you noticed my new mood?:2razz:

CaptainCourtesy said:
IMO, it is impossible to connect a political ideology with common sense. Common sense comes in two forms. Objective and subjective. Objective common sense is usually centered around common safety or common knowledge. For example, it is common sense to not walk in front of a car if you don't want to get hit. It is common sense that if you want a job, apply for one you are qualified to have. These are objective examples. Subjectively, common sense is individualisitc. For a conservative, it may be common sense that when threatened, a military solution is the answer. For a liberal, a diplomatic solution may be the answer in the same scenerio. Which is common sense? Depends on your subjective viewpoint.
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Viva la difference! The balance therein is what makes America great and checks extremes not to mention providing forums like this to understand each other.

It would be way, WAY too easy to reverse each of these examples and show the emotion in the conservative reciprocity of them. I'll leave that for one with more time (it's getting late, here). Point is, emotion fuels positions and subjective common sense on both sides.
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So what you're saying is being liberal leader is like herding cats and being a conservative leader is like pushing a wheelbarrow full of frogs...;)
 
Topsez said:
Viva la difference! The balance therein is what makes America great and checks extremes not to mention providing forums like this to understand each other.
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Agree completely. Differences of opinion and accptance of those differences prevent extremism from getting out of control.

So what you're saying is being liberal leader is like herding cats and being a conservative leader is like pushing a wheelbarrow full of frogs...;)
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Good one...:2razz: Seriously, though, I get your analogy/metaphor. Very sharp. :mrgreen:
 
RightOfCenter said:
Way to stay on topic NP, that's what I've always admired about you.
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Just responding to this comment by 1069....Sorry you could not make the connection......

As opposed to conservative "common sense", which dictates that if gays are allowed to marry, it will somehow magically destroy your heterosexual marriage, etc.
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