Phil_Osophy
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Sorry...but you are wrong. If you open your doors to the public as a business you have to comply with the Constitution and anti-discrimination laws. You might wish it were different....I'm sure that the bigoted restaurant owners that didn't want to serve blacks also wished it were different...but unfortunately for you and your ilk.....it isn't. Bigots cannot hide behind their religion as a shield to circumvent the law....so sorry.
Well let us look at it from this perspective. Had this been an interracial couple and the baker had denied them a wedding cake because he religiously felt that he could not support interracial marriages, would you have supported that as legitimate free exercise of religion?
Someone please explain what makes you entitled to another persons business.
That is a lie! To not allow a person to live their life in harmony with their moral conscience is denying them the right to live their faith. By forcing them to partake and create things that will be part of something they are morally against is a violation of their religious rights.
Under your rules, any man/woman of moral uprightness, can not deny any order for a cake even though it goes against their beliefs. When someone creates something it is a piece of art and the artist's signature is in the name of the bakery that created the piece of work. If someone came into a bakery wanting to have a cake made in the form of an erected penis, or a boob cake, or cats licking a vagina, under your rules they have no right to deny anyone of what they want because it is discrimination while their artistic signature is in the name of the bakery that is forced to create it. This is forcing the witness of the man and his faith to be violated. Shame on you or anyone else that has encouraged this to happen. Shameful.
Listen, it is not an interracial couple, it is not a man with his dog, it is not any of these things being brought up. It is two gay men asking for a wedding cake and the owner declined because he said his religion precluded him from getting involved in Gay marriage. So they should simply respect that and go elsewhere. Thankfully, not all Gays are this petty.
Being full of **** and not being able to discern the consequences of laws passed is truly devastating for the rest of us. Because you were so willing to open the door, over emotion or some political correct thinking, you have paved the way for just about anything to be seen as a discrimination in regard to business owners and how they treat their customers. If a business owner denies a gay couple a friggin wedding cake on moral conscience, then the asshole that wants a erected penis on his cake has the same rights to file discrimination against anyone who does not want to provide him/her with what they want. Period.
Huh? I'm now against interracial marriage? Leftists have the attention span of a gnat.Again I'm not comparing slavery I'm comparing the discrimination. The causes are different but he discrimination is relatable whether you like it or not.you are just like those that were against interracial marriage. Both are archaic.
So since you are for discrimination you must be for gun free zones right?
Listen, it is not an interracial couple, it is not a man with his dog, it is not any of these things being brought up. It is two gay men asking for a wedding cake and the owner declined because he said his religion precluded him from getting involved in Gay marriage. So they should simply respect that and go elsewhere. Thankfully, not all Gays are this petty.
Glad to see you are also for discrimation against an interracial couple. Because your comment applies to them as well. We have learned LOADS about what you believe, thank you for also being FOR interracial discrimination as well.
I support the rights of private businesses. If a business wants to be a gun free zone, thats fine. I just wont spend my money there. I dont see whats so hard about that. And im not "for discrimination", im just not for the idea that you are entitled to another persons property
So in your realm of thinking....blacks should have "respected" the bigoted white restaurant owners "right" not to serve them. It was "petty" for them to stand up against discrimination. They simply should have moved on to the next lunch counter or drinking fountain.
Wow...I'm glad most people in this country have moved beyond this way of thinking.....
What makes you or anyone else entitled to another persons private property?
Huh? I'm now against interracial marriage? Leftists have the attention span of a gnat.
Where did i ever say that?
If you are going to create opinions you should then debate them as well. Maybe you can find a nice quiet place somewhere.
Sure you are for discrimination against blacks, interracial couples or whatever. You have shown your support for it.
The he you refer to is a "she". And because I brought up pediphiles in the same sentence with homosexuals and incest you find that offensive because you are gay.
That is EXACTLY what you are saying. You are saying that it is "petty" for people to stand up against discrimination...they should respect the rights of the bigots to be bigoted and simply move on to the next business.
Like I said....I'm glad most people in this country have moved beyond this way of thinking....you obviously haven't.
When a person decides to open a buisness they agree to certain rules. No one forces them to open to the public.
Next you'll be complaining about not being allowed to used child labor like 5 year olds because that is forcing the owner on who they can hire.
I have shown support for discrimination against Blacks, interracial marriage and the mysterious "whatever"?
Do you have any evidence to support this ludicrous conclusion or is just another left wing hallucinogenic fantasy?
Look at your own quotes. This is exactly what you are saying...either that...or you are completely inconsistent. You have said numerous times that there is a right to discriminate over and over and over. Read your own posts.I have shown support for discrimination against Blacks, interracial marriage and the mysterious "whatever"?
Do you have any evidence to support this ludicrous conclusion or is just another left wing hallucinogenic fantasy?
How about you try answering the question this time. WHAT MAKES YOU ENTITLED TO ANOTHER PERSONS PRIVATE PROPERTY?
And the absurdum at the end isnt even worth replying to.
Wow! This "bigot" word really flies around freely. I suppose that makes it easier than trying to say anything that resembles some sort of sensible debate.
I find that offensive and I'm not gay.
To compare 2 consenting adults and what they do in private (which is not even any different than many straight couples do) to taking advantage of children sexually? And often damaging them for the rest of their lives?
Do you consider comparing straight couples to pedophiles an insult? It's the same type of comparison.
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