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Cold, Snow in Parts of Southern California

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Cold, Snow in Parts of Southern California
LOS ANGELES, January 12, 2007 - A cold snap hit the Southland amid forecasts of record or near-record low temperatures Friday and Saturday night in metropolitan, coastal and valley areas of Los Angeles County.

Post-midnight lows early Friday included 16 in Woodland Hills and 8 in some mountain areas of Los Angeles County, including Warm Springs and Sandberg.
The National Weather Service issued a Freeze Warning, effective from 1 a.m. Saturday until 9 a.m. Sunday, for the Santa Monica Recreational Area and the San Fernando, San Gabriel and Santa Clarita valleys -- areas where a "hard freeze" was expected .

A Freeze Warning is issued when temperatures are expected to dip to 28 degrees or lower for a period of two hours or more.

NWS forecasters said near-record low temperatures are possible Friday and Saturday night in downtown Los Angeles and other metropolitan and coastal areas of the city, and record lows are possible in the San Fernando and San Gabriel valleys. The forecast for the Antelope Valley was for record or near- record lows.
abc7.com: Cold, Snow in Parts of Southern California


gotta love that global warming :rofl

I am not saying there isn't a change going on with the climate on earth....just that man is not causing it........
 
10 degrees here with a chill factor of 0 last night.......Damn Global warming.........:rofl
 
We got our first snow of the season on January 8th, and that was just a dusting from a quick lake effect snow squall....it was gone in 2 hours. I've never seen such a warm fall/early winter in my life, and we haven't had a season without snow before January 1st in 127 years.

I don't mind, I hate the cold. But it's not normal.

I hope all of the people who always gloat about the nice weather in Southern California are enjoying "our" snow! I'm enjoying their weather. Seventy degrees in upstate NY in January? I'll take it. :mrgreen:
 
abc7.com: Cold, Snow in Parts of Southern California


gotta love that global warming :rofl

I am not saying there isn't a change going on with the climate on earth....just that man is not causing it........

Your incredible knowledge of global warming and of what is and isn't normal in weather paterns is amazing.

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Snow in winter in a city like Montreal = Normal.

No snow in winter in a city like Montreal = Not Normal.

Understand? What exacly is normal to you about record low/high temperatures?
 
I love posting this.

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^^^1. Massive melting

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Deep ice tells long climate story

Of these activities fossil fuel combustion for energy generation causes about 70-75% of the carbon dioxide emissions, being the main source of carbon dioxide emissions.

Carbon dioxide

Carbon dioxide output, caused by humans burning fossil fuels, have drastically raised in recent years, as shown by the graph and two quotes.

Increased levels of carbon dioxide will increase the capture of heat in its absorption band to some, perhaps significant, extent. The result of this is that less heat is lost to space from the Earth's lower atmosphere, and temperatures at the Earth's surface are therefore likely to increase.

Global Warming - science

Greenhouse gas emissions from industry, transportation and agriculture have played a major role in the recently observed global warming.

Greenhouse gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Greenhouse gases directly affect global warming, and with a higher amount of greenhouse gases, the earth is getting warmer.

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People can be pretty ignorant when it comes to global warming. They will point out a couple of local weather patterns, then make the claim that global warming does not exist. Global warming of course, must take the entire earth into account, and if you take the AVERAGES of temperatures over the ENTIRE earth, you can plainly see that global warming, in fact, IS happening.

Here is a good analogy, which will explain how the minds of global warming naysayers work.

Fact 1 - There is a claim of mob activity in the United States, which is supported by just about all reputable prosecutors (those which have no ties to the mob itself).

Fact 2 - There is no mob activity in Bugtussle, Texas (population 20 - 28 before Jed Clampett left with his family for Bevery Hills).

Conclusion - The claim of mob activity in the United States is false, and was created by alarmists who have a political agenda. There is no mob, and never was. Furthermore, we will prove our point by publishing testimony from a prosecutor (who is receiving bribes from Vito Corleone).
 
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All 20 people on Bugtussle are snowed in today. :2wave:
 
Did anyone even look at my post on the first page, because it proved global warming is being caused by man.

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^^^1. Massive melting

Thanks danarhea, it's nice to see a conservative who doesn't deny global warming.
 
Not in SanDiego.

I was driving at about 1am Saturday morning (coming home from an amazing Incubus concert) and my temperature in my truck said it was 38 degrees outside. This was right outside of downtown San Diego.

On a side note, I remember it snowed in Long Beach (between L.A. and Orange County) when I was in 4th grade. The snow didn't stay on the ground but the teachers let us all out to see the snow because it was the first time it snowed in Long Beach in like 50 years.
 
Did anyone even look at my post on the first page, because it proved global warming is being caused by man.

1000yr_change.jpg


^^^1. Massive melting

Thanks danarhea, it's nice to see a conservative who doesn't deny global warming.

Global warming IS a concern of traditional conservatives, who see the earth as God's creation, and something not to be crapped on, but taken care of. According to traditional Conservatives, we are God's caretakers of the earth. BTW, who created the EPA? It was Richard Nixon.

However, you make a point when you accuse Conservatives of forsaking conservation, but I must reply with a question: Since when were the Neocons Conservative? They are not, never were, and never will be.
 
I wish we could get some of that global warming here.......We have snow 3 times in the last week (that is more then we usually get in a whole winter) and are expecting more tonight......we have had record low temperatures the last 10 days...........

Please bring on some global warning...I am freezing my butt off........;)
 
Did anyone even look at my post on the first page, because it proved global warming is being caused by man.



^^^1. Massive melting

Thanks danarhea, it's nice to see a conservative who doesn't deny global warming.

1000 years is hardly conclusive evidence on a world 6 billion years old (or whatever the scientists claim now)

sounds like trying to argue how large my member is by the size of a single pubic hair, and whether it is growing or shrinkage
 
1000 years is hardly conclusive evidence on a world 6 billion years old (or whatever the scientists claim now)

Do you have any evidence to back your claim up? Also, can you explain the proportion between increased CO2 levels and temperature as natural?

1000yr_change.jpg


^^^1. Massive melting

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Deep ice tells long climate story

Of these activities fossil fuel combustion for energy generation causes about 70-75% of the carbon dioxide emissions, being the main source of carbon dioxide emissions.

Carbon dioxide

Carbon dioxide output, caused by humans burning fossil fuels, have drastically raised in recent years, as shown by the graph and two quotes.

Increased levels of carbon dioxide will increase the capture of heat in its absorption band to some, perhaps significant, extent. The result of this is that less heat is lost to space from the Earth's lower atmosphere, and temperatures at the Earth's surface are therefore likely to increase.

Global Warming - science

Greenhouse gas emissions from industry, transportation and agriculture have played a major role in the recently observed global warming.

Greenhouse gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Greenhouse gases directly affect global warming, and with a higher amount of greenhouse gases, the earth is getting warmer.

DeeJayH said:
sounds like trying to argue how large my member is by the size of a single pubic hair, and whether it is growing or shrinkage

No actually it's nothing like that.
 
Do you have any evidence to back your claim up? Also, can you explain the proportion between increased CO2 levels and temperature as natural?

No actually it's nothing like that.
actually I do, its called common sense
1000 years is but a teeny tiny fraction of 6 billion years
and while 800,000 years is substantially larger
it is also hugely less than 1% of the life of the planet
which hardly makes it a substantive sample with which to make comparisons, much less conclusions
no more worthy of concern than the little ice age from just a few decades ago
 
actually I do, its called common sense

AKA assumptions. I'll take that as a no.

DeeJayH said:
1000 years is but a teeny tiny fraction of 6 billion years
and while 800,000 years is substantially larger
it is also hugely less than 1% of the life of the planet
which hardly makes it a substantive sample with which to make comparisons, much less conclusions
no more worthy of concern than the little ice age from just a few decades ago

Ok I see you won't be convinced that anything is wrong. But what's the point of denying it? I don't see what your argument's benefits are. We're going to run out of fossil fuels eventually anyway so why not switch to an alternative energy source? Nuclear energy, for example. If you'd like I'll write the benefits of it again but it's on two threads in the environment section if you want to save me the trouble. We won't be dependent on oil and the environment will be much cleaner.
 
actually I do, its called common sense
1000 years is but a teeny tiny fraction of 6 billion years
and while 800,000 years is substantially larger
it is also hugely less than 1% of the life of the planet
which hardly makes it a substantive sample with which to make comparisons, much less conclusions
no more worthy of concern than the little ice age from just a few decades ago
Your common sense seems completely oblivious to the realities.
Only not so long ago there were also ppl with the common sense that humans and the earth were created literally within 7 days and that the earth is no more than a few thousand years old.
Longer ago ppl believed the common sense that the earth was flat.
Your "common sense" lacks in substance and reality.
 
AKA assumptions. I'll take that as a no.



Ok I see you won't be convinced that anything is wrong. But what's the point of denying it? I don't see what your argument's benefits are. We're going to run out of fossil fuels eventually anyway so why not switch to an alternative energy source? Nuclear energy, for example. If you'd like I'll write the benefits of it again but it's on two threads in the environment section if you want to save me the trouble. We won't be dependent on oil and the environment will be much cleaner.
I am all for alternative energy sources
but it has nothing to do with global warming
 
jfuh said:
Longer ago ppl believed the common sense that the earth was flat.

Yeah, you're right... there was a scientific consensus that the earth was flat, just like there's a 'scientific consensus' today that man is heating up the world.
 
Yeah, you're right... there was a scientific consensus that the earth was flat, just like there's a 'scientific consensus' today that man is heating up the world.

Flat earth was not a scientific consensus, but a wives tale that people at the time happened to believe. It was not supported by any scientific observation whatsoever (just like intelligent design, and anti global warming). It was science that proved it wrong. It is also science which proves (with evidence, I might add), that global warming is a real event.

Do you believe the earth is flat?
 
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