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Coincidence, or Calculated- Why is Migration Hypocrisy so Common Amongst Israel Supporters?

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2019, the Times of Israel-

"Jewish Vocational Services (JVS), a resettlement agency, joined with three synagogues to put on the party each January for the Christian and Muslim refugees resettled in the near-geographic center of the continental United States."

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/kansa...gees-by-celebrating-their-american-birthdays/

Now contrast American synagogues and charities hospitality towards illegal African migrants in the USA, with how that same demographic is treated in Israel.

2018, BBC News-

"A spokesperson for Israel's Population and Immigration Authority told the BBC there were currently 38,000 "infiltrators" in Israel, of whom just 1,420 were being held in detention facilities.

Israel uses the term "infiltrators" to describe people who did not enter the country through an official border crossing.

Many of the migrants - who are mostly from Eritrea and Sudan - say they came to Israel to seek asylum after fleeing persecution and conflict, but the authorities regard them as economic migrants."



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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42541515

Is there really such a wide difference between American Jews and Israeli Jews on the issue of undocumented migration, or is something else at play? There doesn't appear to be much of a difference between American & Israeli Jews on many political issues. Most of Israels supporters on this site, some of them Jewish, wholeheartedly support Israel's mistreatment of black migrants, while they'd never dream of using such standards for the United States.
 

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I don't see anything hypocritical about it. :shrug:

1: Israel is a hell of a lot smaller than the US. IE: The US can house and help more people.

2: By helping them get into the US that means less are going to try to go to Israel, which is much smaller.
 

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Maybe, just maybe, Jews aren't a monolithic, conspiratorial cabal cooperating in perfect synchronisation, but actually individuals with different values.

Also, what makes you think the people settling in America entered illegally?
 

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Maybe, just maybe, Jews aren't a monolithic, conspiratorial cabal cooperating in perfect synchronisation, but actually individuals with different values.

Also, what makes you think the people settling in America entered illegally?

Nah, too easy.....I think it's important to remember here that there is no anti-Semitism on the right.
 

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Jews in Israel tend to be A LOT more conservative than jews in the US. There has actually been quite a divide between liberal US jewish community, which is largely found in hollywood, and the israeli jewish citizens. It has nothing to do with conspiracy, because you ask any likud/right wing voter in israel, they'll tell you that many american jews are self-loathing antisemites.


That being said, it does exist that some American-liberal jews will be pro-amnesty and 'human rights', globalist and everything inside the US, and the minute they get off the plane in tel aviv, they'll be more conservative than Rush Limbaugh. This is hypocrisy and should be called out. I have no sympathy for the "Jake Tapper" Jews.
 
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I don't see anything hypocritical about it. :shrug:

1: Israel is a hell of a lot smaller than the US. IE: The US can house and help more people.

Israel isn't trying to stay small Kal. They offer financial incentives for Jews from around the world to move there, as well as offering government subsidies to women who give birth, but only if they're Jewish. Israel is actively trying to increase it's population. So the excuse that says, 'Israel is geographically small', doesn't hold water. The government incentives for women to give birth, plus strict rules about Jewish women being granted abortions, has resulted in a birth rate that is the highest in the developed world.

Israeli women give birth to 3.1 children on average, versus 1.7 for OECD countries.

So while American and European women have been driven to give up bearing children for the most part, Israeli women are procreating like no other women from developed countries.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...s-to-make-israel-unbearably-crowded-1.6914170

2: By helping them get into the US that means less are going to try to go to Israel, which is much smaller.

Yeah, but that's what people are referring to when they say American Jews have an odd set of ethics on migration issues. Why would any Americans choose to work at diverting 'undesirable' (Israel's term) migrants from entering a foreign country 7,000 miles away, instead bringing them to America? To preserve the country they don't even live in? You can see why some people view this with suspicion.
 

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Maybe, just maybe, Jews aren't a monolithic, conspiratorial cabal cooperating in perfect synchronisation, but actually individuals with different values.

Yeah, actually, no- American Jews who identify as liberal or progressive comprise about 80% of the demographic. The percentage who identify as being pro-Israel is even higher, at around 90+%.

Monolithic? About as close as any ethnic group can get.

Also, what makes you think the people settling in America entered illegally?

These groups in the USA generally don't distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, and have been responsible for popularizing the phrase 'no human is illegal' (ADL). Jewish groups have also been behind the push for so-called immigration reform, which amounts to amnesty for law breakers.
 
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Jews in Israel tend to be A LOT more conservative than jews in the US. There has actually been quite a divide between liberal US jewish community, which is largely found in hollywood, and the israeli jewish citizens. It has nothing to do with conspiracy, because you ask any likud/right wing voter in israel, they'll tell you that many american jews are self-loathing antisemites.


That being said, it does exist that some American-liberal jews will be pro-amnesty and 'human rights', globalist and everything inside the US, and the minute they get off the plane in tel aviv, they'll be more conservative than Rush Limbaugh. This is hypocrisy and should be called out. I have no sympathy for the "Jake Tapper" Jews.

Thanks Dark Wizard. I'd never dream of holding two different sets of standards for my country, and the country my ancestors were from. All I'm asking for is a little consistency, which you've shown in your posts.
 
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