Codename 'Apalachee': How America Spies on Europe and the UN

[Somerville]

Another fine example that shows the rational amongst us, that calling Barack Obama a secret Muslim Marxist is not connected to reality. Time and again the man shows us that he is simply continuing the policies of those who came before him in the Oval Office.

Codename 'Apalachee': How America Spies on Europe and the UN

The European Union building on New York's Third Avenue is an office tower with a glittering facade and an impressive view of the East River. Chris Matthews, the press officer for the EU delegation to the United Nations, opens the ambassadors' room on the 31st floor, gestures toward a long conference table and says: "This is where all ambassadors from our 28 members meet every Tuesday at 9 a.m." It is the place where Europe seeks to forge a common policy on the UN.
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For the National Security Agency (NSA), America's powerful intelligence organization, the move was above all a technical challenge. A new office means freshly painted walls, untouched wiring and newly installed computer networks -- in other words, loads of work for the agents. While the Europeans were still getting used to their glittering new offices, NSA staff had already acquired the building's floor plans. The drawings completed by New York real estate company Tishman Speyer show precisely to scale how the offices are laid out. Intelligence agents made enlarged copies of the areas where the data servers are located. At the NSA, the European mission near the East River is referred to by the codename "Apalachee".

Why did I write that the President is simply continuing the activities of past Presidents?

...there are other programs, like "Blarney" and "Rampart-T," that serve a different purpose: that of traditional espionage targeting foreign governments.

Blarney has existed since the 1970s and it falls under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, at least according to the NSA documents, which state that it is based on the cooperation of at least one US telecommunications company that provides services to the agency.
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No less explosive is the program dubbed "Rampart-T" by the NSA and which, by the agency's own accounts, has been running since 1991. It has to do with "penetration of hard targets at or near the leadership level" -- in other words: heads of state and their closest aides.

There's lots more at the link

 

[ttwtt78640]

Another fine example that shows the rational amongst us, that calling Barack Obama a secret Muslim Marxist is not connected to reality. Time and again the man shows us that he is simply continuing the policies of those who came before him in the Oval Office.



Why did I write that the President is simply continuing the activities of past Presidents?



There's lots more at the link

Ignorance may be bliss, but knowledge is power.

 

[j-mac]

Oh please...Like other governments don't spy within the UN...:roll: What this shows more than anything, is that the leaks by Snowden weren't in some altruistic fashion, to protect the people of the US, but rather to undermine, and embarrass the government of the US....Snowden is a traitor.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Another fine example that shows the rational amongst us, that calling Barack Obama a secret Muslim Marxist is not connected to reality. Time and again the man shows us that he is simply continuing the policies of those who came before him in the Oval Office.

Wow. B.O. is just following someone else's policies. Who'da thunk the bamster was just a puppet? Question is, whose? Bush's? I think that's highly unlikely given his administration's and his minion's virulent hatred of him. Clinton's? C'mon Bush Sr.? Reagan? Carter? Ford? Nixon? Johnson? Kennedy? ....?

Maybe Obama is the cumulative incarnation of all presidents before him? Maybe he's the "president of presidents!" To hear his sycophants, that's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Or maybe he's really more like those with whom he prefers to associate ("A man is known by the company he keeps")?
The "reverend" black Marxist Jeremiah Wright (who has publicly called on God to damn America);
The domestic terrorists and communists William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn
Communist Frank Marshall Davis
Maoist Anita Dunn
SDA, Weathermen, Weather Underground leader and domestic terrorist Jeff Jones
Black Nationalist and Communist Van Jones
.
.
.
...the list goes on and on and on...

((P.S. it's no secret what his religious and ideological bents are.))

 

[Somerville]

Wow. B.O. is just following someone else's policies. Who'da thunk the bamster was just a puppet? Question is, whose? Bush's? I think that's highly unlikely given his administration's and his minion's virulent hatred of him. Clinton's? C'mon Bush Sr.? Reagan? Carter? Ford? Nixon? Johnson? Kennedy? ....?

Maybe Obama is the cumulative incarnation of all presidents before him? Maybe he's the "president of presidents!" To hear his sycophants, that's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Or maybe he's really more like those with whom he prefers to associate ("A man is known by the company he keeps")?
The "reverend" black Marxist Jeremiah Wright (who has publicly called on God to damn America);
The domestic terrorists and communists William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn
Communist Frank Marshall Davis
Maoist Anita Dunn
SDA, Weathermen, Weather Underground leader and domestic terrorist Jeff Jones
Black Nationalist and Communist Van Jones
.
.
.
...the list goes on and on and on...

((P.S. it's no secret what his religious and ideological bents are.))

I will agree that "it's no secret what his religious and ideological bents are." I just happen to think they aren't what you think they are.

Try reading the link to Spielgel, you might notice a couple years highlighted in the quotes I provided.

I so luv me some cons who know nothing about the Rev Wright and who so readily illustrate their ignorance

and I would venture to say some readers think Ayn Rand was a great thinker but it don't make it so.

 

[EdwinWillers]

I will agree that "it's no secret what his religious and ideological bents are." I just happen to think they aren't what you think they are.

Fair enough. Anyone can be wrong. It's ok.

I so luv me some cons who know nothing about the Rev Wright and who so readily illustrate their ignorance

Oh? Well, please enlighten this "ignorant con" with some brilliant repartee about the wonderful Rev Wright. Perhaps with some beautiful spin on what he really meant when he called upon God to damn America - as good a place as any to start, wouldn't you think?

And if I'm so ignorant about the Rev Wright, perhaps you could enlighten me as well about Obama's associations with William Ayers, Berhadine Dohrn, Anita Dunn, Frank Marshall Davis, Jeff Jones, Van Jones, et. al. - given that that was my point, that such associations as these have helped to shape and define the man Obama. Unless of course by your not replying to what I said about them that you agree that these associates of his (et. al.) do in fact define him?

and I would venture to say some readers think Ayn Rand was a great thinker but it don't make it so.

Ahhh, well that was quick, reverting by way of rejoinder to an Ayn Rand snark. Lovely.

 

[cpwill]

Oh please...Like other governments don't spy within the UN...:roll: What this shows more than anything, is that the leaks by Snowden weren't in some altruistic fashion, to protect the people of the US, but rather to undermine, and embarrass the government of the US....Snowden is a traitor.

Precisely. If Snowden were out there trying to protect the American people, then that's all he would have released.

 

[apdst]

Another fine example that shows the rational amongst us, that calling Barack Obama a secret Muslim Marxist is not connected to reality. Time and again the man shows us that he is simply continuing the policies of those who came before him in the Oval Office.



Why did I write that the President is simply continuing the activities of past Presidents?



There's lots more at the link

Commies don't spie on other countries?

 

[Higgins86]

People are surprised that our imperial overlords are keeping an eye on us?

 

[Sherman123]

I don't mind in the slightest that we have a sophisticated foreign intelligence apparatus.

 

[Somerville]

Fair enough. Anyone can be wrong. It's ok.

Oh? Well, please enlighten this "ignorant con" with some brilliant repartee about the wonderful Rev Wright. Perhaps with some beautiful spin on what he really meant when he called upon God to damn America - as good a place as any to start, wouldn't you think?

And if I'm so ignorant about the Rev Wright, perhaps you could enlighten me as well about Obama's associations with William Ayers, Berhadine Dohrn, Anita Dunn, Frank Marshall Davis, Jeff Jones, Van Jones, et. al. - given that that was my point, that such associations as these have helped to shape and define the man Obama. Unless of course by your not replying to what I said about them that you agree that these associates of his (et. al.) do in fact define him?

Ahhh, well that was quick, reverting by way of rejoinder to an Ayn Rand snark. Lovely.

There is no "brilliant repartee" that can change your mind, so why should I make the effort. Your words show what you believe and as with many True Believers (tm) there is no rational means of changing those beliefs.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
—John Rogers[

 

[EdwinWillers]

There is no "brilliant repartee" that can change your mind, so why should I make the effort. Your words show what you believe and as with many True Believers (tm) there is no rational means of changing those beliefs.

Interesting how the Ayn Rand connection came from nowhere to marginally influence then utterly dominate your reply. And without my having to say a thing... And to totally avoid making even the slightest attempt to respond to my questions.

...which only means of course that you can't.

...and you know it.

:2wave:

 

[j-mac]

Interesting how the Ayn Rand connection came from nowhere to marginally influence then utterly dominate your reply. And without my having to say a thing... And to totally avoid making even the slightest attempt to respond to my questions.

...which only means of course that you can't.

...and you know it.

:2wave:

Aw damn! and he thought that was clever....:lamo

 

[Somerville]

Interesting how the Ayn Rand connection came from nowhere to marginally influence then utterly dominate your reply. And without my having to say a thing... And to totally avoid making even the slightest attempt to respond to my questions.

...which only means of course that you can't.

...and you know it.

:2wave:

As noted in your introductory notes over on that thread "Hi", it was pointed out by others that your avatar is from the cover of Ayn Rand's fantasy tale, Atlas Shrugged Use of such an image does provide a bit of insight into your thoughts.

Here are some recent words from one of those individuals you have labeled "Communist" - I'll have you do the Google to determine the author

... the reality is that we are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither the government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Aw damn! and he thought that was clever....:lamo

Even the dodge wasn't that clever.

 

[EdwinWillers]

As noted in your introductory notes over on that thread "Hi", it was pointed out by others that your avatar is from the cover of Ayn Rand's fantasy tale, Atlas Shrugged Use of such an image does provide a bit of insight into your thoughts.

You got me good there. Yes, I admit, I do like reading good fiction. :thumbs:

Here are some recent words from one of those individuals you have labeled "Communist" - I'll have you do the Google to determine the author

Awe c'mon - spare us the suspense!

 

[EdwinWillers]

I don't mind in the slightest that we have a sophisticated foreign intelligence apparatus.

Agreed - just keep it focused on "foreign."

 

[Zyphlin]

Thanks to the Obama administration and previous administrations. Our Intelligence agencies should be doing all they can to gather information on those exterior to the U.S. in the interest of the U.S. just as I expect pretty much every other country to act as well.

 

[American]

Thanks to the Obama administration and previous administrations. Our Intelligence agencies should be doing all they can to gather information on those exterior to the U.S. in the interest of the U.S. just as I expect pretty much every other country to act as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?_r=0

 

[American]

Forget about your encryption, NSA can read your ****.

 

[Zyphlin]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?_r=0

Okay, a link. Care to explain exactly what you mean regarding the link as it relates to my statement?

 

[American]

Okay, a link. Care to explain exactly what you mean regarding the link as it relates to my statement?

They are able to break encryption codes, I suppose they could use that technology to enhance intelligence gather overseas as well.

 

[j-mac]

[tongue in cheek] Boy that Snowden....What a patriot![/tongue in cheek]

 

[Zyphlin]

They are able to break encryption codes, I suppose they could use that technology to enhance intelligence gather overseas as well.

And if they're using their ability to break encryption codes as a means of gathering intelligence on foreign entities in line with furthering the security and stability of the United Staets and it's interests, I've got little issue with it. External spying isn't generally something I get bothered by regardless of whose doing it; it's something I WANT my government doing