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Clyburn believes Clinton would have won 2016 election, if Obama nominated a black woman.

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Talk about provocative statement made by Jim Clyburn. He believes Obama should have nominated a black woman instead of Merrick Garland. From the article:

House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn said that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would've won the 2016 presidential election if former President Barack Obama had nominated a Black woman to the Supreme Court, according to The Hill...."I'll always believe that if this had been done when Garland's name went up that Hillary Clinton would have been president," he said. He continued: "All you've got to do is look at voter turnout. Look at Hillary Clinton's turnout. I just think the Black vote would have been much more incentivized in Michigan, for instance, and other places, that I think would have made a huge difference. It would have given her a much better message to run on."
While Democratic presidential nominees previously won the pivotal states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in every election from 1992 to 2012, Clinton lost all three in 2016 — and decreased turnout among Black voters coupled with a collapse among rural white voters doomed her candidacy. Had Clinton won all three states instead of former President Donald Trump, she would have won the White House.

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Talk about provocative statement made by Jim Clyburn. He believes Obama should have nominated a black woman instead of Merrick Garland. From the article:



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If so, America dodged a humongous bullet because of The Anointed One's choice.
 

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Talk about provocative statement made by Jim Clyburn. He believes Obama should have nominated a black woman instead of Merrick Garland. From the article:



Do you think this is accurate?

I don't think it's accurate.

1. Show me evidence that Mitch McConnell wouldn't have shelved the nomination for any other candidate.

2. The Black voters who didn't show up to vote had their reasons. I think the biggest one is that Hillary just didn't turn them on and they were hardly alone.
 

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Talk about provocative statement made by Jim Clyburn. He believes Obama should have nominated a black woman instead of Merrick Garland. From the article:



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No. Hillary Clinton lost on her own, with a little help from Comey.
 

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Again, notice that Democrats aren't interested in nominating the best candidates; they're only interested in manipulating voters with skin color politics and emotional wedge issues.

These people are going to be roundly defeated in November. They deserve defeat.
 

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Talk about provocative statement made by Jim Clyburn. He believes Obama should have nominated a black woman instead of Merrick Garland. From the article:



Do you think this is accurate?
No. maybe five more people are going to vote for Hillary Clinton because someone else not named Clinton ( Obama) did not nominate a black woman for a SCOTUS court position that never even got a hearing.

If there was not sufficient passion among the base for Hillary, to get up, grab some keys and drive to the polls, its because Hillary the Candidate, just did not nurture that kind of passion. Its not Obama's fault, or Sanders fault, or Tim Kaine's fault, or even Husband Bill's fault. Maybe in retrospect, she needed to alter her campaign schedule and spend a little more time in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin as some of the polling numbers tightened, or maybe it would have made no difference. But this theory is ludicrous.
 
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Again, notice that Democrats aren't interested in nominating the best candidates; they're only interested in manipulating voters with skin color politics and emotional wedge issues.

These people are going to be roundly defeated in November. They deserve defeat.
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Talk about provocative statement made by Jim Clyburn. He believes Obama should have nominated a black woman instead of Merrick Garland. From the article:

Do you think this is accurate?
No, but maybe, there were four or five things I could have done different to make the difference too.

I was propping up Mrs. Clinton up so bad.

When I found out about the astrological model, I turned around to see what I was doing, and it was all astrology.

So I became a firm believer, Mrs. Clinton is -2 and Trump 5 while Biden and Sanders 7, Biden now ten since his win and Trump's loss. Jeb Bush would have been the easier one to beat, what was he? I have to look it up, zero.

Kamala is -14, Pete -6. It just goes to show that the traits that reoccur are the same ones that make you popular or disliked. Whether one is a orator, short tempered, can appear as a popular hero etc.
 

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Do you think this is accurate?
Of course. Senator Obama won in 2008 because of the unprecedented enthusiasm and pride and joy of the ethnicity under consideration.

If President Obama had nominated a lady of that ethnicity for the Court, it would have been electrifying.

As I remember, the Republicans refused to even grant a hearing to Judge Garland.

But those Republicans would have thought twice or even thrice before daring to snub (a) a lady and (b) a person of color.
 

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I think Clyburn has an agenda. That he seems like the single politician most dedicated to a focus on black Americans. It was he that got Biden to pledge to put a black woman on the Supreme Court, as he pretty much single handedly turned the presidential election around for Biden in return. There are a lot worse agendas, but that's what it looks like.
 

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Again, notice that Democrats aren't interested in nominating the best candidates; they're only interested in manipulating voters with skin color politics and emotional wedge issues.

These people are going to be roundly defeated in November. They deserve defeat.
Are you saying there aren't any black women qualified to sit on the high court?

By who? The Republicans? Then what? Trump either way? They will you know, I promise, watch and see, I will not fight them, Biden has a better score and Trump the New Moon. And I can relax. Should we put that into the computer? Republican November and Exquisitor can relax. Just like taking an antacid.
 

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Your unsupported, biased opinion isn’t.
He delivered the black vote in SC so Biden could beat Bernie and got a black, female SCOTUS Justice - sounds racist to me. Remember "You ain't Black unless you vote to me"?
 

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He delivered the black vote in SC so Biden could beat Bernie and got a black, female SCOTUS Justice - sounds racist to me. Remember "You ain't Black unless you vote to me"?
I'm glad he chose a real black person, not just some confused white person.
 

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Of course. Senator Obama won in 2008 because of the unprecedented enthusiasm and pride and joy of the ethnicity under consideration.
Sarah Palin helped a lot, too.
As I remember, the Republicans refused to even grant a hearing to Judge Garland.
Actually, McConnell screwed Obama out of appointing Merrick Garland.
 

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Clyburn's a racist.
The Democrat Party has been the racist's, party of choice before, during, and after the Civil War!

And remained the racist's, party of choice even after LBJ began buying minority votes in the 1960s!

And buying minority votes with taxpayer dollars still remains a top policy of the Democrat Party!
 

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He delivered the black vote in SC so Biden could beat Bernie and got a black, female SCOTUS Justice - sounds racist to me. Remember "You ain't Black unless you vote to me"?
Clearly, you don’t know the definition of racist.
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You’re welcome. 👍
 

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It was a the confused white person that nominated her. :cool:
No, Kamala is a confused white person, Obama is a confused white person.

Joe, he's not confused, he's the most unconfused President yet, because we're getting better, but he didn't axe the 2017 tax cut right away no strings attached, so really, he's not really very good yet.

You could say Trump wasn't confused, he always remained true to his principles, although we can't say much of those, he did try, but character flaws and the 2017 tax cut got him.
 
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