• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every persons position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Clinton Hits 'Magic Number' of Delegates to Clinch Nomination

ARealConservative

cookies crumble
Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 12, 2006
Messages
14,518
Reaction score
3,438
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
more clinton lies from the MSM. she needs those superdelegates, and they get added at the convention and not before.
 

Cephus

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 15, 2007
Messages
31,034
Reaction score
11,932
Location
CA
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Conservative
more clinton lies from the MSM. she needs those superdelegates, and they get added at the convention and not before.

They are pledged now. They can change their mind at any time though.
 

ARealConservative

cookies crumble
Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 12, 2006
Messages
14,518
Reaction score
3,438
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
They are pledged now. They can change their mind at any time though.

doesn't matter. I can pledge who I vote for as well, but it isn't counted until it is my turn to vote.
 

reinoe

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 8, 2013
Messages
16,824
Reaction score
7,183
Location
Out West
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Centrist
more clinton lies from the MSM. she needs those superdelegates, and they get added at the convention and not before.

Yeah. I've been a harsh critic of Faux News over the years, but I've rarely seen them so obviously in the tank for a candidate the way CBS/MSNBC/CNN are in the tank for Hillary. It's shocking that for once Faux News actually looks fair and balanced by comparison. :shock:
 

Cephus

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 15, 2007
Messages
31,034
Reaction score
11,932
Location
CA
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Conservative
doesn't matter. I can pledge who I vote for as well, but it isn't counted until it is my turn to vote.

Seriously, do you think any of them, the overwhelming majority are Democratic Party insiders, are going to vote for Bernie? Seriously?
 

imyoda

DP Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
5,731
Reaction score
1,025
Location
Sarasota, Florida
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Yeah. I've been a harsh critic of Faux News over the years, but I've rarely seen them so obviously in the tank for a candidate the way CBS/MSNBC/CNN are in the tank for Hillary. It's shocking that for once Faux News actually looks fair and balanced by comparison. :shock:

You're just saying what someone else told you...............You can't kid a kidder
 

Captain America

Jedi Master
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2006
Messages
22,793
Reaction score
13,091
Location
Wisconsin
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Centrist
I got this on my FaceBook page. It was posted by one of those Bernie or Bust people I think.

As you may have heard, media outlets plan to announce Hillary as the Democratic nominee before all states have finished voting on Tuesday. To be clear, this is because they have been including superdelegates in their numbers since day one. This is misleading and incorrect as superdelegates do not vote until the national convention. Neither Bernie nor Hillary can clinch this nomination with the number of delegates remaining. This is going all the way to the convention. The media is trying to break our spirits. Do not let them.
Angry about this? Good. You should be.Want to do something about it?
1. VOTE. Do not let anyone discourage you. Every single vote counts.
2. If you’re in line on Tuesday, don’t let those around you leave. ‪#‎HoldTheLine‬
3. Share this post.
4. Let your friends and family know about this, and make sure they will still vote.
5. Phonebank (https://www.berniepb.com) and Facebank (Invite friends who like Bernie Sanders to events on Facebook). What better way to stick it to the establishment than by having an absolutely YUGE turnout?
6. Don’t use mainstream media on Tuesday.
 

Nilly

stb
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 12, 2014
Messages
6,871
Reaction score
3,807
Location
DC
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Progressive
So for the first time in this countries history, a woman has been nominated for office by one of the major political parties. It doesn't really feel like it because of how long Hillary has been in the spotlight but that's actually kind of a big deal.
 

imyoda

DP Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
5,731
Reaction score
1,025
Location
Sarasota, Florida
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
So for the first time in this countries history, a woman has been nominated for office by one of the major political parties. It doesn't really feel like it because of how long Hillary has been in the spotlight but that's actually kind of a big deal.

Believe it.............it is a big deal and a historic moment
 

Skeptic Bob

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 6, 2014
Messages
16,626
Reaction score
19,488
Location
Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Seriously, do you think any of them, the overwhelming majority are Democratic Party insiders, are going to vote for Bernie? Seriously?

Any of them? Well, since some of them have stated they will vote for Bernie my answer would be...yes?

Hillary's superdelegates switched over to Obama back in 2008. It happens. Do I think it is likely? No, I don't. Sure, something could come up with the investigation that would send Hillary's numbers crashing that might make them reconsider but it isn't likely. Certainly not impossible, though.

That said, even though I am a Bernie supporter, I wouldn't want Bernie to win with Superdelegates if he lost the popular vote. I am against Hillary winning that way and I would be against Bernie winning that way.
 

eohrnberger

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 20, 2013
Messages
44,306
Reaction score
28,834
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Neither of the candidates have won their nominations as of yet. As of now they are still their party's presumptive nominates.
 

Moot

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 11, 2006
Messages
40,402
Reaction score
15,310
Location
Utah
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Yeah. I've been a harsh critic of Faux News over the years, but I've rarely seen them so obviously in the tank for a candidate the way CBS/MSNBC/CNN are in the tank for Hillary. It's shocking that for once Faux News actually looks fair and balanced by comparison. :shock:

I suspect you've never seen FoxNews so divided and nervous over their own party candidate, either.
 

Chillfolks

DP Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2016
Messages
10,641
Reaction score
5,195
Location
VA
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
It's good to see Debbie was able to lie, cheat, and steal her candidate of choice into the presumptive nomination.
 

Abbazorkzog

Zapatista Libertarian
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2014
Messages
11,940
Reaction score
3,998
Location
#TrumpWasAnInsideJob
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
Another spin campaign. Hillary still needs almost 600 delegates to clinch the nomination without these obnoxious Kangaroo Delegates.
 

Chomsky

Social Democrat
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 28, 2015
Messages
55,800
Reaction score
43,008
Location
Third Coast
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
So for the first time in this countries history, a woman has been nominated for office by one of the major political parties. It doesn't really feel like it because of how long Hillary has been in the spotlight but that's actually kind of a big deal.
Good point.

But something about it feels anticlimactic.

If she wins the general, I doubt it is going to be anything like the night I celebrated with 1M others in Grant Park 8 years ago ...
 

Nilly

stb
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 12, 2014
Messages
6,871
Reaction score
3,807
Location
DC
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Progressive
That said, even though I am a Bernie supporter, I wouldn't want Bernie to win with Superdelegates if he lost the popular vote. I am against Hillary winning that way and I would be against Bernie winning that way.

This, big time. Whilst I think it would have been great if he got the nomination, the way that some Bernie supporters have acted the last few months of this nomination period has really rubbed me the wrong way. As unfortunate as it is, Bernie lost the popular vote regardless of superdelegates (whilst some of that could be put down to disproportionate media coverage, a vote is a vote) and there is a lot of hypocrisy coming from his supporters right now. If you were a Bernie supporter and don't like Hillary, you're well within your rights to vote for a 3rd party candidate, but (as you say, barring something massive coming up) the democratic nomination process is as good as over.
 

JoeTrumps

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 30, 2013
Messages
2,901
Reaction score
1,346
Location
Memphis
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Wow, can't wait to see the HUGE bump she gets by being the official Democrat nominee.

just kidding, she'll get a tiny bump, the FBI will come with the indictment papers, and the entire democrat party will become a dumpster fire of epic proportions.

buckle up boys.
 

Skeptic Bob

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 6, 2014
Messages
16,626
Reaction score
19,488
Location
Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Good point.

But something about it feels anticlimactic.

If she wins the general, I doubt it is going to be anything like the night I celebrated with 1M others in Grant Park 8 years ago ...

That was one hell of a night, even if he did fall far short of our expectations in the end.
 

TobyOne

I am the pretty one.
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 24, 2014
Messages
5,770
Reaction score
1,953
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
The socialists are going to freak. This will probably suppress Bernie voting tomorrow.
 

MrT

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 4, 2015
Messages
5,849
Reaction score
2,426
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
more clinton lies from the MSM. she needs those superdelegates, and they get added at the convention and not before.

The same can be said of Trump's delegates that are unbound and were counted towards the claim that Trump had secured the nomination when his announcement was made.
 

imyoda

DP Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
5,731
Reaction score
1,025
Location
Sarasota, Florida
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I suspect you've never seen FoxNews so divided and nervous over their own party candidate, either.

Faux is giggle city...almost as good as SNL..........:lamo


Many of the viewers must be tearing apart the bathroom medicine cabinet looking for the valium..........
 

MrT

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 4, 2015
Messages
5,849
Reaction score
2,426
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
I got this on my FaceBook page. It was posted by one of those Bernie or Bust people I think.

As you may have heard, media outlets plan to announce Hillary as the Democratic nominee before all states have finished voting on Tuesday. To be clear, this is because they have been including superdelegates in their numbers since day one. This is misleading and incorrect as superdelegates do not vote until the national convention. Neither Bernie nor Hillary can clinch this nomination with the number of delegates remaining. This is going all the way to the convention. The media is trying to break our spirits. Do not let them.
Angry about this? Good. You should be.Want to do something about it?
1. VOTE. Do not let anyone discourage you. Every single vote counts.
2. If you’re in line on Tuesday, don’t let those around you leave. ‪#‎HoldTheLine‬
3. Share this post.
4. Let your friends and family know about this, and make sure they will still vote.
5. Phonebank (https://www.berniepb.com) and Facebank (Invite friends who like Bernie Sanders to events on Facebook). What better way to stick it to the establishment than by having an absolutely YUGE turnout?
6. Don’t use mainstream media on Tuesday.

#6 is don't use the mainstream media for one day? Seriously?

Hell, the number of mainstream stories about her being the presumptive nominee will only grow exponentially from Wednesday onward.
 
Top Bottom