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Climate Science is in the crapper for warmists .

Yes gslack. They're all out to get you.

All of them.

No ding dong, they got you already. Me, they don't even try to get. It's the ignorant masses (you and other ignorant warmers or greenies) whom they are out to get.

Seriously you just spent several posts claiming the IPCC is a preeminent scientific body, and the fact is they are nothing but an AGW advocacy group,and when shown that their own words speak about what they actually want, you try and deflect onto others your own blind submission?

ROFL. you're some bit of work man.
 

Its gotten so bad even some of the warmers have been slapping him down lately, because this guy is a really embarrassing advert for all that is wrong with the advocate position ! :doh
 

The science in the IPCC is a review of peer reviewed work.

Your continued railing against all of science does make you seem a bit 'out there'.
 
The science in the IPCC is a review of peer reviewed work.

Your continued railing against all of science does make you seem a bit 'out there'.

No railing against science, just pointing out what you call science is political agenda..
 
No railing against science, just pointing out what you call science is political agenda..

Again. Nature. Science. PNAS.

The top three journals in science agree with me, along with dozens more.

These aren't like newspapers....they are the body of published scientific work which makes up the knowledge of science.

And you are on the opposite side.
 

AGAIN, you were talking about the IPCC...

Previously I showed you papers from those very journals arguing against the accuracy of models, which you previously claimed were not in those journals.When I pointed them out you denied their relevancy and circle talked and tried to change the claim.. Nice try...

Now is this all we can expect from you? Is this all you bring to the debate? Circle talk and deflection? If so I think you are in fact a disservice to your side of the debate..
 

Its just called 'flaming' for short
 
Glad to see you're staying up with the lingo.

But it's not flaming.

I call it insincere and disingenuous posting. Meaning you have no desire to have any real or meaningful discourse on the subject, you just wish to appear the winner. The fact it's a meaningless or pious victory created rather than won matters nothing to you because you lack the ethical capacity to realize the difference. To you it's about appearances and it shows in your ridiculous claim of being a researcher despite the fact your posts show this to be blatantly false. You don't care if anyone believes your claim anymore than you care that it's a lie.

Your a troll and doing what a troll does.
 
Not models. Data.

Try to keep up, won't you?

Your previous claim was the models were accurate and pointedly you asked if they weren't why aren't they shown in the science journals you mentioned... You're lying again now... More of your BS dancing and lying.. Frankly I feel you are a worthless poster here and you bring nothing genuine to the discussion. IMHO, you are trolling for effect.
 

I've said it before but I'll say it again

 
In other words, pointing out your statements are contrary to contemporary scientific opinion is 'trolling'.

And repeating that fact is it willing to address facts'.

Uh huh.
 
In other words, pointing out your statements are contrary to contemporary scientific opinion is 'trolling'.

And repeating that fact is it willing to address facts'.

Uh huh.

No what your are doing is trolling. You lie and deflect or misdirect when you're caught. Sorry buddy but your MO is clear now.
 
Is that the material you think I should read?

Or maybe this paper on UV radiation?
http://individual.utoronto.ca/ekwan/ozone.pdf

The work on cosmic rays?

Is this the stuff you think I'm not reading?

Once I started reading that paper, I noticed it is old. Still lots of speculation in that area, but since SORCE was launched, the UV levels are better known. Have you kept up with the data from the TIM and other equipment on SORCE since it started data collection in 2003?

That article, though good for 1999, is not quite correct in assessments. We keep learning more and more, and to be certain driven by agenda just isn't science. There is mixed feeling about cosmic rays as well. I think I read this article years ago. Not sure, but I at least read a similar one.

One quick NASA article attached to pic:

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Part referring to pic:

 
The science in the IPCC is a review of peer reviewed work.

Your continued railing against all of science does make you seem a bit 'out there'.
Is any of it an "open" peer review process?

I think if you look into that, you will find it is all a "closed" review process, by like minded individuals.
 
Except the time delay spans several solar cycles. Feel free to present some evidence that temperature changes follow solar changes by 35 years. Oh, wait, that might require a model...
The larger the system, the larger the lag.

The ocean may hold changes in the deeper waters for several decades before coming to equilibrium.
 
Is any of it an "open" peer review process?

I think if you look into that, you will find it is all a "closed" review process, by like minded individuals.

You mean like the peer review process of every single other scientific discipline?

What other major scientific disciplines findings do you reject?

Physics?
Medicine?
 
You mean like the peer review process of every single other scientific discipline?

What other major scientific disciplines findings do you reject?

Physics?
Medicine?

LOL,forgetting for a moment the fact peer review is not a statement of anything being a fact or true in any sense.. you are now claiming that all peer review is a closed process? Really? Dude I knew you were lying about being a researcher but that really is ignorant... Damn dude read something will ya...

Peer review - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


If you're going to troll, at least make some form of effort in it..
 
Disagreements among dueling theories is common in the scientific community.

The big difference is that they don't receive anywhere near the attention as climate science. That's because climate scinec is fraught with political advocacy.
Not many scientific hypotheses are asking world communities to commit trillions of dollars.
That's why the climate science filed is corrupt;it's more politics for the warmists than science. Consequently , that's why there is just so much bad climate science.
Whenever you arrive at you conclusion FIRST and then try to backfill it with suporting facts, you get bad science.

Want a great example? That Cook survey. Peer reviewed and published in a journal l. Are you kidding? IF that doesn't convince you of the corruption of the warmists then
you just put a pumber sticker on your car. "I wanna believe in global warming . I wanna. I wanna. I wanna"
[Cue picture of Lilty Tomlin as Edith Ann on Laugh in]
 


So I guess we can assume your familiarity with peer review comes primarily from Wikipedia?

Blinded review is the standard. Open peer review is still somewhat new and not as well accepted.

But thanks for playing.

Maybe it's dawned on you that you don't quite have a grasp on the process, so maybe-just maybe- the guys who study this for a living might know a little bit more than you.
 
You mean like the peer review process of every single other scientific discipline?

What other major scientific disciplines findings do you reject?

Physics?
Medicine?
I don't know about physics, but medical research uses an open review process.

They have secret processes. Skeptics cannot see their data or process in whole. They do this purposely, and if they have real accurate conclusions, then why don't they open their process to convince others?
 
Blind reviews are failing in the climate sciences. Believe as you wish, but it is true.
 


Some uses open review. For all I know some climate journals use it too.
 

You just claimed it was the same for all disciplines, now you alter your claim and call me the dumb one???? ROFL, you aren't very good at this are you..
 
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