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Basically everything before the Fall of Rome. Who here can give me some direction to find information/books/websites about all kinds of classical history, Romans, Greeks, Etruscans, Carthaginians, Numidians, Syrians, Egyptians, before Christianity came and wrecked it all?

Thanks in advance.
 

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I would start with Lionel Casson's The Ancient Mariners, to get an overview of how international trade and cultural influences developed over time in the Med. It covers Egypt, the Phoenicians, Greece, etc., with very good economic backgrounds, always of primary importance. It's not very long, and aids in further readings on the subject.

For China and Asia I have no idea.
 

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I recommend Wikipedia.org

You can also simply search using Google.

I recommend looking through the internet before looking through any book, the internet is not the biggest database for nothing.
 

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Arch Enemy said:
I recommend Wikipedia.org

You can also simply search using Google.

I recommend looking through the internet before looking through any book, the internet is not the biggest database for nothing.
I use wikipedia often. I was asking for suggestions as to where it gets more in depth.

Def a good source though, even though it can be edited by anyone....:roll:
 

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Polish Rob said:
Basically everything before the Fall of Rome. Who here can give me some direction to find information/books/websites about all kinds of classical history, Romans, Greeks, Etruscans, Carthaginians, Numidians, Syrians, Egyptians, before Christianity came and wrecked it all?

Thanks in advance.
Before Christianity wrecked it all? Mankind's faults and shizzy records can't be blamed upon a religion. Don't be a fool!
 

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I was thinking the same thing Donkey...minus the Fool part.
Part of my cleaner new image!

The birth of Christianity is simply an offshoot of Judiasm. Both of these and Islam all derive from the same idea in the same One God. Cna't blame Christians for ALL of it. ;)
 

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Donkey1499 said:
Before Christianity wrecked it all? Mankind's faults and shizzy records can't be blamed upon a religion. Don't be a fool!
if you look at cultures before christianity you see advance temples and pyramids. greek democracy, and the roman senate. When Christianity hit the spot black plaque and violence were in abundance and ruthless god-like christian kings ruled all.
 

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if you look at cultures before christianity you see advance temples and pyramids. greek democracy, and the roman senate. When Christianity hit the spot black plaque and violence were in abundance and ruthless god-like christian kings ruled all.
Well, he has a valid point. Mesopotamian Priest kings were known for their harsh rule, and the assyrians are noted as one of the bloodiest civilizations, skinning people alive and such. But, the christians did many bad things in their own respect. Check out greek virtue ethics. Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, etc. There is little change from then to now. People need to understand this.
 

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Polish Rob said:
Well, he has a valid point. Mesopotamian Priest kings were known for their harsh rule, and the assyrians are noted as one of the bloodiest civilizations, skinning people alive and such. But, the christians did many bad things in their own respect. Check out greek virtue ethics. Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, etc. There is little change from then to now. People need to understand this.
Yeah and the mayans who had human sacrificial ceromonies, but I think what he meant by "Christianity ruining it all" is that as soon as chrstianity came in, we started having a modern civilization. Overall it's just more fun to study cultures that are completely different from the one you know.
 

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Donkey1499 said:
Before Christianity wrecked it all? Mankind's faults and shizzy records can't be blamed upon a religion. Don't be a fool!
Civilization will turn for the better when chickens run the corporations!

LOLOL....Bam!.....
 

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Che said:
if you look at cultures before christianity you see advance temples and pyramids. greek democracy, and the roman senate. When Christianity hit the spot black plaque and violence were in abundance and ruthless god-like christian kings ruled all.
Total nonsense. Read this.
 

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We're not fully blaming christianity, we're merely stating that it was the major factor. Certainly the epic of Gilgamesh and The biblical story of Noah's ark intersect perfectly, but that only furthers that christianity destroyed the ancient world.
 

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Polish Rob said:
We're not fully blaming christianity, we're merely stating that it was the major factor. Certainly the epic of Gilgamesh and The biblical story of Noah's ark intersect perfectly, but that only furthers that christianity destroyed the ancient world.
The failure of history is man's own undoing, not christianity. And anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
 

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Donkey1499 said:
The failure of history is man's own undoing, not christianity. And anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
That statement in itself is ignorant man
 

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Some things were the fault of Christianity. The crusades for example, were bloody death plaqued battles done in the name of Christ.
 

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Che said:
Some things were the fault of Christianity. The crusades for example, were bloody death plaqued battles done in the name of Christ.
It was more than that! Politics wa involved too. Kings and even the frickin' Pope wanted the land to get rich. The soldiers were mislead into thinking that it was Christ that they were fighting. In fact, I believe Jesus would've been against the Crusades. So I don't blame Christianity (the religion) for the crusades, I blame corrupt politicians and false leaders.
 
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