And there is usually a good reason for these exceptions. What loophole in the Constitution permits dening birthright citizenship.
What loophole in the Constitution bypasses freedom of speech? After all you cannot yell FIRE! in a theator.
Where's the loophole that says the government can make you wait a certain period while they check your record before you can buy that handgun? Or that you must carry a concealed weapons permit when you carry that gun in the inside of your jacket?
Point being is that there are exceptions that can be made despite what the Constitution says. When there is a need to do so. It just needs to pass through Congress.
Customs of war are different than civilian law. They are still enemy combatants under the command of a foreign power.
A spy can still be tried and hanged under both war laws and civilian laws. Both of those have the same punishment for the same thing.
He's using our treatment of Native Americans at a time when we treated them horribly as legal precedent. I'm saying that doesn't make sense, because our treatment of them then was filled with violence, double-standards, and broken promises.
Our treatment of them holds no power when it comes to legalities. That is the way of law. If the legal precedent was set then obviously it can still be valid, no matter the circumstances. At least it will be valid until such a ruling is overruled by a higher (or same level) court at a later date. What you're doing here is trying to use emotionalism to argue your case. Sorry but emotions mean nothing when it comes to law.
Some people on the internet =/= all Illegals. Most come for jobs most don't care all that much about land-grabbing, or anchor babies for that matter.
Yes I know, not all illegals come to do bad. But when we have gangs like the 18th street gang which is made up of hispanics and are around 30k strong then we have a problem. Last I heard law enforcement officials estimated that at least half of them were in the US illegally. And that is just one gang. In one area of the US. That doesn't count the Surenos which is not only bigger than the 18th street gang but is also entirely made up people that work for the Mexican Mafia. And they're alot better organized than the 18th street gang also. How many in that one is illegal?
But lets focus, for now, on the ones that are here just to work and live the good life. How are they going about doing that? Are they working under the table? If so then they're not paying taxes. Which is illegal. If they have an anchor baby then that baby can get welfare assistance...and by default they get it also...though of course not "officially". So they're not paying taxes and still getting welfare. Of course then there is the schooling for their children, anchor baby or not. They are literally over running our schools. And then there is the medical bills. An illegal gets free medical services. After all how is the hospital going to collect money from someone that "doesn't exist" in the US?
Now how about the ones that were able to get a legitimate job? How did they get it? By using either a fake or a stolen social security number. While the stolen SS# may not affect anyone directly the stolen one sure does. And they can use that stolen one to get as much welfare as they want/need also. Putting even further strain on our welfare program than it is without them.
Point is that even the ones that are not out to do bad still hurt us.
You can state that the law needs to be changed, but you not liking it doesn't make it go away.
While it may not make it go away immediately it may make it go away eventually. Remember those exceptions that we were talking about? One can be made for this also.
So does sending them back to Honduras
Another cry to emotionalism. Perhaps instead of spending all of their money to get to the US illegally then maybe they would have been able to either make things a bit safer for them in Honduras or used it to get a ticket to the US legally. Point being is that it should not be our problem to solve. But thiers. We have our own problems to deal with and our own people that are dying through murder or sleeping out in the streets. My folks once told me..."before you can help others you must first be able to help yourself". That statement applies here as well. It's great to help others. It truely is. But if you do so before you are fully able to then you will eventually end up in the persons shoes that you were trying to help, thereby making it impossible to help others.
I support making the process simpler. I still don't see how an Anchor baby being born here screws over those waiting in line any more than a typical natural-born citizen.
I'll just say one word...Quotas.
Was not part of your arguement about equality under the law? If everything was truely equal under the law then I would be getting a check from the government every month like the Indians do. My example was to show you that not everything is equal under the law.
Give the parents a choice, take the kid with them, put it in foster care, or wait in line (one with a simpler, cheaper, and fairer process of course).
Giving the parents a choice may not be in the best interest of the child. It is not our governments responsibility to take care of the parents so they must be sent back to their country of origin. Also it is the law that they must be sent back. Lets use the country in your example...Honduras. Would it be in the best interest of the child, who the government is concerned about since he/she is a US Citizen, to let that child go back with his parents to Honduras? The kid would have to go into foster care...which again..puts a strain on our system. A strain that never would have happened had the parents not come here illegally. For the simple fact that they would either not be here in the first place or they would be here legally, in which case they would be keeping thier kid.
Let them wait in line? Sorry, no can do. At least they can't wait in line inside the US. They could in thier country of origin though. The law states that illegals must be deported. As for making it cheaper? You do realize that the fee they pay to come to the US goes towards part of the bill to keep the immigration office open and available to those that do come here legally? Sorry but making it cheaper isn't really feasible.
Make the way in easier? Why? What obligation do we have towards someone of another country? Do we not have an obligation to our citizens first and foremost? If they want in then they should have to prove that they will not be a strain on our resources. Prove that they will obey our laws. Prove that they know the basics of our law system. And there are probably other things that I would name if I was awake enough to think of them. Nothing less will suffice.