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Cindy Sheehan arrested........

No she did not. She wore a t-shirt the GOP objected too.

Since when did the first amendmetn end at the door to congress?

If I were her I would fight this arrest to the US Supreme Court.

There have been rules about dress in the chamber for many, many years, including a ban on slogans of any kind, or advertisements, or cut-off jeans, etc. The news reports that I have read say that she was initially asked to merely cover the slogan or leave. The arrest came after she reportedly became "abusive", though I haven't yet seen a description of exactly how or in what way she became "abusive".
 
Is it at all possible that we can by accident of course lose the key? Common.... she got what she wanted, her 15minute clock has now moved to 16 minutes. And she gave her shehan cheese heads something to cheer about and to defend her for. Just look at this thread
 
Calm2Chaos said:
Is it at all possible that we can by accident of course lose the key? Common.... she got what she wanted, her 15minute clock has now moved to 16 minutes. And she gave her shehan cheese heads something to cheer about and to defend her for. Just look at this thread

Possibly. She could have known that she didn't stand a chance of staying in the hall. But the arrest alone gave her what she wanted. The problem for the democrats, however, is wanting to support her cause and, at the same time, distancing themselves from her lunacy. Just because Champs and other extemists applaud her stunts, it doesn't mean the rational democrats aren't embarrassed by her. They see the harm she is doing to their party.
 
KCConservative said:
Possibly. She could have known that she didn't stand a chance of staying in the hall. But the arrest alone gave her what she wanted. The problem for the democrats, however, is wanting to support her cause and, at the same time, distancing themselves from her lunacy. Just because Champs and other extemists applaud her stunts, it doesn't mean the rational democrats aren't embarrassed by her. They see the harm she is doing to their party.

Kind of like inviting a skunk into your house. Once there in, the stink is going to get everywhere no matter what you do
 
Not much attention being paid to the wife of an 18-term Repub congressman who was asked to leave the gallery because her t-shirt read "Support the Troops".

U.S. Rep. Bill Young, R-Florida, spoke on the House floor saying his wife, Beverly, had been "ordered to leave" the gallery during the speech for wearing a shirt that said, "Support Our Troops."

See CNN.
 
Navy Pride said:
Again, please read the thread so you can be informed........It was not a man nor a senator that invited her..It was a congresswoman....

I see very few liberals condemning the outrageous things she says or does so I can only assume liberals condone it but don't have the balls to admit it.......
Instead of answering, you just wrote that...so I got one thing wrong. So, here is the questions again, edited so it is a woman.

was she like President bush in her right to invite her? And, what makes you think all liberals are irrational and like her? Some of us are pragmatic and think through our positions and actualyl realize that Iraq needs to be taken care of before a civil war that will tear the region appart, bringing in as many as three countries to do battle (oh yes, you think it can't happen, but the more you read, the more you realize how it could...I should make a topic on it, really fascinating stuff). Actually, another question-what do you think about the logic behind linking the shirt to a protest zone and do you think it would hold up in court?
 
galenrox said:
How do you explain Bush's approval ratings going from 90% in October 2001 to 39% in the most recent polls?
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

A lot of people have changed their minds on Bush and this administration.

You can make anything out of a poll you like.....I could stand outside the gate at Fort Lewis Army post and take a poll and his approval rating would be 90%.....

The Liberals and the media have been bashing GWB for 5 years ..Of course that will have a bearing on any poll...........
 
YNKYH8R said:
What better place to practice the freedom of speech then where laws are formed. It's not like the walking dutch oven said anything important anyway. Hell, half the assembly didn't stand. So if elected officials don't respect the man-thing why should we we?

That must be the first state of the union you have seen or you would know that the opposition party very seldom stands or applauds.......Its called partisan politics........The dems do it with GWB and the republcans did it with "Slick Willie.".........

You can rant and rave your America hate speech all you want........That is what those brave guys in Iraq are fighting and dying fore but the State of the Union is the wrong place and time.............If you don't respect the president of the U.S. have some respect for the office he represents.........
 
Navy Pride said:
You can make anything out of a poll you like.....I could stand outside the gate at Fort Lewis Army post and take a poll and his approval rating would be 90%.....

The Liberals and the media have been bashing GWB for 5 years ..Of course that will have a bearing on any poll...........

Well, if their faith in him is so easily swayed by "liberal and media bashing", they obviously couldn't have had much faith in him to begin with.
 
oldreliable67 said:
Not much attention being paid to the wife of an 18-term Repub congressman who was asked to leave the gallery because her t-shirt read "Support the Troops".



See CNN.

If the rules say that you can't wear T shirts with slogans, then I don't see a problem with applying the rule to everyone.

Shouldn't he know better, having been there for so long? ;)
 
ShamMol said:
Instead of answering, you just wrote that...so I got one thing wrong. So, here is the questions again, edited so it is a woman.

was she like President bush in her right to invite her? And, what makes you think all liberals are irrational and like her? Some of us are pragmatic and think through our positions and actualyl realize that Iraq needs to be taken care of before a civil war that will tear the region appart, bringing in as many as three countries to do battle (oh yes, you think it can't happen, but the more you read, the more you realize how it could...I should make a topic on it, really fascinating stuff). Actually, another question-what do you think about the logic behind linking the shirt to a protest zone and do you think it would hold up in court?

I personally think she was wrong to invite her.........If you go back and look at my second post in this thread I said before I even knew that she would try and pull some outrageous stunt.......

I just don't see democrats or liberal condemning the stupid things she says or does so I can only surmise that the love what she is doing but don't have the courage or backbone to say it.............

There are standards of dress for attending the State of the Union..She broke those standards..........
 
NYStateofMind said:
If the rules say that you can't wear T shirts with slogans, then I don't see a problem with applying the rule to everyone.

Shouldn't he know better, having been there for so long? ;)
I think the point was that we aren't hearing the Cindy defenders stepping up to defend this other person who was also escorted out. Demonstrations, right nor left, were tolerated at the Capital last night. Funny how we only hear of Cindy's arrest and not the pro war demonstrator.
 
Stace said:
Well, if their faith in him is so easily swayed by "liberal and media bashing", they obviously couldn't have had much faith in him to begin with.

There is always a group of people like that..............You can't get away from it.........
 
KCConservative said:
I think the point was that we aren't hearing the Cindy defenders stepping up to defend this other person who was also escorted out. Demonstrations, right nor left, were tolerated at the Capital last night. Funny how we only hear of Cindy's arrest and not the pro war demonstrator.

Can you say bias left wing media?
 
If no one really believes that Woolsey was simply being genuine and didn't have ulterior motives when she handed out a ticket to demagogue Cindy Sheenen then I have a bridge right here that I can sell you.

From the bolded quote alone Woolsey was more than aware of Sheenan's polictical activist escapades.


Press Writer
Wed Feb 1, 4:04 AM ET



WASHINGTON - Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a fallen soldier in Iraq who reinvigorated the anti-war movement, was arrested and removed from the House gallery Tuesday night just before President Bush's State of the Union address, a police spokeswoman said.

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Sheehan, who was invited to attend the speech by Rep. Lynn Woolsey (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., was charged with demonstrating in the Capitol building, said Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider. The charge was later changed to unlawful conduct, Schneider said. Both charges are misdemeanors.

Sheehan was taken in handcuffs from the Capitol to police headquarters a few blocks away. Her case was processed as Bush spoke.

Schneider said Sheehan had worn a T-shirt with an anti-war slogan to the speech and covered it up until she took her seat. Police warned her that such displays were not allowed, but she did not respond, the spokeswoman said.

Police handcuffed Sheehan and removed her from the gallery before Bush arrived. Sheehan was to be released on her own recognizance, Schneider said.

"I'm proud that Cindy's my guest tonight," Woolsey said in an interview before the speech. "She has made a difference in the debate to bring our troops home from Iraq."
Woolsey offered Sheehan a ticket to the speech — Gallery 5, seat 7, row A — earlier Tuesday while Sheehan was attending an "alternative state of the union" press conference by CODEPINK, a group pushing for an end to the Iraq war.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201/ap_on_go_pr_wh/state_of_the_union_sheehan
 
Navy Pride said:
I personally think she was wrong to invite her.........If you go back and look at my second post in this thread I said before I even knew that she would try and pull some outrageous stunt.......

I just don't see democrats or liberal condemning the stupid things she says or does so I can only surmise that the love what she is doing but don't have the courage or backbone to say it.............

There are standards of dress for attending the State of the Union..She broke those standards..........

Your second post went more something like this:

Navy Pride said:
I just heard the nut case was unfurling and anti war banner....That is why she was arrested...........

How dippy can you get?

Please explain how that is saying that you knew she was going to pull some outrageous stunt? Explain how you could know that if you didn't even know she was attending until after you heard she was arrested? Obviously if she was arrested she did something, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, no predictions involved there.

Quite honestly, I couldn't care less what the woman does or says. She certainly doesn't speak on my behalf.
 
Navy Pride said:
Can you say bias left wing media?
It was in the media, NP, otherwise I wouldn;t have been able to share it here. The link is above. I was saying that no Sheehan sympathizers here on the forum has commented
 
KCConservative said:
I was saying that no Sheehan sympathizers here on the forum has commented

That is because if you have any intelligence and/or no political gain to be associated with Sheehan you would think and say she is just a anti-war activist without an educated stance.

So I am assuming majority of the posters here have some political intelligence and therefore do not agree wit her.

I'm democrat and I think she is has no place as a represenative of any sort.
 
Stace said:
Your second post went more something like this:



Please explain how that is saying that you knew she was going to pull some outrageous stunt? Explain how you could know that if you didn't even know she was attending until after you heard she was arrested? Obviously if she was arrested she did something, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, no predictions involved there.

Quite honestly, I couldn't care less what the woman does or says. She certainly doesn't speak on my behalf.

My Bad, it was actually on the thread with Cindy abd Chavez......Here is what I posted:

I just heard on CNN that the democrats are giving and honorary seat at the Presidents State of the Union tonight to Cindy Sheehan...............

I keep thinking the democratic party can't sink any lower but it sure looks like they are embracing this nutcase......

I wonder if she will make a fool of herself again there tonight..........

This should give you liberals and Sheehan fans a reason to watch the speech.......

Stay tuned........
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I'm democrat and I think she is has no place as a represenative of any sort

Gibberish, I am glad to hear you say that.......I just wish some of your liberal breathern would condemn her too......
 
KCConservative said:
I think the point was that we aren't hearing the Cindy defenders stepping up to defend this other person who was also escorted out. Demonstrations, right nor left, were tolerated at the Capital last night. Funny how we only hear of Cindy's arrest and not the pro war demonstrator.

Well, to be fair, Cindy was arrested, and the congressman's wife was simply asked to leave. I think the rule was applied evenly, since they were both asked to leave. You hear more about Cindy because she went out of her way to get arrested, again.

I agree that Cindy's intention was to get more publicity, which she did. She obviously feels strongly about the war. She also managed to get this great big long thread of people who are outraged that she dares to do a most American thing....protest the actions of the government that she disagrees with. That doesn't mean I agree with her, or think of her as a democratic leader, as some people have suggested. I think this is a tempest in a teapot, personally.

The way I look at it, if she wants to break the rules and get arrested again, it's her life. You break the rules, you pay the price....just like the other guy who wore the T shirt at Clinton's impeachment hearing.

Let's see just how long you can make this thread. She's loving it, don't you know! You are giving her exactly what she wants, keep right on posting. :roll:
 
NYStateofMind said:
If the rules say that you can't wear T shirts with slogans, then I don't see a problem with applying the rule to everyone.

Shouldn't he know better, having been there for so long? ;)

Nor do I, nor do I. He probably hasn't had to sit in the gallery very much!;)

As KC said, my post was an observation on the proportions of media attention given one versus the other.
 
oldreliable67 said:
Nor do I, nor do I. He probably hasn't had to sit in the gallery very much!;)

As KC said, my post was an observation on the proportions of media attention given one versus the other.

The media loves controversy, from either side of the aisle. They aren't fussy about whose blood is in the water. :lol:
 
A couple of months ago I saw Sean Hannity list off a few names of radical left-wing organizations and dates which Sheehan became a member and attended their events.

This is no big deal, everyone knows she's a liberal extremist, right. Well, the dates were all in the 1990s and one in 2000. That would mean she was into all this stuff BEFORE her son got killed. That seems to further indicate that she is merely parading around her dead son to further this dishonest partisan smear campaign of hers, not out of some genuine, heartfelt reaction to the loss of her son.

I think she is a piece of crap just because of the lies she perpetuates, but with this too, Jesus.
 
I understand there is this rule about proper attire but the one the Congressman wife was wearing was not one that would cause controversey where as the one that Sheehan wore was worn to casue controversey and to disrupt the State of the Union speech for partisan political reasons.....
 
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