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Chuckiechan’s Ballot Handling/Counting Idea

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To handle the millions of ballots, we don’t need big changes, just personnel:

Each mailman on the route, separates the ballots as he picks them up: mail crate, ballot crate, moved etc. crate. You get the idea. Each mail carrier presorts.
When he gets to his post office they put them in a box then in secure location.
The PO gathers them up, and postmarks them by any quick, simple, reasonably secure method.
From there they are transported to a counting station by an authorized person.

Counting is strictly manpower.
I found out recently Fort Jackson military base has 70,000 troops. Certainly 50,000 counters would be helpful, there are laid off people, military, college students. etc. You get the idea.

All you need is to a double count for accuracy, then machine tabulate.

I did vote tabulation in the ‘70’s in college. It’s all about the manpower, and it is a boring, thankless job, and the last place you would try to cheat. (It reminded me of sitting at a BINGO table with a bunch of olfactory challenged senior citizens.)

So in a sense the diversification of the letter carriers becomes the first line of defense.
 

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We could just have NC Republican operatives collect the ballots. I hear that they're experienced at that.
 

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We could just have NC Republican operatives collect the ballots. I hear that they're experienced at that.

So are the Democrats in California were harvesting is legal.
 

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The system we've been using isn't broken. Don't try to fix it.
 

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50,000 troops voted by mail in 1865

Millions of troops voted by mail during WWII

American troops have been voting by mail for over a century with few problems. Let's do it like they do it.
 

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The system we've been using isn't broken. Don't try to fix it.

Our entire nation is broken by disease and you want to spread it around more. Good thinking.
 

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But, the commie riots are ok? :lamo

Riots are never OK but the protests have not contributed to more cases of the virus according to the data. I know that breaks you heart.

Experts find little connection between protests and coronavirus case surges
In many cities that saw mass demonstrations, cases of the new coronavirus have continued to decline.

In New York, for example, around 754 cases of Covid-19 were diagnosed on May 27, the day before protests began in the city, according to the city's Department of Health. At the end of the first week of protests, the city saw just over 500 cases a day, and the following week, case counts were around 400, the New York Times reports.

Since then, case counts have continued to drop and haven't risen above 300 since June 23.

Did mass protests lead to surges in coronavirus cases? Here's what the evidence says. | Advisory Board Daily Briefing
 

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Then voting shouldn't, either. Unless it's a lie to say the riots had zero effect on spreading the virus. Both can't be true.

So you equate voters with "rioters"? You think that there numbers are equal? We can't even get people to work at polling places because of the virus. Will you volunteer?
 

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So you equate voters with "rioters"? You think that there numbers are equal? We can't even get people to work at polling places because of the virus. Will you volunteer?

Are you promoting a lie when you support the claim that the commie riots had zero effect on the spread?
 

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To handle the millions of ballots, we don’t need big changes, just personnel:

Each mailman on the route, separates the ballots as he picks them up: mail crate, ballot crate, moved etc. crate. You get the idea. Each mail carrier presorts.
When he gets to his post office they put them in a box then in secure location.
The PO gathers them up, and postmarks them by any quick, simple, reasonably secure method.
From there they are transported to a counting station by an authorized person.

Counting is strictly manpower.
I found out recently Fort Jackson military base has 70,000 troops. Certainly 50,000 counters would be helpful, there are laid off people, military, college students. etc. You get the idea.

All you need is to a double count for accuracy, then machine tabulate.

I did vote tabulation in the ‘70’s in college. It’s all about the manpower, and it is a boring, thankless job, and the last place you would try to cheat. (It reminded me of sitting at a BINGO table with a bunch of olfactory challenged senior citizens.)

So in a sense the diversification of the letter carriers becomes the first line of defense.

That is a bad idea as it would slow things down and possible delay say an absentee ballot getting sent to the city next door because a mail carrier assumed it was a local ballot.
 

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Are you promoting a lie when you support the claim that the commie riots had zero effect on the spread?

That is what the data shows and you are saying you know better? That has to be a lie. You don't know ****.
 

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50,000 troops voted by mail in 1865

Millions of troops voted by mail during WWII

American troops have been voting by mail for over a century with few problems. Let's do it like they do it.

56.7 million americans voted by mail in 2016.
 

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That is a bad idea as it would slow things down and possible delay say an absentee ballot getting sent to the city next door because a mail carrier assumed it was a local ballot.

as they say around here DEEELIBerate proactive slowing down is happening right now.
 

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as they say around here DEEELIBerate proactive slowing down is happening right now.

Sorry if you have to wait for Monday instead of getting your Amazon package on Sunday since the USPS is in the red because you pay your cable online instead of buying one of their pretty flag stamps. Decisions have consequences.
 

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Nice portrayal of what Trump must be going through trying to get the House to act.

He's trying to suppress the vote because he ****ed up the country and knows that he is likely to lose.
 

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Sorry if you have to wait for Monday instead of getting your Amazon package on Sunday since the USPS is in the red because you pay your cable online instead of buying one of their pretty flag stamps. Decisions have consequences.

Your reply demonstrates that either the import of what is happening is flying so far over your head that you can't see it, or you're all in with Benedict Trump, because what he is doing is not American, its not democratic and it oozes corruption of mind/principle/law. Dreams of RAWA?
 

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Your reply demonstrates that either the import of what is happening is flying so far over your head that you can't see it, or you're all in with Benedict Trump, because what he is doing is not American, its not democratic and it oozes corruption of mind/principle/law. Dreams of RAWA?

What is happening is the the US post office is not making money because everybody started paying everything by phone and internet, texting grandma instead of sending her a card and a billion other little decisions. As a result of declining revenues they are making decisions like any other organization to operate as best as they can within the money they actually do have. There is no grand conspiracy. This has been going on quite awhile. You just never noticed and your side is fabricating a conspiracy to justify their piss poor idea that everyone should just vote by mail. There are many many other alternatives but the democrats don't care about them because they don't want people in Iowa voting for Trump. They just want to bitch and complain. Don't like it--write your congressman. Don't email him, text him. fax him or tweet him. Buy a stamp.
 
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