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Christian churches began the system of education in America and form its backbone today

marke said:
Atheists think atheist education is superior to Christian education but their biased view is wrong.
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You are confusing indoctrination with education.
 
armycowboy said:
Christians make up 78% of the US population and you say that somehow Christians are mocked and persecuted?
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Not sure that he was limiting his point to the US only, but being in the majority does not prevent a group from being mocked and/or persecuted.
 
marke said:
Atheists think atheist education is superior to Christian education but their biased view is wrong.
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You do realize that this is the pot calling the kettle black, right.

Unless you establish a given criteria for what is "superior", the term is a subjective one.
 
marke said:
Christians can be divided into two main groups in America: (1) those who think science is right and God is wrong and (2) those who think God is right and science which contradicts the Bible is wrong. These two groups usually can also be divided between those who honor God above the government and those who honor the government above God.
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What in science contradicts the Bible?
 
ataraxia said:
Anytime anyone has tried to put up God against science, science has won.
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Science proved God did not create Adam and Eve? No, that is either the beer or the atheist bias talking, not science.
 
maquiscat said:
What in science contradicts the Bible?
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Science does not contradict the Bible at all. It is science speculation some people think is irrefutable science which often contradicts the truth.
 
marke said:
Christians conducted most secondary education in America in the 19th and early 20th century, before atheists began to take control.
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Atheists have never been in control of anything in the USA. The shift we're talking about here is from institutional theocratic Christians to independent secular Christians. The vast majority of people involved in the US education system will be Christian because the vast majority of Americans are Christian. That doesn't mean they agree with everything you (claim to) believe or want.
 
HonestJoe said:
Atheists have never been in control of anything in the USA. The shift we're talking about here is from institutional theocratic Christians to independent secular Christians. The vast majority of people involved in the US education system will be Christian because the vast majority of Americans are Christian. That doesn't mean they agree with everything you (claim to) believe or want.
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Atheists tend to indoctrinate views into kids heads which are disrespectful towards God, disrespectful towards Christian values, disrespectful towards the Bible and the historical record of humanity. They may not know they are doing that but that is what they do by nature.
 
marke said:
Atheists tend to indoctrinate views into kids heads which are disrespectful towards God, disrespectful towards Christian values, disrespectful towards the Bible and the historical record of humanity. They may not know they are doing that but that is what they do by nature.
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Even if that were true, it has nothing to do with the accusation you made, which is that atheists have taken control of the US education system. That remains patently false. Just because you don't have the theocratic dictatorship you imagine you'd want doesn't mean atheists are in control of anything.
 
Scorps2000 said:
The only group of people it's okay to "mock" or be abusive to, are Christians. Why is that?
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Because the Left, like the communists they are, want to replace religion with government.
 
marke said:
Science does not contradict the Bible at all. It is science speculation some people think is irrefutable science which often contradicts the truth.
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You quite specifically said:

marke said:
...(2) those who think God is right and science which contradicts the Bible is wrong.
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Are you then saying that in that second category, those who think God is right are still wrong in thinking that science contradicts the Bible? If so then shouldn't there be a third, maybe fourth, group, that thinks that science does not contradict, or even supports (the potential 4th group) the Bible?
 
marke said:
Atheists tend to indoctrinate views into kids heads which are disrespectful towards God, disrespectful towards Christian values, disrespectful towards the Bible and the historical record of humanity. They may not know they are doing that but that is what they do by nature.
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Since what is disrespectful will be a subjective value, how do you make this objective? Sure it's objectively disrespectful by your standards, but not necessarily by others. According to some churches (typically the more fundamentalist types), it's disrespectful to God to be baptized in any church other than theirs, since theirs is the only true Christian Church.
 
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Acadia said:
Because the Left, like the communists they are, want to replace religion with government.
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Given that, then the Founding Fathers were of the Left and Communists since they specifically separated out religion from government.
 
HonestJoe said:
Even if that were true, it has nothing to do with the accusation you made, which is that atheists have taken control of the US education system. That remains patently false. Just because you don't have the theocratic dictatorship you imagine you'd want doesn't mean atheists are in control of anything.
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I'll give you one example of several. Atheists control the science curricula which excludes the teaching of creationism in favor of secular atheistic nonsense.
 
maquiscat said:
You quite specifically said:



Are you then saying that in that second category, those who think God is right are still wrong in thinking that science contradicts the Bible? If so then shouldn't there be a third, maybe fourth, group, that thinks that science does not contradict, or even supports (the potential 4th group) the Bible?
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Evolution definitely contradicts the Bible.
 
maquiscat said:
Since what is disrespectful will be a subjective value, how do you make this objective? Sure it's objectively disrespectful by your standards, but not necessarily by others. According to some churches (typically the more fundamentalist types), it's disrespectful to God to be baptized in any church other than theirs, since theirs is the only true Christian Church.
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It is disrespectful to God and to Christians to suggest or imply that God is a myth.
 
maquiscat said:
Given that, then the Founding Fathers were of the Left and Communists since they specifically separated out religion from government.
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Christianity had a definite and deep impact on the founding of America.

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marke said:
It is disrespectful to God and to Christians to suggest or imply that God is a myth.
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It is disrespectful to Goddess and to Wiccans to suggest or imply that Goddess is a myth. So what's your point?

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i wish more people acted like actual Christians instead of using religion to sell hate.


there has to be a special place in hell for those people.
 
marke said:
Evolution definitely contradicts the Bible.
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No it doesn't. In fact the progress of historical evolution tracks right alongside the order of creature creation in the Bible. The only part that doesn't line up is man, which we do have a evolution gap for. There is nothing that contradicts the idea of God creating the universe via the Big Bang, and all creatures through evolution. After all the measurement by which human judge a day wasn't created until the third creation day, so it is logical to assume that such are God's days, which can be for millions of years or more.

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marke said:
Christianity had a definite and deep impact on the founding of America.

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Which has nothing to do with my response to Acadia's assertion that the "Left" is attempting to have government replace religion. After all, the Founding Father's firmly separated religion from the government. By Acadia's logic, that means they were replacing religion with government since religion could no longer, legally, govern.

As to your supposed Washington quote, "George was a great General, but a dick and religious moron" - Thomas Jefferson

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CaughtInThe said:
i wish more people acted like actual Christians instead of using religion to sell hate.


there has to be a special place in hell for those people.
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Actually most Christians do, but since they aren't up in your face, you don't notice them like you do the ones like marke.

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