Chinese death penalty

[jamesrage]

You don't want to help people because they won't be grateful? Europe has a seeming incurable superiority complex, yes, but what happened when no one moved to stop the Kaiser in WWI at the beginning, and then Hitler in WWII? We wait, and wait, until it gets so out of hand that we have to do something. Why do we always have to wait until we have to? What can't we deal with it now?

You make a good point.Strategically that is a good point.Wars that are fought too soon cost us less lives that wars fought late.

That fact is, history has shown us that when we stay out of other countries business, it eventually becomes our business.

Excellent point.I just wish these other countries would actually chip in with more than just a 100-1000 troops.

 

[-Demosthenes-]

Reviewing the thread, it seems that you were defending the death penalty (in a round about way) because it was associated with the chinese government. I apoligize if I implied that the death penalty was wrong (that's a seperate disscusion), I meant to strictly speak of the chinese government in my posts.

 

[Australianlibertarian]

You do not run China therefore you do not have a right to say what China has a right to do to it's citizens.

Well I suppose we could have said that about Nazi Germany, or the USSR. They were all soverign governments, so we had no right to tell them what is moral.......

:doh

 

[Saboteur]

I had requested that this thread be deleted because I for one did not want anyone else to be scared by the vision of murder you, DD7, have posted here. But I guess it may not happen so I shall have to respond.

Would you like it if I posted pictures of aborted fetus' here?

Do you think that it is funny to post such brutal violence here?

And you who enjoy this thread and support the death penalty....

Do you wish for the United States to adopt this form of execution?

Should our current methods, if they're good enough for you, be televised so that the death of Human Beings can become an example or would it just become dinner time entertainment?

Either way.... Now that I know what kind of 'visual aids' you all masterbate too. I'll make sure to ignore your presence here on this site!

 

[-Demosthenes-]

I had requested that this thread be deleted because I for one did not want anyone else to be scared by the vision of murder you, DD7, have posted here. But I guess it may not happen so I shall have to respond.

Would you like it if I posted pictures of aborted fetus' here?

Do you think that it is funny to post such brutal violence here?

And you who enjoy this thread and support the death penalty....

Do you wish for the United States to adopt this form of execution?

Should our current methods, if they're good enough for you, be televised so that the death of Human Beings can become an example or would it just become dinner time entertainment?

Either way.... Now that I know what kind of 'visual aids' you all masterbate too. I'll make sure to ignore your presence here on this site!

You are certainly allowed to ignore the evils of the world, if you wish. But you should realize that not everyone has the luxury of ignoring these scary things without betraying our morals.

 

[Saboteur]

You are certainly allowed to ignore the evils of the world, if you wish. But you should realize that not everyone has the luxury of ignoring these scary things without betraying our morals.

I am not ignoring the horror, I just think it could be discussed without the pictures.

There are people here who are not 18 years old... Should I start posting examples of pornography here?

Actually I'm surprized there are no pictures of the Chinese harvesting the organs from the fresh bodies.

They do that to the people they kill you know.

Please don't talk to me about ignoring the scary things about this world... I don't.

The ignoring I was planning on doing was the forum members here who reveled at the sight of these pictures and wished that they were american criminals being executed so they could show them as an example. They think that it would deter crime.

States in our country practice the death penalty already... it doesn't deter crime. The people I am talking about want to watch executions on T.V. while they eat dinner with their kids.... And you have the nerve to defend that while questioning my morals?

 

[jamesrage]

Well I suppose we could have said that about Nazi Germany, or the USSR. They were all soverign governments, so we had no right to tell them what is moral.......

:doh

We won that right to tell them what to do by beating thier ass in war.

 

[DD7]

Must be dirt cheap to just shoot them and harvest their organs.

There's just too much waste of taxpayers money in America.

 

[RecoveringPunk]

We won that right to tell them what to do by beating thier *** in war.

Please tell me you're just putting on some bravado routine as a joke, and that you think that it's funny? Do you honestly believe that no one should stick up for human rights violations in foreign countries?

Look what's going on in Sudan right now. Like half a million people have died in the last year or two because of a cultural genocide. Is that ok? Is that none of our business?

 

[jamesrage]

Please tell me you're just putting on some bravado routine as a joke, and that you think that it's funny?

It is no joke.

Do you honestly believe that no one should stick up for human rights violations in foreign countries?

Apparently lots of liberals think we should not stick up for human rights in foreign countries.Look at Iraq.SOme think we are violating their sovernty and Saddam's right to rule his country with a brutal Iron fist.the death of all those Iraqis wo died under Saddam mean nothing to them.

Look what's going on in Sudan right now. Like half a million people have died in the last year or two because of a cultural genocide. Is that ok?

Of course not.If we want to do something about it then we should go over there and stomp a mudhole in their leader's ***.We should defeat and execute the leader of that country and impliment our laws.

Is that none of our business?

It is our business if we can do something about it.Standing on the sideline whining is not doing something about it.

 

[RecoveringPunk]

Good! I'm glad we're on the same page. Now, here's the only point I want to get across. Yes, Saddam was a plague on his country. However, we need to prioritize. North Korea is a bigger threat to us, and Sudan's leaders are a bigger threat to it's population. Now, why did we go to Iraq before these other places?

 

[cnredd]

Good! I'm glad we're on the same page. Now, here's the only point I want to get across. Yes, Saddam was a plague on his country. However, we need to prioritize. North Korea is a bigger threat to us, and Sudan's leaders are a bigger threat to it's population. Now, why did we go to Iraq before these other places?

Simple...

Because what you've just stated is your opinion and nothing more...

Member A might think we should go to Iraq...
Member B might think we should go to Iran...
Member C might think we should go to North Korea...
Member D might think we should go to none of these places...
Member E might think we should go to all of these places...

Well?...Guess who actually makes those decisions?...That's right...The elected person in office...The chief muckity muck...

As long as that old, crusty piece of parchment is still in effect(which it is) and the President has consent from Congress(which was done), then he(or for future reference, "she") has the power to make that decision...

The decision was made...To say "we should do this instead" is nice, but until you're in a position which gives you the authority to make what you believe are higher priorities, then what you think is exactly that...what you think...not what happens...

 

[RecoveringPunk]

Cnredd, always a pleasure to have your input. However, you completely mistook my statement. Obviously, i'm not the one making decisions in this country. So, I'm not trying to get everyone to go "Gee, we should have gone to Sudan". I'm just trying to get a direct answer from these pro-war people on why we went to Iraq instead of Sudan or North Korea first. The President tried to, but his story seemed to change every couple of months for a while. Now, henever I bring up the question to conservatives, they completely avoid answering the question. I'm not playing "guess what I'm thinking", either. I honestly have no idea. I was just hoping someone could clear it up for me.

 

[Willoughby]

Europe has a seeming incurable superiority complex

thats a little strange coming from an american!

 

[nostalgia]

I am so scared to see these pictures.It makes me think so much of death penalty.To kill a another person is so cruel .

 

[jamesrage]

I am so scared to see these pictures.It makes me think so much of death penalty.To kill a another person is so cruel .

Don't you think it is cruel for someone to murder someone? Don't you think it is also cruel to tell the victim's family that they get to help support the rat who murdered their love one for the rest of his life?
Sympathy and empathy should be for the victims and their families not for the scum who is responsible for the victim's death.Put your self in the victim and victim's families shoes not the murderer's.

 

[rhinefire]

I believe it to be true that China charges the family for the price of the bullet used to kill them.

 

[Mendacious]

I believe it to be true that China charges the family for the price of the bullet used to kill them.

So does Russia. When they execute someone, the condemned has no idea when his time comes. Just one day his cell is opened, he is told he has visitors or something along those lines to keep him calm, as they march him down the corridor they will suddenly take him into a room that has a sloped floor with a drain in the bottom, he is forced to his knees and a Makarov 9mm is placed to the back of his head and he is shot.

 

[rhinefire]

I read one they (the Chinsee) used put put people in specially designed cells, then shove raw meat in the butts and have rats eat their way inside them. That's worse than looking at Rosie O'Donnell.

 

[Atlas Europa]

A Chinese friend of mine sent me pictures of an execution in china; it was very interesting to see.

I never knew an AK-47's 7.62 × 39 mm bullet at close range shooting directly to the back of the head makes you head literally explode, nothing above the nose was left. There was no brain tissue on the floor so I concluded that it was thrown forwards with the rest of the upper part of the skull.

The person would have died instantly.

Lethal injections still takes some time to kill the person and I imagine there is pain.

 

[Edify_Always_In_All_Ways]

Don't you think it is cruel for someone to murder someone? Don't you think it is also cruel to tell the victim's family that they get to help support the rat who murdered their love one for the rest of his life?
Sympathy and empathy should be for the victims and their families not for the scum who is responsible for the victim's death.Put your self in the victim and victim's families shoes not the murderer's.

That's why murderers should work for at least a decade in prison, while the money goes to the victim's family. Why give them so much room to appeal?

And why does someone who did something bad once deserve to be killed for it? Do you have something against second chances? Or forgiveness?