Chinese Admiral threatens to sink two US aircraft carriers, killing 10,000 sailors

[OscarLevant]

Here we go into WW111

Thanks a lot, Trump.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wo-aircraft-carriers-kill-10-000-sailors.html

We'll see how frightened America is': Admiral warns U.S. that China's navy could sink two aircraft carriers and kill 10,000 sailors if it stands in way of Beijing's goals in South China Sea

 

[Hawkeye10]

Here we go into WW111

Thanks a lot, Trump.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wo-aircraft-carriers-kill-10-000-sailors.html

The the way to defeat America is to cause as many casualties as fast as they can because the American society is now soft and unwilling to tolerate high levels of human life lost....that we dont believe in anything enough to put up with that anymore.....is not a new idea.

It also has nothing to do with Trump.

 

[Chillfolks]

How is this Trumps fault?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

This has been going on for years.

 

[straykatz]

China - the sleeping giant who has quietly been taking over the world and we gave them the goods/means to do it.

 

[Roadvirus]

Here we go into WW111

Thanks a lot, Trump.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wo-aircraft-carriers-kill-10-000-sailors.html

It isn't Trump threatening WW3. It's Chinese Admiral ****face.

If China's leaders had brains, they'd 86 this loser before he does something stupid and put China in America's crosshairs.

 

[Rogue Valley]

The Admiral is posturing. China doesn't yet have the military acumen/depth to challenge the US with kinetic warfare.

 

[JANFU]

This has been going on for years.

China will eventually lay claim to the SC Sea.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Admiral is posturing. China doesn't yet have the military acumen/depth to challenge the US with kinetic warfare.

So-called Western Military Experts are accumulating a record for being wrong about global military matters....you best not hang your hat on them!

 

[Tom Horn]

How is China going to feed itself with all shipping into its ports stopped?

 

[jnug]

It isn't Trump threatening WW3. It's Chinese Admiral ****face.

If China's leaders had brains, they'd 86 this loser before he does something stupid and put China in America's crosshairs.

Hmmmmm....I could make the same case for us and Donald. Just sayin'

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

I started reading that Daily Mail article but then got distracted and clicked on the side link to "Padma Lakshmi looks fabulous in bikini."

It's hard to imagine she used to be married to Salman Rushdie.

I don't trust the Daily Mail. But China has been way out of line regarding the South China Sea. Their claims are just ridiculous. It's worth standing up to them. I doubt they want to go to war over it. It's would be idiotic and they're not stupid.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

The the way to defeat America is to cause as many casualties as fast as they can because the American society is now soft and unwilling to tolerate high levels of human life lost....that we dont believe in anything enough to put up with that anymore.....is not a new idea.

Apparently you have forgotten 9/12.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

The the way to defeat America is to cause as many casualties as fast as they can because the American society is now soft and unwilling to tolerate high levels of human life lost....that we dont believe in anything enough to put up with that anymore.....is not a new idea.

It also has nothing to do with Trump.

Odd thing for a Zen Socialist to say.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Here we go into WW111
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wo-aircraft-carriers-kill-10-000-sailors.html

Rear Admiral F*** Nuts is speaking way above his pay grade and far beyond China's actual capabilities.

 

[PleasantValley]

I started reading that Daily Mail article but then got distracted and clicked on the side link to "Padma Lakshmi looks fabulous in bikini."

It's hard to imagine she used to be married to Salman Rushdie.

I don't trust the Daily Mail. But China has been way out of line regarding the South China Sea. Their claims are just ridiculous. It's worth standing up to them. I doubt they want to go to war over it. It's would be idiotic and they're not stupid.

I agree, my friend.
That little misunderstanding we had with the Chinese in Korea was totally preventable.
I have never seen China as our enemy. We have a much longer history of cooperation with them than animosity.
Our ASW (Anti-submarine) capabilities are head and shoulders above theirs.
Our ship's damage control is far superior than anyone's. This is why our ships have taken hits, but still were kept afloat.

China may be communist now, but they are far from the hard core communism they were back in the 50's.

but....(pulling my tin foil hat down on my head tight)...but...Mt. Etna DID erupt on December 26th, 2018, signalling another major world issue a few weeks later.

The last time Mt. Etna erupted, 9/11 happened a few weeks later.
When I saw it happening at that time, I brought all my kids to the TV and told them something bad would be happening very soon.
It did.

Gold was $320 and ounce. I bought 12 one ounce coins then. Sold all 12 when it reached $1,000 an ounce.

We WILL be experiencing some kind of major world issue soon, because of Mt. Etna erupting on Dec 26th. I just don't know if this is it or not.
but it IS going to happen soon.

Mt. Etna is your gauge.

 

[OscarLevant]

The the way to defeat America is to cause as many casualties as fast as they can because the American society is now soft and unwilling to tolerate high levels of human life lost....that we dont believe in anything enough to put up with that anymore.....is not a new idea.

It also has nothing to do with Trump.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Trump. China and Russia see that Trump is weak, and the are testing him.

 

[OscarLevant]

It isn't Trump threatening WW3. It's Chinese Admiral ****face.

If China's leaders had brains, they'd 86 this loser before he does something stupid and put China in America's crosshairs.

They perceive Trump as weak, and they are testing him. It has everything to do with Trump.

They see Trump denigrating our military leaders, they see that as weak, because no way in holy hell would a chinese
leader do that about one of it's own military brass. Trump's epic buffoonery has led to this climate where a chinese admiral would be so adventurous to say something like that.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

It has EVERYTHING to do with Trump. China and Russia see that Trump is weak, and the are testing him.

I'm pretty sure they've also figured out that he's unstable and dangerous. They'll just wait for him to leave office to make a push.

I do think that their obsession with Taiwan, Tibet and the South China Sea is silly.

 

[OscarLevant]

I started reading that Daily Mail article but then got distracted and clicked on the side link to "Padma Lakshmi looks fabulous in bikini."

It's hard to imagine she used to be married to Salman Rushdie.

I don't trust the Daily Mail. But China has been way out of line regarding the South China Sea. Their claims are just ridiculous. It's worth standing up to them. I doubt they want to go to war over it. It's would be idiotic and they're not stupid.

The quote is on a few clips from various news orgs, I just quoted the first website that had the same quote. It's not just daily mail news.

 

[Hawkeye10]

They perceive Trump as weak, and they are testing him. It has everything to do with Trump.

They see Trump denigrating our military leaders, they see that as weak, because no way in holy hell would a chinese
leader do that about one of it's own military brass. Trump's epic buffoonery has led to this climate where a chinese admiral would be so adventurous to say something like that.

It has nothing to do with Trump, this is our future enemy telling us that they think that we have made a fundamental mistake by still having the carriers be the backbone of our military strategy....they are projecting confidence because that is what peoples do before they go to war.

THe really sad/scary thing is that they might be right:

There is a considerable amount of inertia behind the carrier program in the United States. In a recent article about China’s DF-21D Time magazine quoted retired Navy Captain naval-strategist Bernard Cole explaining how our Navy, domestic industry, and politicians all have a deep-rooted interest in keeping carriers as the centerpiece of our naval strategy. Indeed, these behemoths have accompanied us during the entirety of our rise to military preeminence. However, our close relationship with the carrier has its drawbacks. Historically, one advantage that developing militaries have is that they get to base their doctrine and fighting methods on current technology in the relative absence of entrenched interests. Conversely, consider the damage that obsolete ideas of warfare wrought during the beginning of World War One. Hundreds of thousands of soldiers died before the major European militaries were able to shed themselves of their dogmatic doctrine and antiquated leadership. If aircraft carriers are being eclipsed by various A2/AD weapons systems and asymmetric strategies, the military-industrial inertia behind the carrier program is a strategic disadvantage to the United States.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/imagine-what-if-china-sunk-navy-aircraft-carrier-31847




EDIT: They also say this:

The U.S. public is not conditioned to enduring high amounts of casualties. The last time commensurate numbers of U.S. troops died in a single military engagement was in 1950 during the Korean War. Knowing that, what would be the reaction if a U.S. carrier were attacked and sunk?

 

[JustHanging]

The Admiral is posturing. China doesn't yet have the military acumen/depth to challenge the US with kinetic warfare.

Yeah, but Trump is too lazy to put in the time or effort to know about China or Americas military might or possible strategies. If Trump does anything, it will be what he always does in such a situation: Tweet and say whatever the thinks his base wants him to tweet and say. Trump never actually does anything, he's demonstrated he is almost certainly a coward at heart. Hell, he's too cowardly to even fire people himself.

Undoubtedly China knows this, and are likely trying to elicit a specific response from Trump.

 

[DiAnna]

I for one am not going to start digging a fallout shelter based on the Daily Mail; looks like both countries have their own lunatics to reign in. Unfortunately, our lunatic is the president.

 

[Athanasius68]

They perceive Trump as weak, and they are testing him. It has everything to do with Trump.

They see Trump denigrating our military leaders, they see that as weak, because no way in holy hell would a chinese
leader do that about one of it's own military brass. Trump's epic buffoonery has led to this climate where a chinese admiral would be so adventurous to say something like that.

China took advantage of the weakness of the Obama Admin and built up its military in the South China Sea during those years. The reason why this admiral is going bananas is because the Trump admin is contesting, militarily, their claims. Which is a far stronger reaction than China received from President Obama.

 

[Athanasius68]

It has nothing to do with Trump, this is our future enemy telling us that they think that we have made a fundamental mistake by still having the carriers be the backbone of our military strategy....they are projecting confidence because that is what peoples do before they go to war.

THe really sad/scary thing is that they might be right:


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/imagine-what-if-china-sunk-navy-aircraft-carrier-31847




EDIT: They also say this:

These guys are questioning career USA military officers and longstanding doctrine?
They must be stooges of Putin.