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China signals opening for trade talks with US

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China signals opening for trade talks with US

State media message suggests softening of Beijing’s position, say analysts
www.ft.com


Chinese state media has said there would be “no harm” in holding trade talks with the Trump administration, indicating a softening of Beijing’s position as both sides look for a way out of their crushing tariff war.
The gesture comes as Trump has indicated he hopes to negotiate over trade and as the fallout has begun to show in China’s economic data, with factory activity in April dropping the most since 2023 as export orders dried up.

Yuyuan Tantian, an account affiliated with state broadcaster CCTV, said in a social media post on China’s Weibo platform on Thursday that Beijing did not need to talk to the US before Washington took substantive action.“But if the US wishes to engage with China, there’s no harm in it for China at this stage,” it said.


Analysts said the language represented a softening of Beijing’s position from last week when the commerce ministry indicated the US would need to drop its steep levies on China before negotiations could begin.

Andrew Polk, co-founder of Trivium China, an advisory group, said the post seemed “to be laying the groundwork to come to the table”.“By painting the US as the more eager, more anxious, more pressured party they are trying to portray themselves as coming from a place of strength,” he said. “This should play well with the domestic audience and give them cover to start negotiations.”
 
China may just have to be the adult in the room and lead the world out of this clusterf*ck because Trump doesn’t care how much he hurts Americans.

 
China is hurting.
They are having labor protests because factories are shutting down.
 
China knows they are between a rock and a hard place.

Trump knew they would start talking about making a deal.
 
America is pretend 'hurting' while China is really hurting. Anybody in the know can see this. America has all the leverage because the trade is so one sided. Trump will end up on top but it's in everybody's interest to let all sides save face because this will drive a quicker resolution.
 
Protests by workers demanding back wages are spreading across China in a sign of growing discontent among millions suffering the brunt of factory closures, triggered by steep U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports amid an economic downturn.

Across the country – from Hunan province’s Dao county in central China to Sichuan’s Suining city in the southwest and Inner Mongolia’s Tongliao city to the northeast – hundreds of disgruntled workers have taken to the streets to protest about unpaid wages and to challenge unfair dismissals by factories that were forced to shut due to the U.S. tariffs.

Protests by unpaid Chinese workers spread amid factory closures

Workers demand back wages from companies impacted by steep U.S. tariffs and an economic slowdown in China.
www.rfa.org
 
BirdinHand said:
China may just have to be the adult in the room and lead the world out of this clusterf*ck because Trump doesn’t care how much he hurts Americans.

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Do you really want to keep having a $300 billion trade deficit with China? That's $300 billion of our money supporting their military, buying their weapons to use against Taiwan - or us!
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Do you really want to keep having a $300 billion trade deficit with China? That's $300 billion of our money supporting their military, buying their weapons to use against Taiwan - or us!
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I don’t care about the trade deficit. I care about my dollar going further.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Do you really want to keep having a $300 billion trade deficit with China? That's $300 billion of our money supporting their military, buying their weapons to use against Taiwan - or us!
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I brought this up several times over the past week. It doesn't seem to concern the progressives.
 
Slartibartfast said:
I don’t care about the trade deficit. I care about my dollar going further.
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On the backs of forced labor funding a military, that we may face some day. A country launching cyber attacks on a daily basis.
 
BirdinHand said:
China may just have to be the adult in the room and lead the world out of this clusterf*ck because Trump doesn’t care how much he hurts Americans.

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Every day China announces another trade deal signed with somebody other than the United States, meanwhile Donald waits for a call. And our local MAGA here somehow think “hundreds protest in a nation of over 1.4 billion people” = China is hurting, oblivious to the fact that China exports to the US is some 2% of their GDP because they frankly don’t care about the US market since their own policy is to shift to service their own massive domestic market.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Do you really want to keep having a $300 billion trade deficit with China? That's $300 billion of our money supporting their military, buying their weapons to use against Taiwan - or us!
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I don’t want to pay $100 for a pair of sneakers my kid is going to outgrow in 6 months

I don’t want to pay $80 for a pair of wireless headphones that I’m going to send into school for him to use in class…and perhaps never see again.

I don’t want to pay $45 for goggles for him use for swimming in the summer and lose and/or have picked up by another kid.

So…I don’t give a flying monkeys ass about a trade deficit.

And my kid isn’t growing up to work in some sweatshop sewing sneakers or gluing together plastic stuff as an adult.

You want to do that sort of thing for a living, go right ahead.


This tariff war is sheer stupidity.
 
15% of exports from China go to the US. Double the next closest.
 
phoenix2020 said:
Cool MAGA or whatever but what does that have to do with my post?
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You're not worth the effort if you can't see it.
Calling me MAGA confirms your simple binary thinking.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Do you really want to keep having a $300 billion trade deficit with China? That's $300 billion of our money supporting their military, buying their weapons to use against Taiwan - or us!
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1) The money goes to Chinese companies, not the military.

2) Trade isn't a one way benefit, it's a two way benefit.

3) A trade deficit isn't lost money. We get goods in exchange, which are worth more than the money, that's why we buy them.

4) US consumers and companies choose to buy Chinese goods. The deficit reflects voluntary market behavior, not any sort of hostile act.
 
L88 said:
You're not worth the effort if you can't see it.
Calling me MAGA confirms your simple binary thinking.
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Wait, why would anyone consider conversing with you to be worth the effort? You’re just reprinting talking points that the media gave you, with no investigation, interpretation nor critical thought. Frankly speaking it’s more efficient for us to simply go to the source since it’s not like you will offer us anything that Fox or AM Radio aren’t already saying far more eloquently than you ever could.
 
What does your post have to do with this thread?

You're assuming with pure ignorance.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and very comfortable with that.
 

Oh and I did use a radio source link earlier in the thread. Jump on that.
 
L88 said:
15% of exports from China go to the US. Double the next closest.
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70% of all shoes in the US come from China.

You buy a kid shoes anytime lately?

It’s like $50- 60 for a pair of decent sneakers (mid-brand like Adidas)

145% tariff on a pair of $60 sneakers makes a single pair of sneakers $87.

And kids outgrow sneakers fast, so it’s not like you can buy a pair and have them last…



And that’s just ONE item where the majority of the entire US supply chain is from China.

This tariff war is stupid and had ZERO thought process behind it.
 
We're 37 trillion in national debt. 18 trillion in consumer debt. Nobody twisted our arms, rather we choose to build up that debt over decades by trading foreign goods and services for debt instruments like bonds and T-bills. Debt is a future obligation. Let not pretend that money doesn't buy political influence even for China. Use the Democratic party as an example.
 

I'm not a real fan of the overall world trade war.
But regardless of what anybody else is saying in this thread they are funding their military with export dollars.
In addition you're concerned with some pretty serious first world problems.
My parents never bought any shoes that were made in china.
 
L88 said:
My parents never bought any shoes that were made in china.
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Well, we aren’t living in your parents world. We are living in 2025.


Jesus, I don’t think I’ve read a post that dumb in a while - and there’s a lot of dumb shit posted here.
 
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