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China launches humiliation campaign



30 years ago a company i worked at ( before I started) dumped chemical waste in the back of the property

The ground water still shows as contaminated 30 years later with Triallate being one of the major chemicals. It was not on site for 15 years and still shows up.

This is a site in the middle of a major city

Rural communities have it worse. A reservation in northern Ontario has its drinking water contaminated with mercury I believe from a pulp and paper mill dumping its waste in a river
 

Working smarter does not include elimination of rules that protect workers safety and the environment. Common sense doesn’t tell us that safety regulations are preventing us from working smarter. Safety is smarter. Protecting the environment is smarter. Throwing out smart rules is not common sense at all. Sacrificing the health and welfare of workers is not smarter or common sense at all. You have a strange belief about what common sense is or its magical powers to fix everything.
 

Unfortunately we do need rules and laws because people tend to do what is expedient and doesn’t hurt their bottom line. We need to appropriately manage all companies because all of them have demonstrated they will cross the line ate every opportunity that they get. Lawyers get rich because businesses are not trustworthy and never will be ju less forced into it. Not sure why you think that blind faith in the goodness of business people will work out when it historically never has to any extent at all. Regulations have come about for this very reasons. The bad actions have always led to the regulations. Regulations don’t just pop up for no reason or because government just feels like imposing them. When too many idiots stick their hands where they shouldn’t go and get hurt, regulations are sure to follow.
 
If we go through our set of laws we would probably say that they're all good common sense ideas. There's nothing earth shattering about it. The real problem is the laws are written for every single case, it's like the lowest common denominator. It cost money just to ensure laws don't apply to your situation so you can be in the clear. It's a trade off - we have a giant legal system that sucks billions out of society and we're not safer nor healthier than anybody else.
 
dmpi said:
and we're not safer nor healthier than anybody else.
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You want to stick with that comment? Maybe try working in places like China and India, not to mention N Korea or Malaysia or Honduras or Venezuela or Myanmar or Pakistan or Ecuador or................. well, need I go on?
 

We’re not talking about silk flowers and bicycles here. We’re talking about sophisticated, advanced technologies like EVs, GPUs, and Elon’s robots that are increasingly being produced in highly-automated plants. We’re also talking about the cutting-edge technologies of tomorrow. If the U.S. is to remain a world superpower, it needs to be a place where we make stuff and not just trade crypto tokens. It can’t run annual current account trade deficits in the trillions of dollars indefinitely without eventually becoming the butt of jokes.

The question is should we have to compete even in our own market with state-owned corporations subsidized by foreign governments that never have to turn a profit and operate under minimal regulations? That are sheltered with tariffs and non-tariff barriers to entry in their home markets so they can gut competition in ours? Should “free trade” always be a one-way street? I don’t think so.
 
craig said:
Made in 1976 by Magnavox. Cost $400 ($2238 today).

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The Japanese licensed television technology from the United States. They also sheltered their own market, subsidized their manufacturers, and dumped TVs into ours. Japan basically destroyed an industry that we pioneered. If we let it, China will do the same thing to our auto industry that it’s done to other American industries since it joined the WTO.
 


And Japans tv industry is nearly dead replaced by South Korea at the top end and China at the low end.

That China is good at manufacturing should not be a surprise

It was dominate before the Industrial Revolution, and now it has world class infrastructure to make it efficient at manufacturing logistics and skilled labor
 
Start with convincing Midwest Americans to give up buying the cheap plastic fantastic Chinese goods at their local Walmart.
 
Safety regulations are written in blood. Don't get rid of rules that people died for.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Start with convincing Midwest Americans to give up buying the cheap plastic fantastic Chinese goods at their local Walmart.
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The plastic kitchen utensils sold at Walmart aren’t the problem.

 
Lycanthrope said:
Thabk goodness plastic kitchen utensils are the only Chinese goods Americans buy at Walmart.
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Call me when Walmart starts selling EVs, high-end AI servers, factory automation equipment, machine tools, windmills, telecommunications and network switching equipment….
 
Lycanthrope said:
Start with convincing Midwest Americans to give up buying the cheap plastic fantastic Chinese goods at their local Walmart.
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Midwest?

The midwest has the strongest manufacturing output per capita of any region. We make shit.
 
They manufacture logistics?
 
dmpi said:
What happened to the concept of work smarter, not harder? 'Smarter' in America's case is get rid of all the unnecessary rules, regulations, lawsuits, etc and to depend on common sense instead.
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So, go back to things like the Triangle Shirtwaist fire?

No thanks.
 

The legal system is not the cause of anything. The legal system is needed because companies cannot be trusted to provide safe work environments. Common sense tells us that employers will try to get away with as much as they can in regard to the harmful effects of what they do to employees and the environment. Because common sense tells us that operating safely is more costly and the profit motive is so strong that when they can get away with it they will do harm as long as they can.
 
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