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China and Germany heading for superpower status as U.S. influence wanes, says Putin

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Thats what all analysts say, while China rises as the antagonist in the east, Germany has taken the seat as leader of the free world, while US international influence completly collapsed under Trump


MOSCOW (Reuters) - The era when the United States and Russia decided the world's most important questions is in the past, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday, saying China and Germany were now heading for superpower status.

Addressing a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club, Putin suggested that the role of the United States had waned, along with that of Britain and France, while Beijing and Berlin - in terms of political and economic weight -- were heading for superpower status.

If Washington was not prepared to discuss global problems with Moscow, Russia stood ready to have that discussion with other nations, said Putin, who was speaking via video link.

He said Washington could no longer lay claim to exceptionalism and questioned why it would want to.

Ahead of the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 3, Putin said he hoped the new administration would be ready for dialogue on security and nuclear arms control.

Washington last week rejected a Russian proposal for an unconditional one-year extension of the last treaty limiting U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear weapons deployment, calling the suggestion "a non-starter."

The New START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) accord, signed in 2010 is due to expire in February. It restricts the numbers of strategic nuclear warheads that Russia and the United States can deploy as well as the missiles and bombers that carry them.

Despite their differences, Moscow and Washington appear to be moving closer to a deal on New START.



(Reporting by Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber and Andrew Osborn; Writing by Alexander Marrow; Editing by Andrew Osborn)
 
Germany's military couldn't fight a dumpster fire, never mind being a world military influence.

We live in the 21st century. There is no need to have a Military, when you are rich as ****, control an entire continent and are a world leading Industrial power.
 
Thats what all analysts say, while China rises as the antagonist in the east, Germany has taken the seat as leader of the free world, while US international influence completly collapsed under Trump


MOSCOW (Reuters) - The era when the United States and Russia decided the world's most important questions is in the past, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday, saying China and Germany were now heading for superpower status.

Addressing a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club, Putin suggested that the role of the United States had waned, along with that of Britain and France, while Beijing and Berlin - in terms of political and economic weight -- were heading for superpower status.

If Washington was not prepared to discuss global problems with Moscow, Russia stood ready to have that discussion with other nations, said Putin, who was speaking via video link.

He said Washington could no longer lay claim to exceptionalism and questioned why it would want to.

Ahead of the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 3, Putin said he hoped the new administration would be ready for dialogue on security and nuclear arms control.

Washington last week rejected a Russian proposal for an unconditional one-year extension of the last treaty limiting U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear weapons deployment, calling the suggestion "a non-starter."

The New START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) accord, signed in 2010 is due to expire in February. It restricts the numbers of strategic nuclear warheads that Russia and the United States can deploy as well as the missiles and bombers that carry them.

Despite their differences, Moscow and Washington appear to be moving closer to a deal on New START.



(Reporting by Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber and Andrew Osborn; Writing by Alexander Marrow; Editing by Andrew Osborn)
Now you like Putin?

LOL!!
 
We live in the 21st century. There is no need to have a Military, when you are rich as ****, control an entire continent and are a world leading Industrial power.
Germany does as it is told by the US
 
Germany does as it is told by the US

We do not.

We blocked evry single US proposal. Iran can sell and buy weapons, because Germany voted against USA in the UNSC just recently.

Btw did USA order us to ban US companies from defense contracts? 😅

I loved it when your fat foreign minister cried that Germany constantly counters US politics.
 
We do not.

We blocked evry single US proposal. Iran can sell and buy weapons, because Germany voted against USA in the UNSC just recently.

Btw did USA order us to ban US companies from defense contracts? 😅

I loved it when your fat foreign minister cried that Germany constantly counters US politics.
We allow you some minor freedoms.


Try to build a real army and we will smack you down like we did twice before
 
We live in the 21st century. There is no need to have a Military, when you are rich as ****, control an entire continent and are a world leading Industrial power.

LOL....... do you work hard at making yourself look foolish, or does it just come natural?

Get back to us when the South China Sea becomes the 2nd great wall or some crazy Arab shuts down the Suez.
 
The free-world leadership void left by the effect of Trump's disastrous, nationalistic, Neanderthal Amexit strategy will naturally be filled by others and to a great extent refilled by the US. The US will be no longer be much of unilateral decision-maker in affairs of allies' concerns as before, to whatever extent that was, and be contributing less a share of national treasure and, hopefully, blood. It's the economic world leadership role that America continues to hold and is being balanced by the likes of China and to some extent the EU and, looking forward, India. Economic/financial leadership, most specifically the willingness of countries to invest in another (invest in the US dollar), is less constrained by free-world/authoritarian world boundaries as is military leadership that the EU and India just don’t have nor can if they wish to stay on economic track. IMO, though much more to be said.
 
We do not.

We blocked evry single US proposal. Iran can sell and buy weapons, because Germany voted against USA in the UNSC just recently.

Btw did USA order us to ban US companies from defense contracts? 😅

I loved it when your fat foreign minister cried that Germany constantly counters US politics.

Rostocker:

Your comment is deceiving. Actually Russia and China blocked the renewal of the arms sanctions. Germany just abstained. That is hardly the bold leadership you are painting. Facts matter.

Be well.
Evilroddy.
 
We allow you some minor freedoms.


Try to build a real army and we will smack you down like we did twice before


Some minor freedoms sounds great. It means total oppossition and countercaricature of your foreign political goals.

Dude, USA get it from behind and your orange goon in charge moans from it.

You get ripped off in trade.

We stop evry single foreign initiative you did in last 4 years.

Germany actively isolated the US in the UN, your last stand was with the Domenican republic.

As for the army thing, we need no army. We rule through Machiavellism.

And you did not smack us twice. In WW I you did not play any significant part in. And in WW II you entered when it was already over.

You could not even beat Vietnam, Afghanistan. You are too weak and too soft.

Your enemies start to laugh about you and Putin speaks it out loud.
 
LOL....... do you work hard at making yourself look foolish, or does it just come natural?

Get back to us when the South China Sea becomes the 2nd great wall or some crazy Arab shuts down the Suez.


Why should we get back at you? USA dies as international power.

Putin doesnt make the impression to be foolish. He is a realist. Foreign politics in Europe are made by Berlin. in Asia by Beijing. USA international power started to fall with Bush, under Obama was a decline as well and a total collapse under Trump.

History moves on and we witness that. USA is a thing of the past and we enter a multipolar world. Your enemies realize that as well. Its how Iran or North Korea can keep their course.

USA had not even the power anymore to replace Assad.

You can thank your stupid farmers in Kansas, the pathetic small working class who believed they can keep their status with MAGA. Farmer and working class scum usually is unable to have the intelligence to generate power in the world.

Thats why you are now what you are. Isolated in the world. Incapapble to create politics. Even unable to get a weapon embargo against Iran.
 
Rostocker:

Your comment is deceiving. Actually Russia and China blocked the renewal of the arms sanctions. Germany just abstained. That is hardly the bold leadership you are painting. Facts matter.

Be well.
Evilroddy.


Abstaining means blocking, before Trump, Germany would have sided with the USA in that regard.

But we dont support trump. We would vote for Kim if necessray and if its against trump
 
Some minor freedoms sounds great. It means total oppossition and countercaricature of your foreign political goals.

Dude, USA get it from behind and your orange goon in charge moans from it.

You get ripped off in trade.

We stop evry single foreign initiative you did in last 4 years.

Germany actively isolated the US in the UN, your last stand was with the Domenican republic.

As for the army thing, we need no army. We rule through Machiavellism.

And you did not smack us twice. In WW I you did not play any significant part in. And in WW II you entered when it was already over.

You could not even beat Vietnam, Afghanistan. You are too weak and too soft.

Your enemies start to laugh about you and Putin speaks it out loud.
Germany can't stop a crossing guard. Lol
 
Germany can't stop a crossing guard. Lol


Idk, but we stopped USA on Iran :D

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Germany can't stop a crossing guard. Lol


Btw i like how Iran mocks USA loss regarding that. It was funny to watch when the only ally USA had left was the Domenican republic.

Unfortunately it was not enough to keep the weapon embargo in Iran.


The Islamic Republic heralded the end of the arms embargo as “a momentous day for the international community ... in defiance of the U.S. regime’s effort." The Trump administration, meanwhile, says the expiration is moot since it reimposed all U.N. sanctions on Iran, including the arms embargo, via a clause in the nuclear deal Trump withdrew from in 2018, a claim ignored by the rest of the world.
 
I have no problem with Putin. He is a friend of Germany and speaks fluent German
LOL!!

No. Putin is not your friend...even if he does speak fluent German.
 
Btw i like how Iran mocks USA loss regarding that. It was funny to watch when the only ally USA had left was the Domenican republic.

Unfortunately it was not enough to keep the weapon embargo in Iran.


The Islamic Republic heralded the end of the arms embargo as “a momentous day for the international community ... in defiance of the U.S. regime’s effort." The Trump administration, meanwhile, says the expiration is moot since it reimposed all U.N. sanctions on Iran, including the arms embargo, via a clause in the nuclear deal Trump withdrew from in 2018, a claim ignored by the rest of the world.
That's nice.

Our salvation army could beat Germany. Lol
 
Now Putin won't have his puppet in the WH much longer, he dismisses the USA as no longer a superpower. Ok.
 
That's nice.

Our salvation army could beat Germany. Lol

Then send them. Dont just send empty words. What counts is reality.

I have a hint for you. push your working class scum aside. They are the reason for your collapse on the international scale.

Make it necessary that evryone who votes, has a university degree.
 
LOL!!

No. Putin is not your friend...even if he does speak fluent German.


Putins wold view is quite clear regarding that. He sees it as most easy way to make decissions in Eurasia. make deals with Berlin and Beijing
 
Why should we get back at you? USA dies as international power.

Putin doesnt make the impression to be foolish. He is a realist. Foreign politics in Europe are made by Berlin. in Asia by Beijing. USA international power started to fall with Bush, under Obama was a decline as well and a total collapse under Trump.

History moves on and we witness that. USA is a thing of the past and we enter a multipolar world. Your enemies realize that as well. Its how Iran or North Korea can keep their course.

USA had not even the power anymore to replace Assad.

You can thank your stupid farmers in Kansas, the pathetic small working class who believed they can keep their status with MAGA. Farmer and working class scum usually is unable to have the intelligence to generate power in the world.

Thats why you are now what you are. Isolated in the world. Incapapble to create politics. Even unable to get a weapon embargo against Iran.

Despite all the noise in your head that you call logic, the USA is still dominant to anything Russian or Chinese.

Germany should have sent Angela over to Syria, I'm quite sure she would have put Assad in his place. :ROFLMAO:
 
Despite all the noise in your head that you call logic, the USA is still dominant to anything Russian or Chinese.

Germany should have sent Angela over to Syria, I'm quite sure she would have put Assad in his place. :ROFLMAO:

It is in our interest that Assad stays in power in Syria. So he is right at the place where he should be.

He was supplied with weapons by Germany.

You dont dominate and thats the problem, or infact it was the positive side effect.

Merkel was able to neutralize Trump in the world and block his most harmfull idiocy.

As i said, stupid farmers and workers cant do world politics. Its why the USA felt down, you allowed teh working class scum too much influence. Now others shape the world and if history proves something, its that
lost status never comes back.

Biden might repairt alot, but it will never reach the status USA had before.
 
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