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Imagine the same lineage of chimps being taught sign language for a few hundred years. Im pretty sure almost each new birth would produce a chimp that is more capable of hand signs. Would be interesting to see if a chimps last born is more savy than a chimps first born because perhaps some genetic info from the parents had more time to trickle down as the parent learned and taught. aka how programmable is "passed down" dna for 1 life cycle and does chimp pass more different genetic info at 20% lifecycle compared to and old 80%+ chimp.I know, but as I suggested to Fletch, they deserve a category that, while not human, per se, is definitely above other animals.
There's reasoning:
Study shows chimps capable of insightful reasoning ability
Communication:
The 66 gestures which show how chimpanzees communicate - Telegraph
Communication with humans using ASL:
HowStuffWorks "Chimpanzee Communication"
They're self aware:
Chimps Are Self Aware : Discovery News
And finally, the very foundation one would need for discerning right from wrong:
Big Question: Do animals have a sense of right and wrong? : Discovery Channel
Chimpanzees' rights case argued at New York appeals court hearing - CBS News
Every chimp should go to school and vote in elections and get food stamps and own a gun and be read their miranda rights when being put under arrest
Well, do u want a bunch of chimps running around like monkeys run around India?..
Also, you do realize that all primates can be quite vicious? who are you going to sue when some ape bites your nose off - the government?
So should the mentally disabled not be granted basic rights then? For example, if an individual has down's syndrome and has the mental capacity of a 4 year old as an adult, should they be able to be kept in a cage their entire life and be subject to medical experiments?
Chimpanzees, as well as most whale and dolphin species, elephants, orangutans, and gorillas, are unique in the animal kingdom in that they are self aware, have cultures that they pass down from generation to generation, in most cases mourn their dead, can empathize with other animals and humans, and in the case of elephants, are even capable of creating art (many like to paint). So why would we not grant them some basic rights that we would not grant a lab rat for example? No one is arguing they should be able to vote, enter into contracts, qualify for Social Security, or hold elected office. What is being argued is that a chimpanzee, our closest living relative (in fact we are simply a third chimpanzee species in evolutionary terms), should be granted basic rights such as the right to not be imprisoned in solitary confinement its entire life, the right to not be subjected to crippling medical experiments, basically the right to live the life of a chimpanzee. What is wrong with that?
Chimpanzees' rights case argued at New York appeals court hearing - CBS News
Every chimp should go to school and vote in elections and get food stamps and own a gun and be read their miranda rights when being put under arrest
Yeah well I AM! Steven Wise isn't going far enough!
Knowing the republicans though they'll make polling times difficult to dolphins and make dolphins wait in line for like 12 hours and suggest dolphins to get voter ID that they just can't get for some reason.
Are we ready though for all the illegal alien dolphins from mexico swimming up to our coasts?
We seem to allow chimps to indiscriminately post on the Internet.
I know, but as I suggested to Fletch, they deserve a category that, while not human, per se, is definitely above other animals.
There's reasoning:
Study shows chimps capable of insightful reasoning ability
Communication:
The 66 gestures which show how chimpanzees communicate - Telegraph
Communication with humans using ASL:
HowStuffWorks "Chimpanzee Communication"
They're self aware:
Chimps Are Self Aware : Discovery News
And finally, the very foundation one would need for discerning right from wrong:
Big Question: Do animals have a sense of right and wrong? : Discovery Channel
Chimps are pretty damn smart - just too stupid to be in control of their emotions - especially when drunk or high.
If we start bestowing human rights on chimps we are headed for disaster. We all know how this will end....
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I'm not unsympathetic to the idea of chimp rights, they're our cousins after all, but what about crows?
We know chimps can be really nasty and male aggressiveness is already recorded in our closest species, including the male infanticide. But this goes too far: not only previously thought gentle females are equally aggressive, but it's a common practice to kill and eat the babies of other females.
Imagine the same lineage of chimps being taught sign language for a few hundred years. Im pretty sure almost each new birth would produce a chimp that is more capable of hand signs. Would be interesting to see if a chimps last born is more savy than a chimps first born because perhaps some genetic info from the parents had more time to trickle down as the parent learned and taught. aka how programmable is "passed down" dna for 1 life cycle and does chimp pass more different genetic info at 20% lifecycle compared to and old 80%+ chimp.
If we start bestowing human rights on chimps we are headed for disaster. We all know how this will end....
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Female Chimps Practice Heavily Infanticide and Cannibalism - Softpedia
Animals aren't people. Some people, however, are animals.
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That would work only if
a) through natural selection, the apes themselves selected for superior communication skills, or
b) through artificial selection, we selected for them for superior communication skills.
But through either of those, it would stand to reason that after a few thousand years of this their brains would undergo a dramatic evolution.
And neither of those scenarios is in place or likely to occur in the foreseeable future. If Chimps were prone to pass on signing skills, they'd have already been doing it. They communicate through a wide array of body language already and we haven't seen any discernible refinement of that among chimp populations.
To be fair, it was you who blew it all up, you...you sons of bitches.
By the way, did anyone else have a problem that the final twist of the movie is on the front cover? It would be like showing Bruce Willis as a ghost on the poster for The Sixth Sense.
As a matter of fact we're ALL animals...
Sign language demands a greater vocabulary and, this is the relevant part, a larger and more developed brain to handle. The increased mental capacity is what would be selected for, the language just being a by-product of that intelligence.
I agree. I think the development of language follows development of the brain rather than causing development of the brain in a species.
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