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Chicago's Black Ghetto

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How did you transition from black ghettos to George Zimmerman? Magic wand?
No magic wand needed. It's more like pulling a rabbit out of a hat, except you do it with your ass.
 

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The article puts the Trayvon murder in context with the enforcement used to keep Blacks in the Ghetto.
Yeah, except presicely none of what you quoted from the article is true. He wasn't killed close to home, he wasn't killed by someone who lived close to him. He was "watched" by GZ because he was walking in and out of people's yards and there had been break-ins in the area. And the last little stab at racism in your quote fails as did the case against him.
 

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The article puts the Trayvon murder in context with the enforcement used to keep Blacks in the Ghetto.
Thank you for offering up this article, but while I don't mind reading fantasy sometimes, I prefer the type with Wizards, Warriors, swords and hot chicks with swords. Fell free to offer up links to good fantasy if know of any.
 

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Yeah, except presicely none of what you quoted from the article is true. He wasn't killed close to home, he wasn't killed by someone who lived close to him. He was "watched" by GZ because he was walking in and out of people's yards and there had been break-ins in the area. And the last little stab at racism in your quote fails as did the case against him.
Even the members of the Jury stated that Zimmerman was looking for trouble and found it that night. They didn't convict him of murder simply because there was reasonable doubt to the prosecutor's claim that Zimmerman was not defending himself--Given the way the law was written, a conviction in this instance would have been a travesty.

In short: It was a quirk in Florida law that saved Z. In most states you have to prove you were defending yourself.
 

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Thank you for offering up this article, but while I don't mind reading fantasy sometimes, I prefer the type with Wizards, Warriors, swords and hot chicks with swords. Fell free to offer up links to good fantasy if know of any.
I can't tell if you lack the ability to understand the article and my op or if you are blinded to the argument due to another factor.
 

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Ridiculous thread isn't. Ridiculous assertions too.

That the "White Man'' is somehow complicit in the continued collapse of these inner city areas.

People like Calamity are one of the reasons Ghettos persist.

By perpetuating the victimization false narrative all personal responsibillity can be shifted while the REAL reasons for the existence of these ghettos is ignored.

And the residents and children of these areas continue to suffer.

It's absolutley selfish and serves no positive purpose.

Calamity is part of the problem.
 

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its da white mans fault...

Good lord. And people wonder why the black community at large struggles so much.

Da white man must be keeping black folk down in every major city in the country.
 

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Short answer: Read the article.

Long Answer: Trayvon was shot for venturing out of the Ghetto where his skin color and hoodie marked him as surely as the yellow star marked a Jew venturing out of Warsaw.
What ghetto did Martin come from?
 

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He was hounded by Zimmerman because he was a Black who dared to be walking through his neighborhood at night. Typical sunset rule violation. And, it cost him his life.
Are you intentionally ignorant or do you really not know what happened in that case?
 

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Black people can live wherever they can afford to live. As a Realtor, I'm here to tell you that there is no discrimination against blacks in the housing market. Was there at one time? Yes. Just like there was discrimination against Jews, Italians, Chinese, etc., etc. in our past. But no more.

A young black man faces far more danger walking in his own inner-city neighborhood than anywhere else on the planet -- except perhaps a war zone.
More people die in the inner cities than in war zones.

So there is that.
 

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Ridiculous thread isn't. Ridiculous assertions too.

That the "White Man'' is somehow complicit in the continued collapse of these inner city areas.

People like Calamity are one of the reasons Ghettos persist.

By perpetuating the victimization false narrative all personal responsibillity can be shifted while the REAL reasons for the existence of these ghettos is ignored.

And the residents and children of these areas continue to suffer.

It's absolutley selfish and serves no positive purpose.

Calamity is part of the problem.
Right, and what is your more logical explanation for why these problems persist---that Blacks are more inclined to violence, less civilized or maybe they have sloping foreheads?
 

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Are you intentionally ignorant or do you really not know what happened in that case?
Yeah. Black kid in hoodie walks home from store at dusk, in the rain. Freaked out, not so bright, white guy in SUV, armed with a gun, decides to play cowboy. Shoots kid dead.
 

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What ghetto did Martin come from?
He came from out there and wandered into the sights of a deranged dude named George Zimmerman.
 

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What ghetto did Martin come from?
Martin and Zimmerman both lived in the Chicago ghettos in the 1920s. I think that is the point of this thread.
 

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Right, and what is your more logical explanation for why these problems
persist---that Blacks are more inclined to violence, less civilized or maybe they have sloping foreheads?
Well it comes down to the choices the people that live in thoss ghettos make.

That and the destruction of the black family, and the corruption of that sub-culture.

Blaming the White man is just a guarantee that nothing will change and I know it's what the Democrats want.

A dependent populace is a controlable populace.
 

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Yeah. Black kid in hoodie walks home from store at dusk, in the rain. Freaked out, not so bright, white guy in SUV, armed with a gun, decides to play cowboy. Shoots kid dead.
That is not what ahppened and you know it.

Why did you leave out the black kid attacks security gaurd part?
 

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He came from out there and wandered into the sights of a deranged dude named George Zimmerman.
If you think there is a rash of non-whites killing blacks for simply walking down the Street, please post the links here.

I am sure the media would be all over that.

We all will be waiting.
 

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Martin and Zimmerman both lived in the Chicago ghettos in the 1920s. I think that is the point of this thread.
I guess so.

Did they use the Delorean time machine or the phone booth from Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure to get to the 21st century?
 

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The Black Ghetto on the Southside of Chicago has been a White man created and enforced segregated community since the 1920's.
that was a great article!

completely absent of intelligence, honesty, rationality, or objectivity... but super duper dandy great other than that.
 

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That is not what ahppened and you know it.

Why did you leave out the black kid attacks security gaurd part?
rule # 1 when trying to push an idiots narrative is to never admit facts into the conversation that **** up said narrative.

you'll notice that nearly every Team Trayvon member completely whitewashes the assault( most, like the OP, completely omit it.. as if it never happened).

it's the very thing that made the shooting justifiable, and that ****s up their narrative... which is why they can't be honest.
 

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That is not what ahppened and you know it.

Why did you leave out the black kid attacks security gaurd part?
What security guard? Did Fox news tell you Zimmerman was a security guard?
 

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If you think there is a rash of non-whites killing blacks for simply walking down the Street, please post the links here.

I am sure the media would be all over that.

We all will be waiting.
A rash of non-whites killing blacks. What the hell? There's thousands of those. THe author of the article cited in the op alludes to it.
 

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What security guard? Did Fox news tell you Zimmerman was a security guard?
Of course not. Martins friend, the girl, said Cracker means security gaurd so if she said it did, then he believed it too.

Did you watch anything that happened, or did you just believe everything MSNBC told you?
 

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A rash of non-whites killing blacks. What the hell? There's thousands of those. THe author of the article cited in the op alludes to it.
Please post some links here.
 

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How did you transition from black ghettos to George Zimmerman? Magic wand?
They are kind of linked though don't you think? At least in terms of the suspicion that GZ characterized TM as a threat based on his appearance.
 
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