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AUSTIN, Texas - A bill approved by the state House to ban bawdy cheerleading routines apparently isn't going anywhere in the Senate this year. The legislation prohibits "overtly sexually suggestive" cheerleading routines at school events and gives the state education chief the authority to ask school districts to review performances. It does not define sexually suggestive.

The House approved the legislation May 3 and sent it to the Senate Education Committee, where it is expected to die.

"We have some very important work to do in the next two weeks, and that's not one of them," Republican state Sen. Florence Shapiro, who chairs the education committee, said Friday.

Democratic Rep. Al Edwards, the bill's sponsor, has argued that sexually suggestive cheerleading exhibitions are a distraction that results in pregnancies, dropouts and the contraction of AIDS and herpes.

Shapiro said the problem needs to be handled by parents and school districts, not the Legislature.

But Edwards vowed to bring it up in the future.

"If there's anybody who thinks there's not a problem with the way our young folks are performing ... then they've been somewhere with their head in the sand," he said.
I am not sure, I think that it's not a BAD law per say as nothing is being done about the kids that do indeed dance provocatively. It's mearly a suggestion. What is so wrong with that?
 

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I am not sure, I think that it's not a BAD law per say as nothing is being done about the kids that do indeed dance provocatively. It's mearly a suggestion. What is so wrong with that?
Texas has enough problems to attend to that they don't need to be wasting time on legislation, like this. But it does show why we are at the bottom for education.

Here is the bill: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/79R/billtext/HB01476I.HTM

79R6335 BDH-D

By: Edwards H.B. No. 1476


A BILL TO BE ENTITLED


AN ACT


relating to regulation of sexually suggestive performances at
certain public school events.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter D, Chapter 33, Education Code, is
amended by adding Section 33.088 to read as follows:
Sec. 33.088. SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE PERFORMANCES PROHIBITED.
(a) A school dance team, drill team, cheerleading team, or similar
performance group may not perform in a sexually suggestive manner
at an athletic or other extracurricular event or competition
sponsored or approved by a school district or campus.
(b) A school performance group that violates Subsection (a)
may not perform for the remainder of the school year in which the
violation occurs.
(c) If the commissioner determines that a school district or
a campus in a school district knowingly permits a sexually
suggestive performance prohibited by Subsection (a) or knowingly
permits a school performance group to perform in violation of
Subsection (b), the commissioner shall reduce the funding the
district receives under Chapter 42 by an amount the commissioner
determines appropriate.
SECTION 2. This Act takes effect immediately if it receives
a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as
provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this
Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this
Act takes effect September 1, 2005.


A couple of questions on this.

Whom is the commissioner? Does this person already exist?

Doesn't this person(commissioner) have MORE pressing matter to attend to, then deem what is "SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE"?

Where is Texas going to get the extra money to pay this person, either to hire or pay for the extra time to prove SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE?

Don't we(texas) have a financial crisis with education then needs to be resolved first?

I believe this law that is resolvable from a parents aspect and for this and the reasons above, unnecessary.
 

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I've said this in other threads, but...

This should really shouldn't have made it to the state legislation level, but this didn't make it to the state legislation lever because it wasn't a problem. It really is a problem, but a problem that should have been handled at the schools. It wasn't handled at the schools. The governement had to step in.

The bottom line of this issue is that if you don't police yourself, someone will do it for you.
 

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Seems like a waste of resources.

Couldn't local school boards do something about it where ever parents raise the issue? Couldn't PTAs just talk to the cheer coach of their local school? If none of this is happenning, I think it says something about the level of concern in the communities. If a local community decides it cares, they already have ample resources and recourses for correction. The involvement of the state legislature is unecessary, unhelpful and unproductive.
State legislators should have something more useful to do.
 

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The school boards should have done something, but they didn't. So the guys a little higher up stepped in.
 

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Gandhi>Bush said:
This should really shouldn't have made it to the state legislation level, but this didn't make it to the state legislation lever because it wasn't a problem.
Not everything that makes its way to a state legislature deserves to be there. Sometimes a politician does something merely for grandstandingvalue. Maybe that's not the case here. However I think that safe assumption is that politicos aren't always up to what they say they're up to.

Gandhi>Bush said:
It really is a problem, but a problem that should have been handled at the schools. It wasn't handled at the schools. The governement had to step in.
Local school boards tried to do something but were for some reason unable to do so?
The PTA talked to cheer coaches but were rebuffed?

Perhaps it wasn't "handled" at the schools because it's not much of an issue to the people who are actually involved in the schools.




On a side note I notice that someone was snoozing during sex ed:
"Democratic Rep. Al Edwards, the bill's sponsor, has argued that sexually suggestive cheerleading exhibitions are a distraction that results in pregnancies, dropouts and the contraction of
AIDS and herpes."
Maybe I should write and tell him where babies really do come from and how STDs are actually transmitted.


The bottom line of this issue is that if you don't police yourself, someone will do it for you.[/QUOTE]
 

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of course this shouldnt be made into a law....i really think that the people who made up this law sort of forgot what its like to be a kid...and the "point" of this story is that the government is just slapping on more laws to opress kids...really they think we're irrisponsible, reckless, etc....kids need to have more of a say in society these days...and just because your generation was during the 70's with "free love" and marijuana doesnt mean we are like that...you should stop using your mistakes to correct us on some matters that we aren't stupid enough to do....so thank you republicans for another nonsense law in Texas...
 

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Capt. America said:
I believe this law that is resolvable from a parents aspect and for this and the reasons above, unnecessary.
It is the inability or unwillingness of parents to control the behavior of their children that is at the heart of all problems associated with children, isn't it?
 

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Gandhi>Bush said:
I've said this in other threads, but...

This should really shouldn't have made it to the state legislation level, but this didn't make it to the state legislation lever because it wasn't a problem. It really is a problem, but a problem that should have been handled at the schools. It wasn't handled at the schools. The governement had to step in.

The bottom line of this issue is that if you don't police yourself, someone will do it for you.
I totally agree with you on this. Local schools and their teachers should have addressed this, or even the state athletic board, or what ever the governing body is for high school cheerleading in Texas is, should have addressed this issue. It apparently hasn't. I hate having the government step in, but if no one else is willing to step to the plate to address this problem, then it is their responsibility to play the bad cop in this case.
 

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Gandhi>Bush said:
The school boards should have done something, but they didn't. So the guys a little higher up stepped in.
Perhaps there's not the groundswell of support for this that I assume you assume.

It certainly seems that if parents gave a fetid dino's kidney about the affair that they have the means to do something about it. If they don't care then the state legislature shouldn't be called in to play morality police.
No need for a nanny state.
 

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ludahai said:
... if no one else is willing to step to the plate...
And also note that it's expected to die in committee.

This is all just some state legislator's fifteen minutes of fame.
The PTAs aren't bothered enough to something within their power. The school boards aren't bothered to something within their power. Even the State legislature isn't bothered to something within their power.
If this were a genuine issue of concern, it'd be handled at the local PTA meeting. This is an overblown, over-exaggerated hyperbole that's gotten out of hand and flown off the Richter scale pan-handle to the deep end of the fire.

Why should the govt get involved in the affair when it's such a non-issue?

ludahai said:
...then it is [the state govt's] responsibility to play the bad cop in this case.
Hogwash.
Since when did the govt get the right to play morality cop in the face of community-wide apathy?
Community standards are the criteria to be used for distinguishing pornography. Why aren't community standards acceptable criteria here?
 

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Simon W. Moon said:
And also note that it's expected to die in committee.

This is all just some state legislator's fifteen minutes of fame.
The PTAs aren't bothered enough to something within their power. The school boards aren't bothered to something within their power. Even the State legislature isn't bothered to something within their power.
If this were a genuine issue of concern, it'd be handled at the local PTA meeting. This is an overblown, over-exaggerated hyperbole that's gotten out of hand and flown off the Richter scale pan-handle to the deep end of the fire.

Why should the govt get involved in the affair when it's such a non-issue?

Hogwash.
Since when did the govt get the right to play morality cop in the face of community-wide apathy?
Community standards are the criteria to be used for distinguishing pornography. Why aren't community standards acceptable criteria here?
So, are you saying that it isn't a concern? I haven't taught Stateside in a few years, but I saw many cheerleading squads that clearly went over the line in their performances. Also, who sets the standards? What may be acceptable in one community may not be acceptable in another. Considering that these squads often perform across the state, there should be some uniform standard set. However, it shouldn't be set by the state legislature, but rather by the state governing body for the sport.
 

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ludahai said:
So, are you saying that it isn't a concern?
Procedurally, it's relative simple issue to solve. It's something that can be handled on a case by case basis at PTA meetings etc. The fact that it hasn't been addressed provides a clear indication of the priority these communities place on it.

ludahai said:
However, it shouldn't be set by the state legislature, but rather by the state governing body for the sport.
That's basically what I'm saying. If there's an issue of such importance, then there're already several sets of adequate means of addressing it.
Consider the joke/threat, "Were from the Government and we're here to help." It revolves around the common man's understanding of how these efforts -well intentioned though they may be- can become much more trouble than they're worth.
 

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All I have to say is...omg, someone is actually discussing this? Who cares? It brings people from high school to games who ordinarily wouldn't come (trust me, I know) and if it puts people in the stands, schools should be all for it. But hey, I put my two cents into a conversation that shouldn't even happen so...
 

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Fu_chick said:
Cheerleading=herpes :lamo
Gimme an "S"
"S"
Gimme a "T"
"T"
Gimme a "D"
"D"
What's that spell?
STD
I can't hear you!
STD!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
 

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shuamort said:
Gimme an "S"
"S"
Gimme a "T"
"T"
Gimme a "D"
"D"
What's that spell?
STD
I can't hear you!
STD!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
ROFL, all the cheerleaders at my school come from other schools and to put it nicely, are std-infected sluts.
 

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ShamMol said:
ROFL, all the cheerleaders at my school come from other schools and to put it nicely, are std-infected sluts.
I go to a little school and the chearleaders are actually the nice "good" girls
 

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I go to a little school and the chearleaders are actually the nice "good" girls
Good for your school. Welcome to being outside the mainstream.
 

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Oh, I saw that and was laughing so hard when the trash bags came out, lol
 

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satinloveslibs said:
I go to a little school and the chearleaders are actually the nice "good" girls
I suspect that most are. It's just the state legislators who're the dirty ol' pervs.
 
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