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Man refuses to roll down his window to a checkpoint. He continues to take pictures, as the sheriff comes over they motion him to go to a secondary area and they bash his window in while he is in his car. Is this a bit excessive and goes against our rights? I think so. No warrant was presented.
 

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Man refuses to roll down his window to a checkpoint. He continues to take pictures, as the sheriff comes over they motion him to go to a secondary area and they bash his window in while he is in his car. Is this a bit excessive and goes against our rights? I think so. No warrant was presented.
If checkpoints are legal in that state, then I have no problem with what they did. He wouldn't even talk to them. If a copper gives you a lawful order, you obey. Period.

He was making some sort of test case of himself. It probably cost him a couple hundred dollars. Stupid. Serves him right.
 

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Video @: Checkpoint No Consent, Warrantless Vehicle Search, Right to - YouTube

Man refuses to roll down his window to a checkpoint. He continues to take pictures, as the sheriff comes over they motion him to go to a secondary area and they bash his window in while he is in his car. Is this a bit excessive and goes against our rights? I think so. No warrant was presented.
Looks like fun.

What kind of a loser sets out to take pictures of the Border Patrol and generally be a Troll.
 

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Video @: Checkpoint No Consent, Warrantless Vehicle Search, Right to - YouTube

Man refuses to roll down his window to a checkpoint. He continues to take pictures, as the sheriff comes over they motion him to go to a secondary area and they bash his window in while he is in his car. Is this a bit excessive and goes against our rights? I think so. No warrant was presented.
Been ruled otherwise by the courts as our Militant Police act ever aggressively against the People; but I feel that checkpoints in general violate the Constitution as they are clearly warantless searches. I throw drug dogs into the same category. I ain't seen a regular dog run up and bark at the smell of pot. You have to train them, you've essentially made a machine. And if a cop cannot use some form of hand held spectrometer around a car, then he can't use a dog.
 

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This is a perfect example of my "more liberal taser use" position. People should get tased for asking stupid questions.
 

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If checkpoints are legal in that state, then I have no problem with what they did. He wouldn't even talk to them. If a copper gives you a lawful order, you obey. Period.

He was making some sort of test case of himself. It probably cost him a couple hundred dollars. Stupid. Serves him right.
A couple hundred bucks? It will be more than that, he's gonna get all sorts of charges and need a lawyer, and blah blah blah. This whole thing is designed to siphon money away from the People.
 

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Man refuses to roll down his window to a checkpoint. He continues to take pictures, as the sheriff comes over they motion him to go to a secondary area and they bash his window in while he is in his car. Is this a bit excessive and goes against our rights? I think so. No warrant was presented.
Warrants aren't always needed for a search, or for a stop.

This guy was an ass hole who was looking for trouble. He should have rolled down his window, at least partially.
 

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This is a perfect example of my "more liberal taser use" position. People should get tased for asking stupid questions.
Man, you'd be tazed non-stop.


hahahah
 

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A couple hundred bucks? It will be more than that, he's gonna get all sorts of charges and need a lawyer, and blah blah blah. This whole thing is designed to siphon money away from the People.
No, the whole thing is designed to handle stupid idiots. Didn't realize he had charges; should've known that. Maybe he learned a lesson.
 

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A couple hundred bucks? It will be more than that, he's gonna get all sorts of charges and need a lawyer, and blah blah blah. This whole thing is designed to siphon money away from the People.
Thats what this guy's actions were..... A ploy to siphon money away from the people by trying his damnedest to create a situation where he could try to sue someone.

Dumb ass...... You can't tell me his actions served any legitimate purpose whatsoever.
 

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Man, you'd be tazed non-stop.

hahahah
Does that post make any sense?

Anyway, after they broke the window they should tased the **** outta 'm.
 

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This is a perfect example of my "more liberal taser use" position. People should get tased for asking stupid questions.
I support tasing people for supporting checkpoints.
 

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I support tasing people for supporting checkpoints.
As long as a lot of mother****ers are gettin' tased, society will be better off. I'm tellin' ya, people need it.
 

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I hate checkpoints, but one time I had a cop make a pass at me during one.....lol....................
 

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Warrants aren't always needed for a search, or for a stop.

This guy was an ass hole who was looking for trouble. He should have rolled down his window, at least partially.

No ****..

It was US Border Patrol, they were a few miles inside the border (you know, that pourous thing that keeps leaking new "undocumented workers") so I can see how the checkpoint was legit.

Most likely all the dumb ass had to do was show some ID, while at the same time the Patrolman would peer into the passenger area (plain view) and then send him on his merry little way.

If he wanted to take photos he should have parked afterwards and taken all the goddamned photos he wanted to.
 

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No, the whole thing is designed to handle stupid idiots. Didn't realize he had charges; should've known that. Maybe he learned a lesson.
When does the State ever have to learn their lesson? Seems to me that it's always the individual who has to learn the lesson of Government Domination.
 

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Does that post make any sense?

Anyway, after they broke the window they should tased the **** outta 'm.
Of course it does. You said people should be tazed for stupid comments, I just mentioned that if stupid comments are the limitation, you'd be tazed constantly. Follow now? It was pretty funny.
 

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If checkpoints are legal in that state, then I have no problem with what they did. He wouldn't even talk to them. If a copper gives you a lawful order, you obey. Period.
Nah...He has no reason to stop me, so why should I listen to him? He can **** off.
 

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If checkpoints are legal in that state, then I have no problem with what they did. He wouldn't even talk to them. If a copper gives you a lawful order, you obey. Period.
What lawful order? He refused a search, which is WELL within his rights. I hope you're not one of those "do whatever the police tell you" types who opposes people citing their rights.

He was making some sort of test case of himself. It probably cost him a couple hundred dollars. Stupid. Serves him right.
If he wasn't being detained he should be free to go. What PC did they have to detain him in secondary inspection? From his story (and yes of course if he is full of it it'll come out in court) they had none.

I really hate these bull**** "interior" border patrol checkpoints. They can occur far from any border and treat the coasts as our borders too:
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This includes EVERYWHERE in my state.
 

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Thats what this guy's actions were..... A ploy to siphon money away from the people by trying his damnedest to create a situation where he could try to sue someone.

Dumb ass...... You can't tell me his actions served any legitimate purpose whatsoever.
Of course it does. The government needs to be reminded it's not in charge, it doesn't hold the power. His actions served completely legitimate purpose. Without cause or warrant, the cops may not do these things. And I hope he does sue and I hope he does win, and I hope some people get fired over this. It's time to reign the government in, not excuse it's aggressive actions against us further.
 

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What lawful order? He refused a search, which is WELL within his rights. I hope you're not one of those "do whatever the police tell you" types who opposes people citing their rights.



If he wasn't being detained he should be free to go. What PC did they have to detain him in secondary inspection? From his story (and yes of course if he is full of it it'll come out in court) they had none.

I really hate these bull**** "interior" border patrol checkpoints. They can occur far from any border and treat the coasts as our borders too:
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There was no sound on that video. You have no idea what they were asking him. First thing was probably: "Sir, please roll down your window." What.A.Dork.
 

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Of course it does. You said people should be tazed for stupid comments, I just mentioned that if stupid comments are the limitation, you'd be tazed constantly. Follow now? It was pretty funny.
I wrote 'stupid questions'.
 

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When does the State ever have to learn their lesson? Seems to me that it's always the individual who has to learn the lesson of Government Domination.
So you are saying that Border Patrol shouldn't use a USSC approved method (checkpoint) to attempt to do what a large percentage of the American population (The People) have employed them to do (because Border security is their job)???

What lesson is there to be learned from this?
 

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So you are saying that Border Patrol shouldn't use a USSC approved method (checkpoint) to attempt to do what a large percentage of the American population (The People) have employed them to do (because Border security is their job)???

What lesson is there to be learned from this?
Property damage and arrest are not warranted without proper cause or warrant first.
 
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