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Chavez backs possible vote to close private TV stations (1 Viewer)

RED DAVE and LEFTY HENRY
This is presumably your idea of how TRUE democracy is achieved?

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Chavez backs possible vote to close private TV stations - CNN.com

Typical of a liberal......when they cannot control what is being said, they use govt to do it. Yet they then claim they are the champions of free speech.

The only free speech they champion is their own. Anyone else that disagrees with them, they attack. We have seen this lately with all the liberals attacking anyone that has something to say that hurts their little feelings.
 
Just a day earlier, a top lawmaker from Chavez's ruling party told government supporters to take over private TV stations on Election Day if they report that opposition challenger, Manuel Rosales, is in the lead ahead of official results, alleging the channel may use rigged exit polls to mislead the public.

"When they start to do that, we must take over the TV channels ... a peaceful takeover as we have always done at the doors of these TV stations," Iris Varela said.

Asked about the possibility that closing private TV stations likely would provoke an international backlash, the Venezuelan leader said that was what held his hand earlier but declared the days of a "permissive Chavez" were over.

"I don't care what the world says. I care about what happens in Venezuela," he said. "The world can say, 'Oh, dear!' but this is my country; I'm responsible."

Wow.:shock:
 
And it's already started...


CARACAS, Venezuela — Officials identifying themselves as members of a state regulatory agency forced the U.S.-based Spanish-language TV network Telemundo to halt transmission Sunday of its presidential election coverage.

"We're surprised by this," said Pablo Iacub, a member of Telemundo's eight-person team, which arrived last week. "We only want to do our work," he said by telephone.

At least six people who identified themselves as members of the National Commission of Telecommunications (CONATEL), which regulates electronic media in Venezuela, arrived Sunday afternoon at the hotel from which Telemundo had been transmitting since Friday, said Iacub.

The officials said the network needed permission to transmit and lacking such could not, he said. Iacub said he was unaware of such a requirement but that the Telemundo journalists were accredited with Venezuela's national elections council.

Iacub said the Telemundo team asked how they could obtain permission and, after an hour, were told that they would not be able to transmit.

Telephone calls to Conatel offices seeking comment on the incident went unanswered.

Telemundo Communications Group is owned by NBC Universal Inc., which is controlled by General Electric Co. It claims to reach about 93 percent of Hispanic households in the U.S. and also has viewers in Mexico.

The most ridiculous part? Telemundo isn't even broadcast in Venezuela. None of the things they were transmitting would end up being seen by Venezuelans. That removes even the pathetic little excuse used by Chavez that the media was trying to cause riots in his country. It's clearly just an attempt to keep others from knowing whats going on and prevent the free flow of information.
 
We need to invade that country before it gets any WMD's lol. If the Venezula people want to vote for a possible dictatorship, well its their choice I'm afraid.

If he did rig the elections where are the protests (unless I'm missing something), the country is not that authotarian that they have secret police to quieten civilians...yet.
 
Just like he won last time? You liberals were crying and whining about the 2000 and 2004 US election but are quick to put your stamp of approval when it a Dictator wins after everyone knows he rigged the first election.

lol sorry but you're a ****ing dumass. Either you missed the link, or choose to continue onward with your firebrand ignorance...

Oh yeah and how am I a liberal? I am about the farthest thing from a liberal.
 
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RED DAVE and LEFTY HENRY
This is presumably your idea of how TRUE democracy is achieved?

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Chavez backs possible vote to close private TV stations - CNN.com

Number 1: THANK YOU! I've been searching for something to dig up on this moron for years.

Number2: TIME Magazine is nominating Chavez for Person of the Year... how foolish.

Number 3: Congressman Tancredo was silenced at a college by a mob of leftists last week; similar to what Chavez is doing to his own people via the media.

Number 4: King Hugo is a moron....
 
Typical of a liberal......when they cannot control what is being said, they use govt to do it. Yet they then claim they are the champions of free speech.

The only free speech they champion is their own. Anyone else that disagrees with them, they attack. We have seen this lately with all the liberals attacking anyone that has something to say that hurts their little feelings.

Chavez may be left-wing, but he's no liberal.
 
Number2: TIME Magazine is nominating Chavez for Person of the Year... how foolish.

Person Of The Year isn't decided by the good deeds done by a person but for their importance in current world events. Fidel Castro and Hitler and Stalin were consider and correct me if I'm wrong but I think Hitler and Stalin were featured
 
Quote by Lefty Henry
(What kind of bull conspiracy theory is this? Chavez won by almost 30 percent, WITH STRICTER VOTING REGULATIONS, IE A RECIEPT FROM YOUR ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE)

What on earth are you bleating about Lefty henry?
I have not suggested that Chavez won in any underhand way, I feel quite certain that he won fair and square.

My gripe was his desire to close down independant TV stations whose Editors and Reporters have not as yet succumbed to his brand of Democracy.
You would do well to stick to the subject of the thread.
By the way, those Independant TV stations were not even broadcasting from inside Venezuela.
However, I am not at this stage going to blame Chavez for anything, I prefer to wait and see what he does do with the power given to him.
The only point I will make is that, yes he won the Presidential election with an overwhelming majority, however his opponent Rosales also had a considerable number of people vote for him (Rosales) this would indicate that a significant % of Venuzuelan society has not yet beeen coerced or brainwashed into believing Chavez is the better man for the post.
Would it not be wise of Chavez to listen to the opposition instead of trying to silence it?
 
lol sorry but you're a ****ing dumass. Either you missed the link, or choose to continue onward with your firebrand ignorance...

Oh yeah and how am I a liberal? I am about the farthest thing from a liberal.


With a name like leftyhenry and you claim not to be a liberal......but as usual, liberals are ashamed to admit to what they are.
 
With a name like leftyhenry and you claim not to be a liberal......but as usual, liberals are ashamed to admit to what they are.

Maybe you cannot understand this, but socialism is not the same as liberalism.

As for me as a liberal I'm proud of what I am. Liberalism as done great things for the world. Banning slavery, ending segregation, universal sufferage, the right to vote, free speech etc etc. Liberalism provided the freedoms than conservatives take for granted.
 
That is the description of a liberal.

There's nothing liberal about socialism or cracking down on civil liberties. Chavez is a reactionary demagogue. As I said before, he may be left-wing but he's no liberal.
 
With a name like leftyhenry and you claim not to be a liberal......but as usual, liberals are ashamed to admit to what they are.

liberal and left wing are very different. I am very far from liberal (and conservative).

What kind of piss-poor strawman attempt was that? That wasn't even close to sounding relevant.

So what say you to the topic at hand defender o' tyranny

This is a bollocks attempt to undermine democracy in Venezula. My article had much to do with this topic because it completly defeats the myths that Chavez is some evil tyrant.

Fidel Castro and Hitler and Stalin were consider and correct me if I'm wrong but I think Hitler and Stalin were featured

Please don't group those three together. Hitler was the polar opposite of Stalin and Castro and was a capitalist. Stalin made some horrible mistakes but he industrialized Russia by bringing 100 years of technology in 10, this is the only reason Russia is still standing today and is not Nazi-Russia. Fidel Castro is a national liberation hero who, despite US rhetoric, is very popular among his people for liberating the working class from imperialism.
 
Please don't group those three together. Hitler was the polar opposite of Stalin and Castro and was a capitalist. Stalin made some horrible mistakes but he industrialized Russia by bringing 100 years of technology in 10, this is the only reason Russia is still standing today and is not Nazi-Russia. Fidel Castro is a national liberation hero who, despite US rhetoric, is very popular among his people for liberating the working class from imperialism.

Doesn't deter from the fact that they have all been considered as Man of the Year at one time or the other in Time Magazine.I was just trying to clarify that it's not how good you are that gets you Person of the Year on Time magazine - it's the role you play in the current world.
 
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Person Of The Year isn't decided by the good deeds done by a person but for their importance in current world events. Fidel Castro and Hitler and Stalin were consider and correct me if I'm wrong but I think Hitler and Stalin were featured

It's still wrong. Person of the Year should be decided on the good deeds someone has done. I'd nominate Condi Rice or Dick Cheney for Person of the Year over Castro or Chavez.
 
Maybe you cannot understand this, but socialism is not the same as liberalism.

As for me as a liberal I'm proud of what I am. Liberalism as done great things for the world. Banning slavery, ending segregation, universal sufferage, the right to vote, free speech etc etc. Liberalism provided the freedoms than conservatives take for granted.

Whoa WHOA! I beg to differ. Abraham Lincoln (REPUBLICAN) ended slavery in America. REPUBLICANS granted equal rights and the right to vote for blacks. AND, a REPUBLICAN pushed for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So check your facts pal.

And it was DEMOCRATS who ran the south in 1860 (Civil War era). Lincoln wanted to end slavery, the democrats didn't.

Conservatives do push for Free Speech, but your hard left buddies in college campuses don't. A hard left group in one college silenced Rep. Tom Tancredo while he was giving a speech to a student republican group; their excuse for silencing him? "Tancredo is a racist; the republican party is the new face of the KKK." HA! Yeah right! The only polititcian that I know of who is in the KKK is Sen. Robert "Sheets" Byrd (D-WV). A STINKIN' DEMOCRAT!!!

Universal Sufferage? Affirmative action hurts that cause and any other minority cause. Affirmative action puts a clamp on a "competitive job market". The reason? The Left thinks that blacks, hispanics, indians, arabs, midgets, women, homos, etc. are too stupid to get a job by themselves, that a job needs to be handed to them because they can't find one on their own because they're misguided sentients.

Another looney left-wing idea? Eminent Domain; the gov't/courts ability to take away your home/land in order to give to the highest bidder. That sure as hell ain't fair; and it ain't right!
 
Whoa WHOA! I beg to differ. Abraham Lincoln (REPUBLICAN) ended slavery in America. REPUBLICANS granted equal rights and the right to vote for blacks. AND, a REPUBLICAN pushed for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So check your facts pal.

Kennedy was a democrat and the Republicans were very different back then. The modern day politics of the parties really formed around FDR.


It's still wrong. Person of the Year should be decided on the good deeds someone has done. I'd nominate Condi Rice or Dick Cheney for Person of the Year over Castro or Chavez.

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