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Charlie Kirk permanently owned on abortion

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This Ben Gleib guy is great at atomizing conservative arguments. In this instance he asks if humans have tails. Kirk is confused. Gleib then asks if Charlie Kirk is absolutely sure that the photo he's holding up is of a human life. Kirk says 'without a doubt', only to be informed that the photo is of a dolphin fetus. There was no trickery, despite Kirk's protests.

 

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Absolutely appalling - what phenomenally twisted logic - that actually proves nothing in the end!

This moron tricks Kirk with a photo of a dolphin fetus (with a tail), then produces a photo of a human fetus and gets Kirk to embarrass himself by [wrongly] asserting the dolphin fetus is a human fetus. So, Kirk was silly to assert ("without a doubt") that photo was of a human fetus. He definitely embarrassed himself, "without a doubt."

The moron then proceeds to make fun of Kirk for confusing the two, accusing Kirk of not knowing the difference between a dolphin fetus and a human fetus IRL. < clap > < clap >

The moron's premise however seems to be based on the [false] premise that "fetuses have tails" (of course, fetuses do not have tails), whereupon he proceeds to assert via his absurd logic that "humans don't have tails" - ergo, fetuses with tails aren't human. So far, so "good."

But this is when he refers back to the dolphin fetus - proving what? Dolphins aren't human?

Honestly, what's sadder here? Kirk's making a minor fool of himself for asserting what he did, or the moron's twisted logic that proved absolutely nothing? Or those who think the moron somehow "owned" Kirk with this nonsense?

It's no wonder attempting to reason with some people can be so difficult.
 

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"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Mark Twain

...a quote Kirk will no doubt remember going forward.
 

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This Ben Gleib guy is great at atomizing conservative arguments. In this instance he asks if humans have tails. Kirk is confused. Gleib then asks if Charlie Kirk is absolutely sure that the photo he's holding up is of a human life. Kirk says 'without a doubt', only to be informed that the photo is of a dolphin fetus. There was no trickery, despite Kirk's protests.

Kirk is a very toxic and angry person. His cult of unthinking followers are worse.

He got his ass kicked. Reminds me of the time Deepak Chopra got owned during a Q &A session.
 

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Absolutely appalling - what phenomenally twisted logic - that actually proves nothing in the end!

This moron tricks Kirk with a photo of a dolphin fetus (with a tail), then produces a photo of a human fetus and gets Kirk to embarrass himself by [wrongly] asserting the dolphin fetus is a human fetus. So, Kirk was silly to assert ("without a doubt") that photo was of a human fetus. He definitely embarrassed himself, "without a doubt."

The moron then proceeds to make fun of Kirk for confusing the two, accusing Kirk of not knowing the difference between a dolphin fetus and a human fetus IRL. < clap > < clap >

The moron's premise however seems to be based on the [false] premise that "fetuses have tails" (of course, fetuses do not have tails), whereupon he proceeds to assert via his absurd logic that "humans don't have tails" - ergo, fetuses with tails aren't human. So far, so "good."

But this is when he refers back to the dolphin fetus - proving what? Dolphins aren't human?

No, fetuses and embryos aren't people, hence why a human fetus can easily be mistaken for a dolphin fetus and vice versa (whereas you cannot confuse a human for a dolphin). Mammals go through similar stages of development before they become viable animals.

And come on, an Atlas Shrugged avatar...? Ugh. This is 2021, not 2011.
 

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Charlie who?

Never heard of him.

Charlie Kirk is a right-wing debate bro who thinks he's smart, but like pretty much all debate boys, is a constant subject of humiliation. A key trait of all right-wing debate bros is that they all run from Sam Seder.
 

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Charlie Kirk is a right-wing debate bro who thinks he's smart, but like pretty much all debate boys, is a constant subject of humiliation. A key trait of all right-wing debate bros is that they all run from Sam Seder.

Well, thanks for the info. I don't visit any right-wing hangouts.
 

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The moron's premise however seems to be based on the [false] premise that "fetuses have tails" (of course, fetuses do not have tails),
Human fetuses don't, but human embryos do.

embryo-compare.jpg


Source: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~pine/book1qts/embryo-compare.html
 

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Charlie Kirk is a right-wing debate bro who thinks he's smart, but like pretty much all debate boys, is a constant subject of humiliation. A key trait of all right-wing debate bros is that they all run from Sam Seder.
As well they should...

"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Mark Twain
 

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LOL - says him whose avatar is from 1902. Gimme a break.

I meant that Atlas Shrugged was relevant in conservative circles around 2011, back when Republicans flirted with libertarianism. They've since abandoned ideology altogether. Unless being a selfish asshole sociopath is an ideology. I meant that in broad terms (e.g. the modern conservative movement), not relating to you specifically. I guess.
 

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As well they should...

"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Mark Twain

Well, of course they're all going to run from a guy who will humiliate them in public. Steven Crowder literally has to tip-toe around Sam Seder's time zone to avoid bumping into him on the Internet.


 

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Well, of course they're all going to run from a guy who will humiliate them in public. Steven Crowder literally has to tip-toe around Sam Seder's time zone to avoid bumping into him on the Internet.
Except Sam Seder's asinine "logic" is what humiliates Sam Seder. He's literally a moron and proved it in that video.

Sadly, Kirk embarrassed himself by falling into the trap of attempting to reason with a moron.
 

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Of course it is. Do you think it's a tail? Are you truly that gullible that you think it's a TAIL??
Human embryos normally have a prenatal tail that measures about one-sixth of the size of the embryo itself.1 At between 4 and 5 weeks of age, the normal human embryo has 10–12 developing tail vertebrae. By the 8th week of gestation, the sixth to twelfth tail vertebrae have disappeared via cell death, and likewise, the associated tail tissues also undergo cell death and regress.


I'll accept your apology now.
 
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