whysoserious
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Well we will now, and it will not be one you will win...
As much as I don't like to say so, we might have to. We may have no choice in the matter.
Israel had to do something similar, and, if I recall, they were there like 20 years before the time was right to pull out.
South Lebanon conflict (1985
Well, OK. 15 years.
But realistically, the right time to pull out is far more determined by the realities of the situation on the ground, rather than some arbitrary timeline thunk up and invented some other place which ignores the realities of the situation on the ground.
The left is soooooooo easy to propagandize, even when it's against their own democracy and from dictatorships. It's a marvel of the ages!We sure didn't win the war, that's for sure. But we started it, and blood is on our hands.
You know that in a typical year, its estimated 50,000 cars are burned by muslims in france a year. We are seeing back into the middle ages.
I would expect that nonsense on other boards, groups in particular.
Your agenda is clearly Muslims are the enemy, all of them ? Would that be a reasonable conclusion?
1. I did not Use ANY of those sources.Firstly you are assuming- just because someone does not reply does not equate to agreement. Quite the stretch.
Perhaps they assume discussing this point with you may be futile?
Where did I state coincidence- Not once. You are attempting to blame all car burnings on Muslims- Fail
Then you state location- poor districts- with substantial Muslim population- K, some would be from that demographic burning cars.
This discussion started when I asked for proof and got this, not from you but another post in the thread that started this discussion.
In Diverse France, New Years Means Hundreds of Burned Cars | VDARE.COM Of course, diverse (mostly Muslim) car-b-cues don’t occur only on New Years. That would be too limiting to Allah’s anarchists. When Muslims get a tiny bit miffed in France, they think arson and other violence.
The Islamization of France in 2014 Car burnings, commonplace across France, are often attributed to rival Muslim gangs that compete with each other for the media spotlight over who can cause the most destruction. An estimated 40,000 cars are burned in France every year. http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/...d-by-muslim-thugs-on-new-years-eve-this-time/
Even Goebbels mixed some truth with lies, and he was a master.
Last- I have to work on multi quotes.
2. THEN, I posted the Districts that had the Highest Burnings (Le Figaro), and they were, Of Course, Highest Muslim population ones.me said:"40,000" is NO exaggeration, if anything it's LOW.
Of course, you can read many/most MSM dailies without the word 'Muslim' even being mentioned.
It's like Muslim immigrants, ie, quadruple in Scandinavia, and Rapes quadruple..
but they Don't keep stats on their failed immigration policy, so you're a "bigot" for suggesting the obvious and challenged to produce stats the govt is too PC to keep. Catch 22
Much of Europe is like this.
ie, in the UK it's "Asians" when they really mean 'Muslim Pakistanis'. ('grooming' etc)
Other places (ie, France) it's 'disadvantaged youths' who may just happen to be in the same cities/Muslim burbs the cars are torched in.
That discussion won't go well on boards like this that are filled with generally reasonable people. What's that website... stormfront? Try that place.
Our troops on their "holy" ground is their best recruiting tool. It's a conundrum.
Tell that to the people of Europe...They say and will vote other wise...
I don't care. It has to be one of the most asinine comparisons ever. It's a comparison of a very specific group doing a very specific thing (moms killing the kids by drowning) to a very general group doing a very general thing (Muslims killing). Let's continue:
I bet more people have been bitten by ants than stung in the left ear by male yellow jackets.
I bet more people have been killed by white men than stabbed in the asshole by a left-handed black guy.
Who gives a flying ****?
Where, here's a little hint so you don't work yourself up into a lather......... ignore the posts you think are irrelevant.
:roll:
Does it still have to mentioned, ad nauseum, that 'not all Muslims are terrorists'? Can't that yet be a given???
I'm not going to ignore posts that are attempting to slander a large portion of the world out of ignorance. Muslims != Extremist Terrorists. These terrorists are no more Muslim than the assholes in Northern Ireland are Christian. They are extremist, psychotic, assholes who would find another excuse to blow people up if religion wasn't available.
Smoke them out and induce them into a fight they can't win sounds like a winning strategy to me.
I figure that eventually they'll run out of people.
It should be noted that it's the Islamic fundamentalists which picked this conflict.
They chose to start this conflict.
They deliberately planned to start this conflict.
They continued their attacks until the Western powers reacted which started this conflict.
It was they which attacked Western interests a great multiple of times to start this conflict.
They wouldn't have stopped or be satisfied until this conflict became fully engaged.
All this was well before there was any sort of reaction or violation of their 'holy' ground, so umm, no. I'm not buying that.
They may very well use this conflict as a calls to arms, but is there a single group throughout history which hasn't?
Hell, we haven't even discussed honor killings yet... how many Christian moms drown their kids because they think Jesus said to versus Muslim fathers murdering their daughters for wearing shorts to school or other such affronts to Allah?
1. I did not Use ANY of those sources.
They are Right Wing, if CORRECT. (and will say what MSM won't)
A-FRIGGING-GAIN
Here was my original post (along with TIME.COM I'm not quoting)
2. THEN, I posted the Districts that had the Highest Burnings (Le Figaro), and they were, Of Course, Highest Muslim population ones.
Any REASONABLE Person gets it.
What you did/are doing was/is DISINGENUOUSLY asking for "proof" when Logic was all that is available, since the govt doesn't keep stats.
EVERYONE gets it.
But you DISINGENUOSLY/FALLACIOUSLY ask for "Proof."
There is NO "Proof" for Gravity or Evolution Either, just Great Circumstantial cases that Keep happening.. as here.
3. It's Not exactly a secret in any case, it's common knowledge.
Your debate is Not sincere, not rational.
Just continued busted-ego attempts to shift the Burden while posting NO data or logic of your own
WHIFF.
Do you lay the all the car burnings at the feet of Muslims?This link is citing 40K
Valls "choqué" par les 40 000 voitures brûlées chaque année - Le Point
and only around 1000 on new years eve-apparently thats routine now.
The Islamization of France in 2014
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/...d-by-muslim-thugs-on-new-years-eve-this-time/
In Diverse France, New Years Means Hundreds of Burned Cars | VDARE.COM
LiveLeak.com - 1,193New years eve car torchings in France. 40,000 cars a year get burned but by who?
Smoke them out and induce them into a fight they can't win sounds like a winning strategy to me.
I figure that eventually they'll run out of people.
It should be noted that it's the Islamic fundamentalists which picked this conflict.
They chose to start this conflict.
They deliberately planned to start this conflict.
They continued their attacks until the Western powers reacted which started this conflict.
It was they which attacked Western interests a great multiple of times to start this conflict.
They wouldn't have stopped or be satisfied until this conflict became fully engaged.
All this was well before there was any sort of reaction or violation of their 'holy' ground, so umm, no. I'm not buying that.
They may very well use this conflict as a calls to arms, but is there a single group throughout history which hasn't?
That would be so very unfair.Do you lay the all the car burnings at the feet of Muslims?
The thing that bothers me is that they destroy buildings that were built by their ancestors hundreds of years ago - destroying their own historical past to make a point? What idiots! It reminds me of protestors here that riot and burn down their own damn houses and the businesses that were there to serve them! And then complain that they have no place to live and/or shop for food and other necessities! :doh:
The thing that bothers me is that they destroy buildings that were built by their ancestors hundreds of years ago - destroying their own historical past to make a point? What idiots! It reminds me of protestors here that riot and burn down their own damn houses and the businesses that were there to serve them! And then complain that they have no place to live and/or shop for food and other necessities! :doh:
You are asking the impossible, to win a guerrilla war.
History of guerrilla warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaUnsuccessful guerrilla campaigns
. . . .
- Second Boer War (1899–1902)
- Ukrainian nationalist partisans and guerrillas during and after the Russian Civil War
- Makhnovist anarchists and guerrillas in Ukraine after the Russian Civil War
- Basmachi rebels in Soviet Central Asia 1916-1931
- Tambov Rebellion in Soviet Russia 1919-1921
- Irish Civil War (1922–1923)
- IRA S-Plan campaign 1939-1941 Northern Campaign (IRA) 1942-1944 Border Campaign (IRA) 1956-1962
- Spanish Maquis after the Spanish Civil War
- Polish resistance movement 1939-1944, unsuccessful until USSR liberation from German occupation
- Greek Civil War (1945–1949)
- Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) (1944–1949)
- Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania 1944-1965, Forest Brothers, Latvian national partisans, Lithuanian partisans
- Malayan Emergency (1948–1960)
- Karen National Liberation Army in Burma
- Mau Mau Uprising
- Peshmerga forces of Kurdistan
- Philippine–American War (1899–1902)
- Italian guerrilla war in Ethiopia (1941–1943)
- Nazi German Werwolf movement 1945
- Tibet 1958-1974, resistance against Chinese occupation ultimately failed when American Central Intelligence Agency withdrew its support in context of President Richard Nixon's diplomatic overtures to the People's Republic of China
- Dhofar Rebellion in Oman, (1962–1976)
- Thailand 1964-1982 Communist Party of Thailand (CPT). It suffered major setbacks in late 1970s and an amnesty was granted by the Thai government to all of its fighters in 1982, ending a long rebellion that once had much of rural areas under control.
- Uruguay 1965-1973, the Tupamaros were suppressed by the army forces that later took power
- Argentina 1969-1981 Montoneros and ERP were suppressed by security forces around 1977
- Dominican Republic US forces suppressed Dominican guerrillas
- El Salvador Due to the Treaty
- Polisario Front in Western Sahara
- Second Sudanese Civil War 1983-2005
- Parrari in Pakistan
- Balochistan Liberation Army
- Kachin Independent Army in Burma
- Internal conflict in Peru - insurgencies led by two rival Marxist guerrilla groups, the Shining Path and Túpac Amaru Revolutionary Movement from 1981–2000
- Armed Islamic Group (GIA) in Algeria
Don't be idiotic over the example I used. It is incredibly stupid to think that is the only example of Christians being crazy and killing innocent people.
The diversity of cultures and their customs and traditions is terrific and enriching for us all.
Really? Dont you send them to Prison or "labor camps" in China?
How funny you are...
Could a Singaporean advise other countries of the world on human rights? What's your experience?Fix your own Human Rights first then you tell the rest of the world how they fare.
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