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Chardonnay or Müller-Thurgau aka Rivaner - what do you prefer?

Chardonnay or Müller-Thurgau aka Rivaner - what do you prefer?

  • Müller-Thurgau aka Rivaner

  • Chardonnay

  • I don't know either of the two

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Chardonnay or Müller-Thurgau aka Rivaner - what do you prefer?

Müller-Thurgau / Rivaner
Müller-Thurgau, also commonly known as Rivaner, is the second most planted grape in Germany and accounts for 12% of the total vineyard area with 12, 057 ha in 2018.

It was created in 1882 in Geisenheim by Professor Hermann Müller from Thurgau in Switzerland. It was long assumed to be a cross between Riesling and Silvaner (hence “Rivaner”), however, this was disproved by genetic analysis some time ago. The real “parents” are Riesling and Madeleine Royale.
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www.germanwines.de

Deutsches Weininstitut

www.germanwines.de www.germanwines.de
 
Chardonnay needs no introducing, as it is the most wide-spread and also the most boring white wine of the wine world. :)
 
I can only recommend

Müller-Thurgau aka Rivaner aka Riesling-Silvaner​

 
I think I might have had the Rivaner once, and it's good wine. German wine is seriously underrated, IMO, as are many of the European varieties outside of Iberia, France, and Italy.
 
Rumpel said:
Chardonnay needs no introducing, as it is the most wide-spread and also the most boring white wine of the wine world. :)
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If you think Chardonnay is boring, then you've never had great Chardonnay.
 
As chardonay is the only variety I do not like the answer is easy
 
Quag said:
As chardonay is the only variety I do not like the answer is easy
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Then we are two!
I can't stand Chardonnay.
There are too many persons out there who think that they are "connaisseurs" if they can half-way pronounce "Chardonnay" - but do not know any name of any other grape. :)
 
MamboDervish said:
If you think Chardonnay is boring, then you've never had great Chardonnay.
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I still think that Chardonnay is the most boring grape on earth - even the name is deadly boring. :)
 
So far:

1 x Müller-Thurgau
1 x Chardonnay
 
Rumpel said:
Chardonnay needs no introducing, as it is the most wide-spread and also the most boring white wine of the wine world. :)
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When I was over there I used to drink Bocksbeutel. I don't know what kind of wine that is. It comes in cool bottle
 
Arlette said:
When I was over there I used to drink Bocksbeutel. I don't know what kind of wine that is. It comes in cool bottle
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"Bocksbeutel" is just the name of that special bottle. :)
Inside may be Riesling or Silvaner - or Müller-Thurgau also. :)
 
Rumpel said:
"Bocksbeutel" is just the name of that special bottle. :)
Inside may be Riesling or Silvaner - or Müller-Thurgau also. :)
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lol
I couldn't tell the difference. They all tasted good to me. I'm more into ice tea than wine
 
Once there was a movement: ABC! = Anything but Chardonnay!
I can understand that idea very well!
 
Some info:

Wander into a trendy London wine bar or bistro, and you'll hear young sophisticates order not a glass of white wine, but 'a glass of Chardonnay'. Stroll along the supermarket shelves, and the white wine selection will be dominated by Chardonnays from virtually every wine-producing nation on earth. Chardonnay is everywhere, it's all pervasive; you can't get away from it. In the wine-drinking world of today, the word 'Chardonnay' is synonymous for 'dry white wine'. It's easy to forget that wines with the 'C' word on the label more-or-less didn't exist until about 30 years ago. No wonder wine drinkers have been tiring of Chardonnay, to the extent that a new term has been coined: 'ABC' (anything but Chardonnay). Although I'm an ardent fan of this grape variety, even I have found myself wanting a break from its rather obvious charms. Here I consider some of the alternatives, if you are after a dry white wine with some real character, and illustrate each option with tasting notes of a couple of examples.
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Anything but Chardonnay

www.wineanorak.com

I find it easy to avoid that boooooooooooooring Chardonnay! :)
 
Tonight I am enjoying a Müller-Thurgau! :)
 
I don't like wine.

Maybe it's because I'm 34 and you drink wine later on.

But I much prefer beer and cocktails or just hard liquor sometimes. But mostly beer.
 
Here I now copy the label of the Müller-Thurgau that I have enjoyed today:

Bötzinger Vulkanfelsen
2020
Müller-Thurgau
Deutscher Qualitätswein
Winzergenossenschaft Bötzingen EG
D - 79 268 Bötzingen
 
Yesterday evening I actually had some Chardonnay with my shrimp soup. :)
 
2 out of 5 say:

Müller-Thurgau - aka Riesling-Silvaner aka Rivaner :)
 
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