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Chávez attacks Bush as a 'genocidal' leader (1 Viewer)

Chavez is just one more Castro wannabe.
 
America is committing genocide now?

I guess I missed the memo.
 
I guess you guys missed that whole Iraq thing where Sunnis are slaughtering Shiites and Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis and 650,000 have died? Yeah well, that wasn't really happening before especially not in such little time.
 
LeftyHenry said:
I guess you guys missed that whole Iraq thing where Sunnis are slaughtering Shiites and Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis and 650,000 have died? Yeah well, that wasn't really happening before especially not in such little time.
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Henry I ussually agree with you and I love your blog. But saying 650,000 People have died in Iraq is unrealistic. Like 12,000 Al-Qaeda members. We're not doing the killing. Shiites and Sunnis are killing eachother.
 
Well Lancet is pretty respected, so I dunno. It's probably more accurate than the way many of the studies are done which is by counting Newspaper reports. I agree we aren't killing very many civilians but the reason the civilians are getting killed is in reaction to our presence. As far as I know, there weren't daily news reports about how there were 50 casualties in a market after a bomb went off, or about 26 casualties being found after a suicide bomber blew himself up in a hotel before the war. I bet that if you compare the daily casualty rate as a result of the Iraq conflict and the Sudanese genocide, the figures would be similiar.

That said, Chavez is a real character. Alot of the stuff he says is just fiery populist hyperbole.
 
Originally Posted by LeftyHenry
I guess you guys missed that whole Iraq thing where Sunnis are slaughtering Shiites and Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis and 650,000 have died? Yeah well, that wasn't really happening before especially not in such little time.
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Yeah well, WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BUSH BEING GENOCIDAL??

Yeah, this is a result of the Bush Administration's "Policy". Forget the fact that that it isn't even the Americans slaughtering anybody (save a few isolated cases that Lefty will undoubtedly grasp at ir I don't feed him his stew). It is all to incite them to kill each other.

Way to go Lefty! :roll:
 
WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BUSH BEING GENOCIDAL??
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Nothing...
Just more Anti-American Anti-Capitalist Pro-Internationalist Rhetoric.
 
BodiSatva said:
Nothing...
Just more Anti-American Anti-Capitalist Pro-Internationalist Rhetoric.
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Chavez is just pissed because he didn't get a seat on the UN Security Council.

Chavez and Turkey are the same in that they are both usually full of s**t.

:mrgreen:
 
Johnny_Utah said:
Yeah well, WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BUSH BEING GENOCIDAL??

Yeah, this is a result of the Bush Administration's "Policy". Forget the fact that that it isn't even the Americans slaughtering anybody (save a few isolated cases that Lefty will undoubtedly grasp at ir I don't feed him his stew). It is all to incite them to kill each other.

Way to go Lefty! :roll:
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Well, isn't Bush responsible for his policies?
 
I will ask again:

Originally Posted by LeftyHenry
Sunnis are slaughtering Shiites and Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Utah
WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BUSH BEING GENOCIDAL??
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Because it sure as heck looks like it is the Sunnis and the Shiites that are being genocidal. Could you clarify what you mean please, because your statement is incorrect as it stands. Sunnis and the Shiites slaughtering each other has nothing to do with Bush or America either. This is simple Anti-American Propoganda. These barbaric factions have been slaughtering each other for a 1,500 years. I would just like you to blame those that warrent the blame.
 
Johnny_Utah said:
I will ask again:

Because it sure as heck looks like it is the Sunnis and the Shiites that are being genocidal. Could you clarify what you mean please, because your statement is incorrect as it stands. Sunnis and the Shiites slaughtering each other has nothing to do with Bush or America either. This is simple Anti-American Propoganda. These barbaric factions have been slaughtering each other for a 1,500 years. I would just like you to blame those that warrent the blame.
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Let me clarify. I don't think Bush is genocidal. I am simply explaining Chavez's point of view; Bush is genocidal in that his policy is causing the current genocide. Does that answer it?

Personally, I think the word genocide gets thrown around to much for any atrocity. You are right, Bush is not genocidal, but in the world's view, his policies are borderlining it. Chavez is just the most outspoken. You know the Frenchies are thinking the same thing ;)
 
LOriginally Posted by LeftyHenry
et me clarify. I don't think Bush is genocidal. I am simply explaining Chavez's point of view; Bush is genocidal in that his policy is causing the current genocide. Does that answer it?

Personally, I think the word genocide gets thrown around to much for any atrocity. You are right, Bush is not genocidal, but in the world's view, his policies are borderlining it. Chavez is just the most outspoken. You know the Frenchies are thinking the same thing
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Oh, I understand Chavez's point of view and what you think, but when the question is, "Chávez attacks Bush as a 'genocidal' leader" and people question this as illogical because Bush and America are not committing "Genocide" and you respond, "I guess you guys missed that whole Iraq thing where Sunnis are slaughtering Shiites and Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis and 650,000 have died? " it sure looks like you totally missed the picture and you think that the fact that they are doing so is Bush's fault, when it is an ongoing blood fued lasting a thousand years.

I hear you now, thanks for clarifying. I am seeking clarification instead of just lambasting you, since it seems you have valid points.
 
Johnny_Utah said:
Oh, I understand Chavez's point of view and what you think, but when the question is, "Chávez attacks Bush as a 'genocidal' leader" and people question this as illogical because Bush and America are not committing "Genocide" and you respond, "I guess you guys missed that whole Iraq thing where Sunnis are slaughtering Shiites and Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis and 650,000 have died? " it sure looks like you totally missed the picture and you think that the fact that they are doing so is Bush's fault, when it is an ongoing blood fued lasting a thousand years.

I hear you now, thanks for clarifying. I am seeking clarification instead of just lambasting you, since it seems you have valid points.
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ya well the concept is not batsh!t insane like everyone was claiming as it has a bit of logic too it, but ya I definately didn't make myself clear.
 
Good show old sport!

No, the concept is not bat-dung.
 
LeftyHenry said:
ya well the concept is not batsh!t insane like everyone was claiming as it has a bit of logic too it, but ya I definately didn't make myself clear.
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The concept is that Chavez is a radical lunatic who needs to seek out a good psychiatrist.
 
Vader said:
The concept is that Chavez is a radical lunatic who needs to seek out a good psychiatrist.
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He is the opposit of Bush who also need to find himself a psychiatrist and a teacher to teach him some basic things..
 
RightOfCenter said:
Hey, 60% of Venezuela Chavez is a radical lunatic who needs to seek out a good psychiatrist.
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A radical lunitic who provides the urban and rural poor masses with gas electricity, education, healthcare, and food subsidies, dropping the poverty percentage 10 percent in his administration so far. Outrageous eh?
 
Vader said:
Chavez is just pissed because he didn't get a seat on the UN Security Council.

Chavez and Turkey are the same in that they are both usually full of s**t.

:mrgreen:
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Now Turkey has been one of our allies for years, they fought in Korea, Vietnam, The Gulf war on our side. They let us use bases when we invaded Irag, Why are you bad mouthing Turkey? Is It just more religious bias?
 
Frankly, why do we care what Chavez thinks about Bush? Sc__w Chavez.

If anyone is gonna say bad thing about Bush, and his phoney little war, I want it to be me, I am loyal American citizen. Sc__w Bush.
 
LeftyHenry said:
A radical lunitic who provides the urban and rural poor masses with gas electricity, education, healthcare, and food subsidies, dropping the poverty percentage 10 percent in his administration so far. Outrageous eh?
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What has Bush done to drop poverty rates in the US? I hardly think spending 400 billion in Iraq helped.
 
I hear that chavez has helped his people a lot. I truly don't know.

We in the United States use have only a twenty percent of the population poverty rate, but under Bush that has increased back to where over fifty percent are now below what the IRA considers the poverty line. The statistic that get to me is that under time of the war on poverty we had over 40 million more people working and paying taxes. where are these taxpayers not.

Bush is the worse and most anti American people president in our history. Most of those that support him do it on the basis that he makes war and kills, supposedly for the United States.

Bush has his own private little war that is using US tax money at an astounding rate, and doing nothing for the security of the USA. We need start fighting Terrorists, instead of creating them. Under this Administration the USA is it's own worst enemy.
 
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