CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on

[sanman]

CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

A Congressional committee has found that CENTCOM, the US Middle Eastern Command, deliberately distorted intelligence reports in order to make the ISIS threat look not as severe as it was, in order to suit the political narrative back home:

Hard-hitting report accuses CENTCOM of manipulating ISIS intelligence - CBS News

Republicans and Democrats Agree: CENTCOM Cooked ISIS War Intel - The Daily Beast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-overly-upbeat-intelligence-on-islamic-state/



The Left-leaning Democrat-biased media are of course minimizing their coverage of damning revelations like this, choosing to instead pursue fault-finding attacks on Trump's speeches while simultaneously faulting Trump for allegedly preventing them from covering these stories of concern because of his "gaffes". Talk about Straw Man tactics.

 

[Exquisitor]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

A Congressional committee has found that CENTCOM, the US Middle Eastern Command, deliberately distorted intelligence reports in order to make the ISIS threat look not as severe as it was, in order to suit the political narrative back home:

Hard-hitting report accuses CENTCOM of manipulating ISIS intelligence - CBS News

Republicans and Democrats Agree: CENTCOM Cooked ISIS War Intel - The Daily Beast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-overly-upbeat-intelligence-on-islamic-state/



The Left-leaning Democrat-biased media are of course minimizing their coverage of damning revelations like this, choosing to instead pursue fault-finding attacks on Trump's speeches while simultaneously faulting Trump for allegedly preventing them from covering these stories of concern because of his "gaffes". Talk about Straw Man tactics.

You know, I think this is one of the things the Lord hates.

CBS News covered the story.

 

[NonoBadDog]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

A Congressional committee has found that CENTCOM, the US Middle Eastern Command, deliberately distorted intelligence reports in order to make the ISIS threat look not as severe as it was, in order to suit the political narrative back home:

Hard-hitting report accuses CENTCOM of manipulating ISIS intelligence - CBS News

Republicans and Democrats Agree: CENTCOM Cooked ISIS War Intel - The Daily Beast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-overly-upbeat-intelligence-on-islamic-state/



The Left-leaning Democrat-biased media are of course minimizing their coverage of damning revelations like this, choosing to instead pursue fault-finding attacks on Trump's speeches while simultaneously faulting Trump for allegedly preventing them from covering these stories of concern because of his "gaffes". Talk about Straw Man tactics.

Isis is a JV team. ISIS was losing power. Nothing to see here. The administration said so. Move on. I guess this is all in good hands.

I forgot the usual argument, "FAUX NEWS"!!!!!

 

[Moot]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

"While the report found intelligence was in fact manipulated by CENTCOM, the task force found no evidence that orders for those changes came from the White House."


The question is why would CENTCOM manipulate the evidence?

 

[Exquisitor]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

"While the report found intelligence was in fact manipulated by CENTCOM, the task force found no evidence that orders for those changes came from the White House."


The question is why would CENTCOM manipulate the evidence?

To #### with Iraqis?

 

[Moot]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

To #### with Iraqis?

Or to #### with ISIS?

 

[sanman]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

"While the report found intelligence was in fact manipulated by CENTCOM, the task force found no evidence that orders for those changes came from the White House."


The question is why would CENTCOM manipulate the evidence?

To please Obama and keep their jobs.

 

[Moot]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

To please Obama and keep their jobs.

Didn't you read the links in your OP?

 

[sanman]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Didn't you read the links in your OP?

The Obama Whitehouse may not have given specific orders - there is as yet no evidence to show this - however the complaints from analysts were that they were being pressured to conform to an expected narrative.

 

[Exquisitor]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

To please Obama and keep their jobs.

Corruption, and it ####s with everybody, ISIS, President, themselves and the public in many ways so it's the thing to do.

 

[Moot]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

The Obama Whitehouse may not have given specific orders - there is as yet no evidence to show this - however the complaints from analysts were that they were being pressured to conform to an expected narrative.

It's my understanding the analysts did their "job and accurately" ....but their work was being "changed at very senior levels" before sending it along to the military brass. I didn't see where the analysts complained about having to "conform to a narrative"....only that their "expert views weren't being given full weight."

"...There's enormous evidence about how this information from talented career professionals inside the analytic arm at CENTCOM did their job and accurately depicted what was going on the ground, but when it got to very senior levels, that information was changed," Pompeo said...." - CBS link

"...In the weeks after ISIS took control of Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, in June 2014, intelligence leaders were given a more direct say in how lower-level analysts’ reports were produced and then sent along to the military brass. That irked some analysts who, while outranked by the CENTCOM leaders, had been studying ISIS and other terrorist groups for years and thought their expert views weren’t being given full weight." - The Daily Beast link​

 

[sanman]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Your hairsplitting aside - the fact is that any of that qualifies as wrongdoing, no matter how you slice it.

Wrongdoing seems to be happening under this administration in very troubling ways that indicate a pattern. It's hard to compartmentalize the fact that Obama wants to play down the threat of ISIS and avoid acknowledging Islamic radicalism as a threat, while CENTCOM just happens to be coming out with reports that conform to that narrative. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[austrianecon]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Isis is a JV team. ISIS was losing power. Nothing to see here. The administration said so. Move on. I guess this is all in good hands.

I forgot the usual argument, "FAUX NEWS"!!!!!

What? ISIS a JV team? Was ISIS a JV team in Paris?

 

[austrianecon]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

"While the report found intelligence was in fact manipulated by CENTCOM, the task force found no evidence that orders for those changes came from the White House."


The question is why would CENTCOM manipulate the evidence?

All flag officers are nominated by the President for promotion?

 

[Utility Man]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

.....the complaints from analysts were that they were being pressured to conform to an expected narrative.

Reminds me of this here.



eace

 

[Thoreau72]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Gosh, it's hard to imagine our very own Pentagon presenting a purposeful withholding and distortion of facts. Heck, they haven't done that since the Pentagon Papers....:mrgreen:

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

What? ISIS a JV team? Was ISIS a JV team in Paris?

Literally anybody can shoot up a concert full of civvies to a good deal of effect. ISIS really is a JV team--- the problem is that there's no fighting force right now capable of totally eradicating them, which is why you have the slow slugging match as ISIS is forced out but by bit.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Your hairsplitting aside - the fact is that any of that qualifies as wrongdoing, no matter how you slice it.

Wrongdoing seems to be happening under this administration in very troubling ways that indicate a pattern. It's hard to compartmentalize the fact that Obama wants to play down the threat of ISIS and avoid acknowledging Islamic radicalism as a threat, while CENTCOM just happens to be coming out with reports that conform to that narrative. Coincidence? I think not.

This just smells like what we've repeatedly witnessed with this president and this administration. 'Reality be dammed, comply with the political narrative'.

Goes all the way back to 'You can keep you doctor' - political expediency, where the reality was you couldn't.

What a used car salesman this guy is. Any lie will do more so than the truth.

 

[NonoBadDog]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

What? ISIS a JV team? Was ISIS a JV team in Paris?

I was being sarcastic.

 

[Vern]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

"While the report found intelligence was in fact manipulated by CENTCOM, the task force found no evidence that orders for those changes came from the White House."


The question is why would CENTCOM manipulate the evidence?

They are the ones fighting ISIS. This is what we learned last year.

It is not clear whether the Centcom assessments significantly changed the Obama administration’s views about ISIS. While Centcom was largely positive about American gains, other agencies have been more pessimistic. The White House has generally been measured in its assessments.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/us/politics/military-reviews-us-response-to-isis-rise.html?_r=0

so the guys running the war tried to make it look like they were doing a better job and its instantly proof President Obama did it. We know for a fact that intel was manipulated that led to our invasion of Iraq but all we got was crickets.

 

[apdst]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

"While the report found intelligence was in fact manipulated by CENTCOM, the task force found no evidence that orders for those changes came from the White House."


The question is why would CENTCOM manipulate the evidence?

On orders from the president so that he didn't look like a putz.

 

[Moot]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

On orders from the president so that he didn't look like a putz.

Where did you read that?

 

[sanman]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Where did you read that?

Doesn't matter which media said it - what matters is that intel reports were being skewed, and that directive obviously had to come from somewhere higher up. The fact that a crime has been committed means somebody is guilty, and it's useless to pretend otherwise.

 

[Moot]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

Doesn't matter which media said it - what matters is that intel reports were being skewed, and that directive obviously had to come from somewhere higher up. The fact that a crime has been committed means somebody is guilty, and it's useless to pretend otherwise.

What matters is the evidence....and the links in your OP said there wasn't any evidence that orders to manipulate the intelligence came from the president. So it does matter who said it because they might have a political agenda to distort the truth and blame the wrong people....and you wouldn't want that, now would you?

Since there's no evidence of orders from the president...then why would leaders in CENTCOM manipulate the intelligence?

 

[NonoBadDog]

Re: CENTCOM Accused of Manipulating Intelligence on ISIS War

A Congressional committee has found that CENTCOM, the US Middle Eastern Command, deliberately distorted intelligence reports in order to make the ISIS threat look not as severe as it was, in order to suit the political narrative back home:

Hard-hitting report accuses CENTCOM of manipulating ISIS intelligence - CBS News

Republicans and Democrats Agree: CENTCOM Cooked ISIS War Intel - The Daily Beast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-overly-upbeat-intelligence-on-islamic-state/



The Left-leaning Democrat-biased media are of course minimizing their coverage of damning revelations like this, choosing to instead pursue fault-finding attacks on Trump's speeches while simultaneously faulting Trump for allegedly preventing them from covering these stories of concern because of his "gaffes". Talk about Straw Man tactics.

This is how generals get promoted. Feed happy BS to the boss. Tell him what he wants to hear just in time for an election. No negative brainwaves during an election.