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As has been pointed out to you, 100% turnover isn't abnormal in the business I was in and in fact was quite low, the best in the industry and believe me I did competitive surveys to find out. You immediately jumped on the quality of the company. You are right, I don't know if you ran a business just like you don't know what kind of company I ran. You immediately jumped on questioning the company which shows your partisan hackery. you showed once again that typical stereotyping that 100% is outrageous without knowing the circumstances? I call that making statements on a topic you know little about.
 

Considering that the turnover rate would also include filling the same position multiple times in a year. You could have some long term employee's but if you replace the midnight shift workers every 3 months you will still have a highe turnover while maintaining some experienced staff
 

I said I had 1200 on the payroll of 140 stores. LOL, had to take a shot, didn't you. Does that liberal arrogance serve you well? I only wish I could be half as smart as you think you are.
 

Starting to figure it out? A location with 8 employees might 2 or 3 employees turning over more than once for various reasons. I am sure you can figure out how that could add up to 1200 in a year. I suggest you read actually what I post instead of what you want to see, like a chain of 1200 stores instead of 1200 employees.
 

All you're doing is demonstrating that you cannot discuss any topic without placing blame on external sources and without making pointless partisan hack statements. Your bias is clear as glass. If your turnover rate is that high, you need to look at the company, also. But you refuse, because of your hack blinders. For you to assume that 100% employee turnover has nothing to do with the company demonstrates partisan hackery and complete lack of objectivity. This is not surprising, as this is what defines your posts.
 

It still wouldn't get to 100%, unless you're using some sort of weird math.
 

Starting to figure it out?


LOL

I know what turnover rates mean and how they can be high, when you have to fill the same position multiple times. 100% is still quite high for all employees
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It still wouldn't get to 100%, unless you're using some sort of weird math.
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well in all fairness if a company lasts long enough it will have 100% turnover:mrgreen:

everyone who was an employee of P&G when my great grandfather was a director no longer works there (they are all long dead!)
 
Conservative said:
I said I had 1200 on the payroll of 140 stores. LOL, had to take a shot, didn't you. Does that liberal arrogance serve you well? I only wish I could be half as smart as you think you are.
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I wish you were half as smart as I actually am


As for taking a shot, turnabout is fairplay is it not?
 
TurtleDude said:
well in all fairness if a company lasts long enough it will have 100% turnover:mrgreen:

everyone who was an employee of P&G when my great grandfather was a director no longer works there (they are all long dead!)
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That's true, but he's saying EVERY YEAR the turnover rate is 100%.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It still wouldn't get to 100%, unless you're using some sort of weird math.
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You certainly don't know much about the industry but that doesn't stop you from judging me or my performance. Who is placing blame other than you? What blame have I placed? Then please dazzle me with your intellectual superiority by telling me what in my post is partisan hackery? I really suggest that you gain more experience in my industry before telling me that it is the company's fault for 100% turnover. How long would you expect a part time employee to work? How about promotions and replacing those individuals? How about full time employees deciding to go back to college under our college reimbursement program? You might want to reconsider the tone of your posts.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I wish you were half as smart as I actually am


As for taking a shot, turnabout is fairplay is it not?
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You are right, you are a legend in your own mind. No one can be as smart as you say you are, totally impossible.
 
TurtleDude said:
well in all fairness if a company lasts long enough it will have 100% turnover:mrgreen:

everyone who was an employee of P&G when my great grandfather was a director no longer works there (they are all long dead!)
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In the end you are all dead (I plan on living for ever)

But 100% turnover per year is quite high


The company I am with is a seasonal business. Most workers are hired for periods of 2-8 months per year, a few work for 10 months per year. We dont have anything near a 100% turnover and at least 50% return year after year with only those workers at the bottom of the senority list tending to quit and find other work (seasonal work is not exactly income stable)
 
How is there to be any honest and frank discussion of the issues when some of you insist on demonizing those who simply see things differently than you and painting them in the most negative of light simply to make your own views look nobler?
 
Conservative said:
You are right, you are a legend in your own mind. No one can be as smart as you say you are, totally impossible.
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Not really I am above average in intelligence, but no where in that department

Which is why I feel sorry for you. To be above the drooling moron status must be a hardship for you
 
TurtleDude said:
I know, i was hoping to get things back on track. I failed:doh
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My post that you responded to has taken off on a tangent due to some not wanting to address the actual content of that post. Instead they want to make the turnover rate the issue,not the salary, not the benefits, not the bonuses, but ignoring that there are a lot of bad people that steal and take advantage of every situation, something that liberals ignore.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Not really I am above average in intelligence, but no where in that department

Which is why I feel sorry for you. To be above the drooling moron status must be a hardship for you
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It really is, but a cross that I have to bare for a lifetime. Somehow I will just muddle through it. Don't feel sorry for me, I will survive. At least my 5 grandkids still love me. Don't tell them what a failure I am, ok?
 

Here you go. Here are your hack statements... in this thread alone. There's not enough bandwidth on the internet to catalague all of them from this site:

Conservative said:
In spite of this I had employees steal from the company with one employee stealing over $75000. These are the people liberals refuse to acknowledge exist and are the ones they want tax dollars to help.
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Conservative said:
I said I had 1200 on the payroll of 140 stores. LOL, had to take a shot, didn't you. Does that liberal arrogance serve you well? I only wish I could be half as smart as you think you are.
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That was easy. And yes, you are placing the blame solely on the employees, not considering possible alternatives. THIS rigidity sounds like a reason that the company had so much turnover... but of course, you would never consider looking at things objectively, and considering all possible options.

As far as the tone of my posts, it will change when you stop posting like a blind partisan hack and look at situations less inflexibly. I'll be waiting.
 

And there are a lot of bad companies out there... something that conservatives ignore. See? You post like a hack, and I'll respond showing how ridiculous your comments are. I can do this all day. If you don't want me to keep demonstrating how hackish you post, stop doing it.
 
Store Owners Tackle HR Issues - Features - Convenience Store News - Single Store Owner

The above link is about managing employee turnover at small retain type oulets

From looking at various stats it would appear the turn over rate is generally about 55% for non managment staff for the companies that responded to the survey
 

What the hell are you talking about, those are real life stories and issues. Haven't heard one liberal address the employee problems and that there are bad employees in the business world, people that steal, people that cheat but it is always the companies fault. now if you want to address the reality have at it, but your strawman is just that, made out of straw. I posted the salary range, benefits, and opportunities for advancement which are real yet that didn't stop you from making your accusations. Notice that you didn't respond when I asked about part time employees, people going back to college, second income employees that left to stay at home, or any number of other reasons other than a bad company for turnover. Your partisanship is truly showing and now I can honestly say that I believe you have never run a business or ever had your own money invested in anything. Had you, then you wouldn't be making statements like you are making.

Pretty easy to ignore the shots I have taken in this forum, isn't it?
 

So are you ever going to focus on the fact that it isn't always the company's fault for high turnover and that even C-Store News has significant turnover? Why would a company have 55% turnover? Must be bad companies, right?
 

That is a partisan hack statement. Have you spoken to EVERY liberal? Your overgeneralizations are SO easy to expose. Tell us why no conservatives ever consider that there might be bad companies? See how ridiculous that sounds? Every bit as ridiculous as what you said.

now if you want to address the reality have at it, but your strawman is just that, made out of straw. I posted the salary range, benefits, and opportunities for advancement which are real yet that didn't stop you from making your accusations.
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Your strawman is what is the issue. That liberals always blame companies and the employees are always at fault. I know you hate looking in the mirror because it messes with your worldview, but you might find some objectivity if you did. And you wouldn't get confronted on your hackery so often.

Notice that you didn't respond when I asked about part time employees, people going back to college, second income employees that left to stay at home, or any number of other reasons other than a bad company for turnover.
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You didn't mention them until several posts later. But notice that you didn't mention poor management, poor hiring practices, or poor working conditions for reasons for turnover. You just blamed the employees for the turnover.

You make this SO easy.

Your partisanship is truly showing and now I can honestly say that I believe you have never run a business or ever had your own money invested in anything. Had you, then you wouldn't be making statements like you are making.
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Your partisanship is, as usual, showing completely, it makes me believe that if you HAD run a company, if it failed it was because you refused to look at any reasons other than those that fit your narrow partisanship.

So easy.

Pretty easy to ignore the shots I have taken in this forum, isn't it?
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If you don't want shots, cease the partisan hackery. It's that simple.
 

Conservative has ignored no such thing, I stole a lot of employees from bad companies, promoted many of those same employees into management positions. Still waiting for you to show how ridiculous my comments are? What I spoke was the truth, companies aren't always to blame for turnover. time for a little fair and balanced look.
 
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