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On one level I agree with you and on the other I disagree strongly.
The anti-gay marriage crowd consists primarily of hate groups sprinkled with a dose of ignorance. There are very very few people against gay marriage that don't fit into one of the two groups.
It's sad that you think that way. I cannot believe you have been so sheltered here in LA as to believe that things are that black and white.
Maybe I am sheltered living in LA...but the rest of the nation could take a lesson from LA. I find LA to be a very "live and let live" community. The rest of the Country should be that way.
I have yet to hear anyone make a good argument that places the anti gay marriage crowd outside of either the hate group or the ignorant group.
Maybe there is one...I just haven't heard it.
Religious groups. Many libertarians. Just old folks who can't wrap their mind around the concept. People like my own grandparents on one side of the family. :shrug:
Libertarians...on the other hand...if they are true "libertarians" would never be against gay marriage.
Correct. I'm not sure where that libertarian comment came from. Libertarians are to the left of liberals when it comes to government non-involvement in personal affairs.Libertarians...on the other hand...if they are true "libertarians" would never be against gay marriage.
Which means they would be against anti-gay marriage legislation. Saying government shouldn't recognize marriage has nothing to do with prohibiting gay marriage.Really? Because I have found that libertarians tend to be against any expansion of government involvement in marriage. Any expansion of government period, actually.
That's not ignorant or hateful at all.
Really? Because I have found that libertarians tend to be against any expansion of government involvement in marriage. Any expansion of government period, actually.
That's not ignorant or hateful at all.
Correct. I'm not sure where that libertarian comment came from. Libertarians are to the left of liberals when it comes to government non-involvement in personal affairs.
Ok, as the topic here is gay mariage. I feel compelled to suggest a solution to the whole problem. This solution was actually proposed by my little brother, and it makes a lot of sense to me:
Here it goes:
The government gives out civil unions (not the crappy half-hearted ones now; basically what is a civil mariage license today) to everyone. Hetero- and homosexual couples alike. Then, religious institutions can MARRY anyone who meets their own religious requirements. Then everyone is happy. All couples are equal in the government's eyes, but mariage is still betweena man and a woman in most religions.
Really? Because I have found that libertarians tend to be against any expansion of government involvement in marriage. Any expansion of government period, actually.
That's not ignorant or hateful at all.
The libertarian comment came from this being precisely my point.
WRONG, many libertarians are against the FEDERAL government expanstion, but have no problem with the state level of it.
Let's be clear, libertarians are against federal involvement, but have no problem with state level hate.
It was Ron Paul after all that said the idea of slavery should have been left to the states and not federal.
WRONG, many libertarians are against the FEDERAL government expanstion, but have no problem with the state level of it.
Let's be clear, libertarians are against federal involvement, but have no problem with state level hate.
It was Ron Paul after all that said the idea of slavery should have been left to the states and not federal.
Ron Paul was not indicative of most libertarians in my experience. He was a bat**** crazy loon.
???but that wasn't your point.....was it????
Actually he has been embraced by the libertarians.
He was rejected by conservatives.
Yes. That the libertarian argument is against expansion of government involvement in marriage. No hate or ignorance toward gays. Just keeping with their idealogy.
Yes. That the libertarian argument is against expansion of government involvement in marriage. No hate or ignorance toward gays. Just keeping with their idealogy.
By some libertarians.
Ok....I see....I just see it differently in that government involvement in marriage is taking a stand to impose government restrictions. I think most libertarians think government should not be involved at all....which would be a much more pro-gay marriage stance.
By MOST. .
By some libertarians.
By Most, read my last post.
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