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Capitol Police Told to Hold Back on Riot Response on Jan. 6, Report Finds

You go ahead and believe that.,

Does not matter what you or I believe. The Capitol Police do not answer to the White House. They are under control of Congress. Ever heard of Nancy Pelosi?
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/capitol-police-riot-report.html
Capitol Police Told to Hold Back on Riot Response on Jan. 6, Report Finds
Despite being tipped that “Congress itself is the target” on Jan. 6, Capitol Police were ordered not to use their most powerful crowd-control weapons, according to a scathing new watchdog report.

The report offers the most devastating account to date of the lapses and miscalculations around the most violent attack on the Capitol in two centuries.

WASHINGTON — The Capitol Police had clearer advance warnings about the Jan. 6 attack than were previously known, including the potential for violence in which “Congress itself is the target.” But officers were instructed by their leaders not to use their most aggressive tactics to hold off the mob, according to a scathing new report by the agency’s internal investigator.

Mr. Bolton found that the agency’s leaders failed to adequately prepare despite explicit warnings that pro-Trump extremists posed a threat to law enforcement and civilians and that the police used defective protective equipment. He also found that the leaders ordered their Civil Disturbance Unit to refrain from using its most powerful crowd-control tools — like stun grenades — to put down the onslaught.

Three days before the siege, a Capitol Police intelligence assessment warned of violence from supporters of President Donald J. Trump who believed his false claims that the election had been stolen. Some had even posted a map of the Capitol complex’s tunnel system on pro-Trump message boards.

“Unlike previous post-election protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter-protesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th,” the threat assessment said, according to the inspector general’s report. “Stop the Steal’s propensity to attract white supremacists, militia members, and others who actively promote violence may lead to a significantly dangerous situation for law enforcement and the general public alike.”
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If there is a second attempt at this type of insurrection, I damned well hope the cops are prepared to use all the force necessary to end it quickly.

I don’t want to deal with the “create an account” business to read one article, so who are the “agency leaders” who gave the order to withhold force, and to whom did they report?
 
I don’t want to deal with the “create an account” business to read one article, so who are the “agency leaders” who gave the order to withhold force, and to whom did they report?

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol​

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...d-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/
The several hundred troops posted around downtown D.C. on Wednesday were there at the request of Mayor Muriel Bowser, to support local police.

“We had worked out that the support we were providing the [Metropolitan] Police Department would be on traffic control points,” the source said, including downtown subway stations and select blocks, where teams of two Guardsmen and several vehicles were keeping the streets clear of cars.

Bowser put in a request for support Dec. 31, Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told reporters on Thursday.

The Defense Department was in contact with Capital Police ahead of Tuesday and Wednesday’s protests, Kenneth Rapuano, the assistant defense secretary for homeland defense, told reporters during a press call on Thursday. They asserted that they would not be requesting National Guard support, he said.

DCNG announced Monday it had mobilized 340 troops to support MPD, but that organization’s jurisdiction does not cover any federal land within the District, and so its officers ― and its Guard support ― could not have just rushed to the Capitol.

Further, once they got there, Guard troops who had been acting in a traffic control capacity, not as law enforcement, would not have been able or authorized to forcibly push back rioters or help clear the building, a task that fell to the Capitol Police and the FBI tactical forces they requested to help out.

So when chaos unfolded Wednesday afternoon and reports surfaced that there had been a request for additional Guard troops and the Defense Department had denied it, here’s what really happened.

Because of D.C.’s finicky federal status, any entity ― whether its the mayor, or the Interior Department, which controls federal parks within the District ― has to put in a request for National Guard troops through the Army secretary, who gets it endorsed by the defense secretary.

The Capitol’s request for Guard back-up went beyond what Bowser had already gotten approved, so it needed a new sign-off.

“We quickly worked to move our resources forward in support of Metro PD and the Capitol Police,” McCarthy said Thursday.

The process took about an hour, the source familiar told Military Times, from the time McCarthy received it around 2 p.m. on Wednesday.

“We wanted to make sure, based off what we saw developing, that that was an acceptable use, all the way up to the SECDEF, which didn’t take long,” the source said, including about half an hour spent relaying the request to acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller.
 
This report is utterly worthless unless they name names of those who made the decision. I'm guessing it won't be flattering for the "wrong" people so they make a generalized comment about "leaders" without holding them accountable.
This is precisely why there needs to be a 9-11 commission established to get to the bottom of this.
 
Does not matter what you or I believe. The Capitol Police do not answer to the White House. They are under control of Congress. Ever heard of Nancy Pelosi?

To wallow in the fantasy that The President of the USA had no role in the lack of a proper police response to the right wing insurrectionists is sheer folly and dangerously approaching willful insanity.
 
The President doesn't have authority over the police force, lol. What an utterly stupid ****ing comment.
To willfully blind yourself to the reality that the President of the USA played a very deliberate role in the lack of proper police response to the right wing insurrectionists is approaching intentional insanity.
 
This is precisely why there needs to be a 9-11 commission established to get to the bottom of this.
Why would they do a 9-11 commission?
 
To willfully blind yourself to the reality that the President of the USA played a very deliberate role in the lack of proper police response to the right wing insurrectionists is approaching intentional insanity.
No...I'm just not so ****ing ignorant that I think that the President has anything at all to do with the police. You should be directing your ire at the D.C. mayor. You know...the real person in charge of the police?
 
No...I'm just not so ****ing ignorant that I think that the President has anything at all to do with the police. You should be directing your ire at the D.C. mayor. You know...the real person in charge of the police?

The ignorance is in believing that Trump had nothing to do with the response to the Jan 6 rioters.
 
The ignorance is in believing that Trump had nothing to do with the response to the Jan 6 rioters.
The police where given orders to hold back by their leadership. Who is in charge of the police?
 
The police where given orders to hold back by their leadership. Who is in charge of the police?

At the top of the mountain of reeking crap in Washington DC was President Donald Trump. His influence on everything there is only underestimated by the intentionally mentally ill and the willfully blind.
 
At the top of the mountain of reeking crap in Washington DC was President Donald Trump. His influence on everything there is only underestimated by the intentionally mentally ill and the willfully blind.

Who's in charge of the police?
 
Why would they do a 9-11 commission?
The 9/11 Commission was a successful effort that produced a report that drove major reform of the U.S. intelligence community. Insurrectionists made no effort to hide their intentions, they planned this for weeks before 1/6, and in plain sight, but law enforcement protecting Congress was caught flat-footed. A 1/6 Commission would shed additional light on the facts to ensure something like that never happens again
 
The 9/11 Commission was a successful effort that produced a report that drove major reform of the U.S. intelligence community. Insurrectionists made no effort to hide their intentions, they planned this for weeks before 1/6, and in plain sight, but law enforcement protecting Congress was caught flat-footed. A 1/6 Commission would shed additional light on the facts to ensure something like that never happens again
Oh...I agree that more needs to be looked into here, and names to be named. I just was confused about the way you worded it. It made it sound like you thought 9/11 was a type of investigation and not just the name for the investigation into 9/11.
 
To wallow in the fantasy that The President of the USA had no role in the lack of a proper police response to the right wing insurrectionists is sheer folly and dangerously approaching willful insanity.

As usual, you are just spinning what you clearly do not know. The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is overseen by the Capitol Police Board and has Congressional oversight by appropriations and authorizing committees from the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. The president has no authority over them whatsoever. And a request for the national guard on January 4th by the Capitol Police was rejected by both houses of congress .
 
As usual, you are just spinning what you clearly do not know. The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is overseen by the Capitol Police Board and has Congressional oversight by appropriations and authorizing committees from the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. The president has no authority over them whatsoever. And a request for the national guard on January 4th by the Capitol Police was rejected by both houses of congress .
And the latest news that the police were told to only look for anti-Trump protesters seems to have fallen on your deaf ears.

 
And the latest news that the police were told to only look for anti-Trump protesters seems to have fallen on your deaf ears.


You are attempting to divert from the point I am making. That point is that the Capitol Police are not under the jurisdiction of the White House. They are controlled by Congress.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/capitol-police-riot-report.html
Capitol Police Told to Hold Back on Riot Response on Jan. 6, Report Finds
Despite being tipped that “Congress itself is the target” on Jan. 6, Capitol Police were ordered not to use their most powerful crowd-control weapons, according to a scathing new watchdog report.

The report offers the most devastating account to date of the lapses and miscalculations around the most violent attack on the Capitol in two centuries.

WASHINGTON — The Capitol Police had clearer advance warnings about the Jan. 6 attack than were previously known, including the potential for violence in which “Congress itself is the target.” But officers were instructed by their leaders not to use their most aggressive tactics to hold off the mob, according to a scathing new report by the agency’s internal investigator.

Mr. Bolton found that the agency’s leaders failed to adequately prepare despite explicit warnings that pro-Trump extremists posed a threat to law enforcement and civilians and that the police used defective protective equipment. He also found that the leaders ordered their Civil Disturbance Unit to refrain from using its most powerful crowd-control tools — like stun grenades — to put down the onslaught.

Three days before the siege, a Capitol Police intelligence assessment warned of violence from supporters of President Donald J. Trump who believed his false claims that the election had been stolen. Some had even posted a map of the Capitol complex’s tunnel system on pro-Trump message boards.

“Unlike previous post-election protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter-protesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th,” the threat assessment said, according to the inspector general’s report. “Stop the Steal’s propensity to attract white supremacists, militia members, and others who actively promote violence may lead to a significantly dangerous situation for law enforcement and the general public alike.”
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If there is a second attempt at this type of insurrection, I damned well hope the cops are prepared to use all the force necessary to end it quickly.
Apparently the rogue cop that shot Ashli Babbitt didnt get the message.
 
You are attempting to divert from the point I am making. That point is that the Capitol Police are not under the jurisdiction of the White House. They are controlled by Congress.
You seem to be hung up on the way things are suppose to be in the law rather than how it happened in reality.
 
To willfully blind yourself to the reality that the President of the USA played a very deliberate role in the lack of proper police response to the right wing insurrectionists is approaching intentional insanity.
So far as we've seen yet in this thread/forum, there's currently no evidence for that. In those circumstances I think "intentional insanity" would be copying Trump's own playbook of adamantly crying conspiracy regardless. I'd guess that most likely it was nine parts cokc-up; and if there happened to be a Trump sympathizer or two in the right places in the chain of command, that still needn't imply any "very deliberate role" of the president himself in that aspect of the events. Without evidence, speculation is pretty pointless.
 
You seem to be hung up on the way things are suppose to be in the law rather than how it happened in reality.

You claimed that Trump had power over the Capitol Police. I am just attempting to educate you that he did not. If anything, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell at the time had oversight. When you learn that the Capitol Police are not under the jurisdiction of the White House, we can discuss further.
 
You claimed that Trump had power over the Capitol Police. I am just attempting to educate you that he did not. If anything, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell at the time had oversight. When you learn that the Capitol Police are not under the jurisdiction of the White House, we can discuss further.
Trump had vast INFLUENCE and SWAY over wide areas of what happens in Washington as is indicated by the directive to NOT target pro Trump protestors who stormed the building which gave them license to do their worst after Trump personally directed them to go there and create their particular version of anarchy. You seem to overlook that in favor of a mindless repetition of written law.
 
So far as we've seen yet in this thread/forum, there's currently no evidence for that. In those circumstances I think "intentional insanity" would be copying Trump's own playbook of adamantly crying conspiracy regardless. I'd guess that most likely it was nine parts cokc-up; and if there happened to be a Trump sympathizer or two in the right places in the chain of command, that still needn't imply any "very deliberate role" of the president himself in that aspect of the events. Without evidence, speculation is pretty pointless.
Trump had a very deliberate role starting with his directive to march to the building and make their grievances known.
 
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!!!
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/capitol-police-riot-report.html
Capitol Police Told to Hold Back on Riot Response on Jan. 6, Report Finds
Despite being tipped that “Congress itself is the target” on Jan. 6, Capitol Police were ordered not to use their most powerful crowd-control weapons, according to a scathing new watchdog report.

The report offers the most devastating account to date of the lapses and miscalculations around the most violent attack on the Capitol in two centuries.

WASHINGTON — The Capitol Police had clearer advance warnings about the Jan. 6 attack than were previously known, including the potential for violence in which “Congress itself is the target.” But officers were instructed by their leaders not to use their most aggressive tactics to hold off the mob, according to a scathing new report by the agency’s internal investigator.

Mr. Bolton found that the agency’s leaders failed to adequately prepare despite explicit warnings that pro-Trump extremists posed a threat to law enforcement and civilians and that the police used defective protective equipment. He also found that the leaders ordered their Civil Disturbance Unit to refrain from using its most powerful crowd-control tools — like stun grenades — to put down the onslaught.

Three days before the siege, a Capitol Police intelligence assessment warned of violence from supporters of President Donald J. Trump who believed his false claims that the election had been stolen. Some had even posted a map of the Capitol complex’s tunnel system on pro-Trump message boards.

“Unlike previous post-election protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter-protesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th,” the threat assessment said, according to the inspector general’s report. “Stop the Steal’s propensity to attract white supremacists, militia members, and others who actively promote violence may lead to a significantly dangerous situation for law enforcement and the general public alike.”
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If there is a second attempt at this type of insurrection, I damned well hope the cops are prepared to use all the force necessary to end it quickly.
The left wanted all law enforcement across the country all summer long to hold back on protesters.
 
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