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Canada and the West are at war with "russian" empire whether they want it or not: military experts

And that is where you learned of the Lada class D/E subs and their capabilities... Right?

Hell, the Kilo class wasn't even operational then.

Weren't the Tangos all the rage?


Kilo class submarines were first laid down in 1980.

But development started earlier.
 
Maybe now seeing it was de classed back around 1995
Yes you might know about how it did work now but before 1995 all that was out there was it tracked ships and subs
in fact there is stuff on the system that is classified and may never be de-classed
Have a nice night
 
Submerged on electric the Ladas can do 20+ knots on electric. And they are quiet doing so. Far quieter than the Kilos who were nicknamed 'black holes'.

And a range of up to 450Km.
And I Won't say if but when They , WE or anybody gets the Glass Lithium Battery where they can be used on subs they might not have to surface for weeks if not more,
and as quiet as they are they will be a bad ass weapon
that is what I am afraid of.
have a nice night
 
Canada and the West are at war with "russian" (Muscovite) empire whether they want it or not: military experts.

Great article, i say sanctions more more, Oil - Gas- SWIFT etc. Iranian sanctions on ozero today , we must finish off Moscow´s horde (empire), not provoke it with so - called "resets " and shadow deals with this crime cartel ozero



Russian aggression is the greatest challenge facing Canada and Western democracies right now as the Kremlin tries to dismantle the rules-based international order that’s existed since the end of the Second World War, military experts are warning.

And as a result, some say Canada and its allies should consider themselves already at war with Russia.

“This is not an interwar period. The war is on,” said Frederick Kagan, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and an expert on critical threats.

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The Arctic is no longer a fortress wall and our oceans are no longer protective moats, they are now avenues of approach for advanced conventional weapons and the platforms that carry them,”


we stand with our brothers!!! down to Gingizide Moscow
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Russia plans to beat Canada and the US in the race for Arctic hydrocarbon resources by establishing control of over 60% of them via recognition of its right to the Lomonosov Ridge by the special UN Commission which may take place as early as 2021.



According to earlier statements by Dmitry Medvedev, a member of the Russian Security Council, Russia is planning to “more vigorously defend its claims for the development of Arctic mining fields” amid the attempts of rivals to limit its access to these resources.

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Russia preparing to beat Canada in race for Arctic resources ...
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9 Nov 2020 — Russia plans to beat Canada and the US in the race for Arctic ... in the Arctic was 4.7 million km2, which is 600,000 km2 less compared to 2007.
 
we stand with our brothers!!! down to Gingizide Moscow
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Russia plans to beat Canada and the US in the race for Arctic hydrocarbon resources by establishing control of over 60% of them via recognition of its right to the Lomonosov Ridge by the special UN Commission which may take place as early as 2021.

According to earlier statements by Dmitry Medvedev, a member of the Russian Security Council, Russia is planning to “more vigorously defend its claims for the development of Arctic mining fields” amid the attempts of rivals to limit its access to these resources.
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Russia preparing to beat Canada in race for Arctic resources ...
resourceworld.com › russia-preparing-to-beat-canada-i...


9 Nov 2020 — Russia plans to beat Canada and the US in the race for Arctic ... in the Arctic was 4.7 million km2, which is 600,000 km2 less compared to 2007.

Gingizide Moscow = Stupid phrase.

What is sad is that you don't know enough history to understand why.
 
What about china? That's not a vastly superior threat to old former soviet platforms?

We are dealing with China also. They are not a threat to Europe and the U.S. like Putin is. Putin wants the west to fall, China needs our economy and market to be strong or they suffer too. It's night and day.
 
We are dealing with China also. They are not a threat to Europe and the U.S. like Putin is. Putin wants the west to fall, China needs our economy and market to be strong or they suffer too. It's night and day.
great post It's night and day. you are 100% right , the hans are ready for compromises, Moscow wants to destroy the our democratic civilization



How Putin Built an Empire of Tyrants and Failing States | Time
https://time.com › World › russia



Bolton said the U.S. still sends more than $8 billion in aid to Africa each year, much of it to help fight AIDS and ...
 
We are dealing with China also. They are not a threat to Europe and the U.S. like Putin is. Putin wants the west to fall, China needs our economy and market to be strong or they suffer too. It's night and day.
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Let us begin with this evident fact: Russia does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Russia and the Russians by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided...This misconception has real and important implications for managing the relationship with Russia as a country. The assumptions and preconcep-tions of its leadership are so much at odds with what is taken for granted as common ground in the Euro-Atlantic community that a false impression of similarity provides fertile ground for misunderstandings, miscommunica-tion, and miscalculation. ....


 
Damn geography is so hard!
 
ps
Let us begin with this evident fact: Russia does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Russia and the Russians by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided...This misconception has real and important implications for managing the relationship with Russia as a country. The assumptions and preconcep-tions of its leadership are so much at odds with what is taken for granted as common ground in the Euro-Atlantic community that a false impression of similarity provides fertile ground for misunderstandings, miscommunica-tion, and miscalculation. ....



PS

Russia is recognized as being EUROPE even though much of Siberia is in Asia...

Russia and Russians...

Not "Muscovy" or "Muscovites"

The author uses neither of those terms.

You are falsely editing what the author states.

Your hatred for RUSSIA causes you to dishonestly edit out the name of the country and the name of its leader....
 
In other words you wouldnt have known of their capabilities in the 1970s.
during the 70's and we had knowledge of the Kilo class and that they would have D/E drive
it takes several years of planing and then several years to build a sub.
so there was some knowledge of what they were going to be back in the 70's
Have a nice night
 
during the 70's and we had knowledge of the Kilo class and that they would have D/E drive
it takes several years of planing and then several years to build a sub.
so there was some knowledge of what they were going to be back in the 70's
Have a nice night

They knew it would be D/E....

Yep.

D/E

OK.

They knew it would be D/E.

You knew little to nothing of the capabilities of the class until they were out in the wild.
 
They knew it would be D/E....

Yep.

D/E

OK.

They knew it would be D/E.

You knew little to nothing of the capabilities of the class until they were out in the wild.
You seem to be underestimating the capabilities of our intelligence people.
and they knew it was an attack sub. ( a anti sub sub not a ssb like the Golf and Hotel class were)
we also knew about the Papa class, typhoon class, alfa class
that was when I was in in 72/73
you seem to forget about us getting a lot of info from the Golf class sub ( that sunk ) we picked up back in 1974 the K 129
that had Nuke missiles and inscription equipment. on it.
Have a nice night
 
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