Can you tell me why older Americans would go to the trump rallies with covid.

[countryboy]

I am in my middles 70"s and am very, very careful about where I go. I mostly stay at home with the epidemic in full swing in my state and county. Then I see on the news all of these people, but especially the older ones, at Trump rallies without even wearing masks. Today it was in Florida and the covid is once again heating up in that state. I know younger people feel invulnerable, but older people are not. 79% of all deaths in the country are those over 65 and most of the older people I saw at the Trump rally in the audience were much older than 65. So can you tell me why they would risk their lives just to cheer anyone, even the person they want as the next president? I just do not understand. explain it to me please.

It's called liberty. But I can understand how that would be a foreign concept to a lib.

 

[Rawley]

You do realize that a majority of people arrested ad BLM protests were white supremacy members who were there to start trouble so it got blamed on BLM members. So the fact that this man attended a BLM protest really means nothing, but I suspect you already knew that.

No. Not at all. Love to read about that. Do have some links?

 

[Ginger Ale]

But, for the most part, 10s of Millions of Trump supporters do NOT end up in the Hospital later, almost dead. They get a bad flu, and after a few days, get better. Sometimes they never notice getting Covid19 at all, yet end up testing positive for the Covid19 Antibodies.

As I said earlier in this thread, in reply to someone who stated that all Trump supporters never wear masks or social distance,... because all Trump supporters are mentally retarded...



Simple logic says, that what we are being told about Trump Supporters, and Covid19, CANNOT be true, or there would be Millions of Dead Trump Supporters.

And simple examination shows that:

1] 99.99% of Trump Supporters are not mentally retarded.

2] Most Trump Supporters do sometimes wear masks, when it seems warranted.

3] Most Trump Supporters do sometimes social distance, when it seems warranted.

4] Covid19 is not near as lethal as it was feared it might be in the first few months of the crisis. Covid19 does NOT have the 35+% death rate of SARS. In hindsight, the Covid19 death rate is about 3x that of the AVERAGE seasonal flu. And those deaths tend to be concentrated in small demographic groups of people with significant other health problems, due to age, or possibly kidney, liver, lung damage, or Diabetes. ( Both my wife and I belong to those at high risk!)

5] The negative economic impact of the Covid19 shutdowns is severe! Much worse than most predicted, and is likely to cause far, far more damage, than even having every single high-risk person die.

6] The country can die from a significantly high death rate virus. The country can die from significantly over-restrictive economic impacting mandates from over-reaching Government. Either way, the Nation dies.

7] The DNC and Democratic Party hoped to mis-use and abuse the Covid19 response to smear the reputation of Trump and the Trump Voters, and it backfired badly!

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The mandate should cover those Trump supporters, and others because it isn't just them. Itś everyone who doesn't wear a mask and practice PPE. Those who already wore a mask will just appreciate the added prevention this brings.
Trump failed in his attempt to brush off this virus if he had listened and implemented what experts said we would have cut the amount of death and illness by 3/4. We would be in a similar position as countries that did listen to them.

It's not just about what you think our personal risk equates to. It's about how much illness our current healthcare infrastructure can handle with an additional virus added that has triple the death rate, and a much higher hospital rate to recover than the flu. It impacts all other conditions and makes it less likely people with other conditions get the care they need for those, bringing the death rate for those up as well. We can't handle it. We arent building hospitals like China, we are just burdening the ones we have. Our hospitals already had a hard time handling the flu in a bad year.

We could have subsidized income during the first shutdown, mandated masks, and PPE, and protected businesses. Instead, we opened up, didn't require PPE, and played a vicious game of covid roulette on business owners, and their employees to try and stimulate our economy. We pitted starving people against state mandates by ignoring their need for subsidies. It's cruel, and yes, people are on the losing end.

Of course, they freaked out having to monitor unmasked customers, throwing fits, and trying to keep themselves safe during political unrest, lockdown protests, civil rights protests, and anti masks advocates. Then there's the fringe like QAnon, militia, etc. acting like this virus isn't real. What a mess.

Our economy won't recover without proper handling of this virus, consumer confidence can't be forced, it has to be earned. It won't matter if we open while a virus is raging through states. It won't matter if we weigh out our personal risk. As a whole, America needs everyone to spend to survive economically. America lives paycheck to paycheck. Trump did so much wrong that the world is watching our demise. It didn't need to be this way, and nobody expected it would.

Hopefully, Biden handles it better. We need national mandates, and funding so these people don't feel the need to fight for an income while we put out this fire. If we get the spread down below 5%, we can just spot treat while everyone goes about their business with only occasional disruptions. We have good examples now, we just need to implement them. We have never ended the first wave. Time to start over.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

No, I will listen to the scientists when it comes to getting a vaccine, not anyone else, maybe you should do the same. I know though you will only listen thought to Trump and Faux News. PITIFUL!!!!!

Who do you think it developing the vaccine? You libs actually think Trump is in a basement mixing arsenic and snake oil, boiling it in a big cauldron? You sounds really unintelligent with that “I’ll listen to the science line” it shows you aren’t really thinking your position in a rational way.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Well, the flip side is that is rather idiotic to lock yourself in you basement for months because of a virus that has a 97.4% survivabilty rate.

Of course, we have NO IDEA how many of the survivors have permanent damage to their bodies, after recovery.

But please go out there and get it, since you are so confident of full recovery.

 

[Craig234]

Well, the flip side is that is rather idiotic to lock yourself in you basement for months because of a virus that has a 97.4% survivabilty rate.

Idiotic straw man. Not going to a trump rally without a mask is not staying in a basement. And that rate is not for everyone, and those who it's for can spread it to others. It's not that hard how to reduce the NEXT 200,000 Americans to be killed. Idiotic not to.

 

[Yakshi]

Of course, we have NO IDEA how many of the survivors have permanent damage to their bodies, after recovery.

But please go out there and get it, since you are so confident of full recovery.

It is rare for a Trump supporter to address this concern. If I, for example, talk about a friend in his early fifties who got Covid back in March and who now has an irregular heartbeat that he didn't have before, as well as taste buds that still can't taste sweetness as well as they used to, that's not something that a Trump supporter wants to talk about, because why is my friend politicizing this pandemic by having disturbing residual health effects (that might be truly long term) anyway?

 

[AlphaOmega]

I am in my middles 70"s and am very, very careful about where I go. I mostly stay at home with the epidemic in full swing in my state and county. Then I see on the news all of these people, but especially the older ones, at Trump rallies without even wearing masks. Today it was in Florida and the covid is once again heating up in that state. I know younger people feel invulnerable, but older people are not. 79% of all deaths in the country are those over 65 and most of the older people I saw at the Trump rally in the audience were much older than 65. So can you tell me why they would risk their lives just to cheer anyone, even the person they want as the next president? I just do not understand. explain it to me please.

Not everyone lives in fear.

 

[Yakshi]

Not everyone lives in fear.

You live in complete fear. Who are you trying to kid?

 

[AlphaOmega]

You live in complete fear. Who are you trying to kid?

Facebook ignored.

 

[Questerr]

I am in my middles 70"s and am very, very careful about where I go. I mostly stay at home with the epidemic in full swing in my state and county. Then I see on the news all of these people, but especially the older ones, at Trump rallies without even wearing masks. Today it was in Florida and the covid is once again heating up in that state. I know younger people feel invulnerable, but older people are not. 79% of all deaths in the country are those over 65 and most of the older people I saw at the Trump rally in the audience were much older than 65. So can you tell me why they would risk their lives just to cheer anyone, even the person they want as the next president? I just do not understand. explain it to me please.

They believe Jeebus will protect them.

 

[Questerr]

If the Democrats hadn't been hampering his Presidency with a baseless Impeachment he could have been more "focused."

If his "science advisors" had been more "certain" in their knowledge and advice he might have had better "guidance."

If he hadn't initiated travel bans the death toll might have been even greater.

If State Governors like Cuomo hadn't ordered Nursing Homes to take in the ill, fewer people would have died.

If the WHO hadn't bought into Chinese misinformation about transmission more people would have been saved.

If wishes were fishes....

One can second guess, play armchair general, and lay all the blame one "wishes"... That does not mean your narrative is valid.

So what you are saying is that the Trump administration was so incompetent, they couldn't handle a pandemic and a congressional procedure simultaneously?

 

[Yakshi]

Facebook ignored.

Remember your advice the next time you complain from under your bed about communism or socialism or the Loch Ness monster.

Here's a hint with the Loch Ness monster. Stay away from Loch Ness.

 

[Kurmugeon]

They believe Jeebus will protect them.

Would you disrespectfully sneer at Muslim beliefs in this fashion? I not, why not?

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[Questerr]

Would you disrespectfully sneer at Muslim beliefs in this fashion? I not, why not?

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Yes. If someone willfully ignores common sense precautions in the time of a deadly pandemic because they think some supernatural sky-daddy is protecting them, they are idiots.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Remember your advice the next time you complain from under your bed about communism or socialism or the Loch Ness monster.

Here's a hint with the Loch Ness monster. Stay away from Loch Ness.

Facebook level ignored

 

[Yakshi]

Facebook level ignored

Just stay away from the water!

Save yourself all of the fear.

There are other emotions.

Anger, for example. Hatred of foreigners and minorities. Wild-eyed suspicion. Doubt. Feel free to explore the gamut.