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Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Very well said.Certainly. If 2016 is evidence of anything it's that the institutions we believed would protect us from any variety of disaster could topple at the drop of a hat. The solidity of the EU was toppled by an ad campaign and a single referendum vote, the NATO alliance was instantaneously weakened by a single comment by Trump, racist nationalist demagoguery became the mainstream in America in a single year, and with just one President's election the entire military linchpin of our Pacific strategy was thrown overboard with the election of the Philippine's President in June. So can the institutions that dial down the heat that could cause the next war be weakened? Absolutely. Institutions were created by people, they need to be maintained by people, and they can come completely undone by people.
Agreed. I don't see the world willing to go to war over NK. Maybe China, which could make it big, but I'm not so sure even of that. It would have to be truly extraordinary circumstances.Yes I can see it happening but not likely...... Iran, if they do something stupid and bomb Israel or sink a US warship in the Persian Gulf.
Russia if they invade the Baltic states or any NATO countries. The latter would be the greatest threat to world peace and start of WWIII.
North Korea doing something stupid might trigger a war but not a world war.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Agreed. I don't see the world willing to go to war over NK. Maybe China, which could make it big, but I'm not so sure even of that. It would have to be truly extraordinary circumstances.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
The thing is, before Trump had sat down with the Taiwanese President, China may have let it go without much of an issue. But with shaking up relations with China, if something in NK comes to a head (and it can because god damned in Un a flipping crazy ass megalomaniac), China may be more willing to run a bit of interference. I don't know how far China would go, but their government is aggressive as well. So who knows, but there seems to be a lot more potential now for a much larger outbreak of aggression than before.
Then again, Infinity War doesn't maintain itself.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
The point about the Taiwan incident screwing up any hope of China being a partner with regards to the North Korea situation is something I've said before. We'll find no help there in the coming years.
It's not to say that I trusted China to be some source of calm, logical reason on the matter. They've always been rather aggressive, particularly as it related to Taiwan and Tibet. They had traditionally ran interference on NK too, but as they emerged as a global market with lots to lose by conflicts with the West, they were likely more willing to "let it go" now. But they are certainly in "stir **** up" mode, particularly with those artificial islands and stuff, trying to expand their boarders and ignore international rulings on the international/disputed waters.
Trump's complete lack of diplomacy just isn't going to help the situation. And since China is already on the edge with a lot, it can be tipped over right easy. It is definitely a concern.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
Certainly. If 2016 is evidence of anything it's that the institutions we believed would protect us from any variety of disaster could topple at the drop of a hat. The solidity of the EU was toppled by an ad campaign and a single referendum vote, the NATO alliance was instantaneously weakened by a single comment by Trump, racist nationalist demagoguery became the mainstream in America in a single year, and with just one President's election the entire military linchpin of our Pacific strategy was thrown overboard with the election of the Philippine's President in June. So can the institutions that dial down the heat that could cause the next war be weakened? Absolutely. Institutions were created by people, they need to be maintained by people, and they can come completely undone by people.
2016 was a damn good year for authoritarian states.
It was an extraordinary year for ignorance and misinformation. In fact, I've never seen misinformation so efficiently kick truth's ass.
Can you envision another world war ever occurring?
If so, how do you think it would start? And maybe what kind?
I think it's possible. I do think that most countries would be reluctant to engage in a conflict of that size, primarily because they have a lot to lose, but I think it's still possible. I don't think it'd be WW2-like, with countries seeking domination. I think it'd be more WW1-like, where a series of smaller events ends up setting in motion a bunch of falling dominoes and triggers a larger conflict.
Potential scenario: US and China do a "face down" in the South China Sea. Some incident happens, a ship gets sunk. The other side feels the need to retaliate, and it just snowballs from there, dragging other surrounding countries in who now feel the need to protect their interests. This then invokes self-defense treaties, other countries reacting out of fear and/or self-protection, and so on.
Note: I an not saying the it will be us and China and/or over the South China Sea, just throwing that out as a possible type of example.
I am not sure about nuclear weapons, but if they are used I believe they would first be used by a country that is on the verge of losing as a last ditch desperation attempt.
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