Canada has no border except the US. How should Canada share the migration pressure from America's southern border?Canada uses a points system that I think makes sense. Here are the points for skilled worker entry. You need 67 points for entry.
Not sure how that's relevant. Immigrants come to Canada from most countries via airports.Canada has no border except the US.
If they apply to Canada from the US, and many do, they are evaluated on the points system.How should Canada share the migration pressure from America's southern border?
They are coming by the thousands in mass walking and in caravans. Totally different than in an airplane.Not sure how that's relevant. Immigrants come to Canada from most countries via airports.
If they apply to Canada from the US, and many do, they are evaluated on the points system.
And so...?They are not coming in mass walking or in caravans. Totally different than in an airplane.
Do we set up migrant camps? Should we escort them to the Canadian border? This is what is done now all the way from Honduras to America's southern border.And so...?
So this is not a serious discussion of immigration. Adiós.Do we set up migrant camps? Should we escort them to the Canadian border? This is what is done now all the way from Honduras to America's southern border.
It is about immigration and migration of populations. The OP. What did you think we were talking about?So this is not a serious discussion of immigration. Adiós.
Yes. Ultimately these countries need reform. I don't see that happening soon. Until then we need a policy to mitigate this problem otherwise we will have refugee camps on our border.Sort term, without boots on the ground, nothing will work. It takes a human to turn a human away.
Long term, the only way to stop illegal immigration into a country is to raise the standard of living in the country where the migrants are coming from, or lower the standard of living in the country where they are going.
The US does not have the population growth for sustained economic growth supporting our current lifestyle, either in labor or consumers. Anyone that wants to work, pay taxes and obey the law is okay with me.It is easy to say barbarians are at the gate but that is not useful for developing a realistic policy. I have my ideas and will contribute.
Yes. Ultimately these countries need reform. I don't see that happening soon. Until then we need a policy to mitigate this problem otherwise we will have refugee camps on our border.
We need a way to assimilate these people. And as a poke at "Allan" Canada should help.What policy do you think will work? None have yet.
Because they're brown?They are coming by the thousands in mass walking and in caravans. Totally different than in an airplane.
Because they are people and in need.Because they're brown?
All right nobody wants to talk about this. Migration of people will continue from the south to the north. There is no acceptable solution except assimilating them into our society in the best way possible. We are a big country. It will be beneficial.Because they are people and in need.
All right nobody wants to talk about this. Migration of people will continue from the south to the north. There is no acceptable solution except assimilating them into our society in the best way possible. We are a big country. It will be beneficial.Because they're brown?
Those are good. A very interesting system.Canada uses a points system that I think makes sense. Here are the points for skilled worker entry. You need 67 points for entry.
I'd start by making a distinction between long term policy, and short term policy. If we are myopic, and only address a crisis on the border, then it will continue to drain our resources forever and ever.It is easy to say barbarians are at the gate but that is not useful for developing a realistic policy. I have my ideas and will contribute.
Yes I agree but in the meantime we need a plan to resettle them into the US. There are not millions only thousands but we don't want refugee camps on our border.I'd start by making a distinction between long term policy, and short term policy. If we are myopic, and only address a crisis on the border, then it will continue to drain our resources forever and ever.
However, if we look at the impact of our policies in South and Central America over the past 150 years, and address those mistakes with consistent policy initiatives, then eventually the crisis at the border will become less than a trickle.
And/OR a plan to repatriate them safely and securely from whence they came. And each country of origin must be dealt with differently.Yes I agree but in the meantime we need a plan to resettle them into the US. There are not millions only thousands but we don't want refugee camps on our border.
That would be nice but the bureaucracy and expense required would be great. I was thinking more of families sponsored into communities. I think we have done something similar successfully.And/OR a plan to repatriate them safely and securely from whence they came. And each country of origin must be dealt with differently.
First we must divide them into broad categories, because solutions for them will be different. Let's start with 5 and see where that leaves us.
1). Migrant workers who seek to make a living, often in agriculture, and are happy to return home to their families seasonally.
2). Asylum seekers who are fleeing some sort of oppression in their home country, and their lives are at risk if they return.
3). People who wish to abandon their homeland and take up residence in the US permanently.
4). Students seeking an education in the US without committing to any ideas about where they will settle for life.
5). Technical workers who are in demand in the US who we make an offer they can't refuse.
How do we address each group?
I think that addresses numbers 1 & 2. You sound like you've put some study into this. How successfully are those immigrants usually assimilated into those communities, and into American culture overall?That would be nice but the bureaucracy and expense required would be great. I was thinking more of families sponsored into communities. I think we have done something similar successfully.