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Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?

Can the tea party be compared to Hitler?


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It is a little strange that some would be willing to dress up like and play SS. So Hitler, no. They're not nearly as good speakers or as politically savvy. :D
 

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It is a little strange that some would be willing to dress up like and play SS. So Hitler, no. They're not nearly as good speakers or as politically savvy. :D

And because I used to do civil war reenactments and played a confederate, I am somehow supporting slavery etc??? Even though historically my Texas Unit did have a black regiment???

Moronic.
 

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Absolutely moronic comparison.

Wait, you mean the current financial climate isn't an apt comparison to depression era Germany, where the Deutschmark was so devalued people had to go shopping with wheelbarrows full of money?
 

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It is a little strange that some would be willing to dress up like and play SS. So Hitler, no. They're not nearly as good speakers or as politically savvy. :D



Do you have any concept as to how many perished during Lenin's brief reign (??) It's Small compared to Stalin , but still a substantial effort. I mean , I'll assume you have that Avatar for a reason (??)
 

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Wait, you mean the current financial climate isn't an apt comparison to depression era Germany, where the Deutschmark was so devalued people had to go shopping with wheelbarrows full of money?

LOL, God I hope not. Besides we have credit cards! No need for cash!
 
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And because I used to do civil war reenactments and played a confederate, I am somehow supporting slavery etc??? Even though historically my Texas Unit did have a black regiment???

LOL then please tell me where they mention the massacre of Jews on their website. No, wait, they don't. Or tell me where they "reenact" the rounding up of Ukrainian Jews, forcing them to run a gauntlet through which they're beaten and then shot at the end and then have their bodies dumped in a bomb crater, as part of the Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in the murder of 1,000,000 people. Please, do tell me where they reenact that. It's history, right?!

Maybe next they'll start "reenacting" the mass extermination of civilians through death camps.

Give me a ****ing break.

These losers glorify the SS and whitewash over their crimes and mass murders.

Do you have any concept as to how many perished during Lenin's brief reign (??) It's Small compared to Stalin , but still a substantial effort. I mean , I'll assume you have that Avatar for a reason (??)

Open a thread if you want to whine about my views on Lenin. Maybe I'll actually respond.
 
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Do you have any concept as to how many perished during Lenin's brief reign (??) It's Small compared to Stalin , but still a substantial effort. I mean , I'll assume you have that Avatar for a reason (??)

How about you STFU and try to stay on topic?
 

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LOL then please tell me where they mention the massacre of Jews on their website. No, wait, they don't.

No they don't because Jews had nothing to do with the civil war and have nothing at all to do with the time period.

I guess you don't have time to read the disclaimer in bold letters on their site?

Disclaimer: This page or anyone involved in its creation, or members of reenactment groups listed here, are in no way affiliated with real, radical political organizations (i.e., KKK, Aryan Nation, American Nazi Party, etc.) and do not embrace the philosophies and actions of the original NSDAP (Nazi party), and wholeheartedly condemn the atrocities which made them infamous. May the victims of this unspeakable horror rest in peace. As we portray the German combat soldier, we are only interested in recreating his daily life, furthering our understanding of what it took to be a soldier, and at the same time having fun reliving history. We honor the men (and women) who really experienced the war, and we salute their courage and loyalty to put their lives on the line in defense of their native soil, no matter what nationality or government. - Willkommen! 5th SS Wiking German Reenactment Page

That's OK though, I understand political blindness. :roll:

Or tell me where they "reenact" the rounding up of Ukrainian Jews, forcing them to run a gauntlet through which they're beaten and then shot at the end and then have their bodies dumped in a bomb crater, as part of the Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in the murder of 1,000,000 people. Please, do tell me where they reenact that. It's history, right?!

You still have not answered my question. Hyperbole is not an argument.

Maybe next they'll start "reenacting" the mass extermination of civilians through death camps.

Give me a ****ing break.

You don't deserve a break, now answer my question...

Does my civil war reenactment make me a member of the KKK, White Nationalist Movement or support slavery?

These losers glorify the SS and whitewash over their crimes and mass murders.

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No they don't because Jews had nothing to do with the civil war and have nothing at all to do with the time period.

Uh, the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking massacred around 700 Ukrainian Jews as part of the Einsatzgruppe operation, among other war crimes. That's what I was referring to. If this is about history, then where is that information on their website? Care to try again on that one?

I guess you don't have time to read the disclaimer in bold letters on their site?

Disclaimer: This page or anyone involved in its creation, or members of reenactment groups listed here, are in no way affiliated with real, radical political organizations (i.e., KKK, Aryan Nation, American Nazi Party, etc.) and do not embrace the philosophies and actions of the original NSDAP (Nazi party), and wholeheartedly condemn the atrocities which made them infamous. May the victims of this unspeakable horror rest in peace. As we portray the German combat soldier, we are only interested in recreating his daily life, furthering our understanding of what it took to be a soldier, and at the same time having fun reliving history. We honor the men (and women) who really experienced the war, and we salute their courage and loyalty to put their lives on the line in defense of their native soil, no matter what nationality or government. - Willkommen! 5th SS Wiking German Reenactment Page

That's OK though, I understand political blindness.

The disclaimer has absolutely nothing to do with my point. I don't think they're Nazis or anti-semitic, and I've never said such. I said that they're glorifying a group of Nazi's by whitewashing over their crimes and portraying them as basically "national heroes". So you jumped the gun on this one by wrongly thinking I believe that he's an actual Nazi/anti-semite. Go back and read my posts before you respond next time. Christ.

You don't deserve a break, now answer my question...

Your question is irrelevant to my point. Respond to my actual argument instead of this wacky one you made up and attributed to me, if you're going to respond.

Moronic.
 
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Well sure, you can compare the tea party to Hitler. You can compare anything to anything else. It doesn't make the comparison accurate though.
 

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Uh, the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking massacred around 700 Ukrainian Jews as part of the Einsatzgruppe operation, among other war crimes. That's what I was referring to. If this is about history, then where is that information on their website? Care to try again on that one?

Ummmm, so what?

The disclaimer has absolutely nothing to do with my point. I don't think they're Nazis or anti-semitic, and I've never said such. I said that they're glorifying a group of Nazi's by whitewashing over their crimes and portraying them as basically "national heroes". So you jumped the gun on this one by wrongly thinking I believe that he's an actual Nazi/anti-semite. Go back and read my posts before you respond next time. Christ.

They are not whitewashing anything. It would be hard to have a WWII reenactment with no German troops. :roll:

Your question is irrelevant to my point. Respond to my actual argument instead of this wacky one you made up and attributed to me, if you're going to respond.

Moronic.

You started off buy saying....

It is a little strange that some would be willing to dress up like and play SS. So Hitler, no. They're not nearly as good speakers or as politically savvy.

So I asked my question.

You seem to think this it is some kind of issue and it is a non-issue.

Yes your opinion is silly at best. ;)
 
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They are not whitewashing anything.

Yes, they are.

It's completely ****ed up to call the SS Wiking soldiers that "gave their lives for their loved ones and a basic desire to be free" as if they're some kind of freedom fighters. They're ****ing NAZI's.

"To the end the men of the division fought like tigers. In defeat they retained their pride in having given service above and beyond the call of duty, and to this day the phenomenal espirit de corps engendered within this elite division lives on through a thriving veterans organisation. The Wiking Division was without a doubt the finest of all the SS volunteer formations, and indeed of of the best units in the entire German armed forces."1

Yes, nothing to see here, this is a completely accurate description of them. Completely forget that they were involved in the massacre of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of civilians. Nothing to see here, move on. :roll:
 
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How about You cease being an apologist for a Communist Bastard. OR provide the name of the person who forced him to use that Scummy Avatar.

Open a thread if you want to whine about my views on Lenin. Maybe I'll actually respond.
 

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How about You cease being an apologist for a Communist Bastard. OR provide the name of the person who forced him to use that Scummy Avatar.

Could you please only use capital letters on proper nouns, at the start of sentences or when using an acronym?
 

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Could you please only use capital letters on proper nouns, at the start of sentences or when using an acronym?

Could you please find an avi that includes both Mr. Potato and Bert?


TED,
Figures that if we're gonna tolerate derailing the thread, may as well ask for more Bert.
 

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It was an appropriate response to your "no they're not".

Moronic.

Members of the division's bakery column, led by Obersturmführer Braunnagel and Untersturmführer Kochalty, assisted Einsatzgruppe A in rounding up Ukrainian Jews. Witnesses report that the Jewish victims were forced to run a gauntlet formed by soldiers who would beat them as they passed, and when they reached the end of the gauntlet, Einsatzgruppen officers murdered them and their bodies were pushed into a bomb crater. The German 1st Mountain Division is also suspected of being implicated. Between 50 and 60 Jews were killed in this manner, as a part of the larger Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in over 700 murders.

In addition historian Eleonore Lappin from the Institute for the History of Jews in Austria has documented several cases of war crimes committed by members of the 5 SS Division Wiking in her work The Death Marches of Hungarian Jews Through Austria in the Spring of 1945.[9]

On March 28, 1945, eighty Jews from evacuation column, though fit for the journey, were shot by three members of the Waffen SS division Wiking and five military policemen. On April 4, twenty members of another column that left Graz tried to escape near Eggenfeld, not far from Gratkorn. Soldiers from the 5 SS Division Wiking that were temporarily stationed there apprehended them in the forest near Mt. Eggenfeld and then herded them in a gully, where they were shot. On April 7 and 11, 1945 members of the division executed another eighteen escaped prisoners.[9]

All of this was evil, but a reenactment group is not responsible. The majority of the solders who participated with the unit where not implicated or involved in war crimes. Why would they add that?

That would be like my unit talking on the web site about the blacks that served in the Union being put back or sold into slavery, and their white officers shot.

In the end it is still nothing more than a reenactment group. And your hyperbole is still just that.

This is too good to pass up...

wait, they don't. Or tell me where they "reenact" the rounding up of Ukrainian Jews, forcing them to run a gauntlet through which they're beaten and then shot at the end and then have their bodies dumped in a bomb crater, as part of the Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in the murder of 1,000,000 people.


That is a hell of an exaggeration! From 700 to 1,000,000!!!
 
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Just to clarify things further - I'll make a stretch here. Mr.KC is familiar with the Nazi's and their Eintzgruppen activities in Poland And Russia. This includes the Mega incident at Babi Yar. He also knows that one reason the Ukranians welcomed the Germans initially and were glad the Jews were being taken care of was in some instances the fact that many of the more reprehensible Commisars and worse in the Stalin era were Jewish including total vermin like Nikolay Yerzhov & Genrikh Yagoda.

He also KNOWS that Stalin's NKVD after Poland was invaded from the East by Stalin also participated in Murder especially the Katyn massacres. He also knows that in July 1944 Stalin waited until the "risen up" Polish Home Army in Warsaw was essentially destroyed by the Germans. He wanted the Non Communist Poles eliminated as much as possible.

He identifies himself as a Red (possibly saw Reds with warren Beatty too often (??) ) and knows some will be irritated by it. His memories are very selective.
 
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