Can the pro gun folks help us prevent mass shootings in any way?

[Maccabee]

OK, you get your body cryogenically frozen, and you can wake up when the kingdom of heaven has arrived.

Thanks?

 

[Lursa]

Can the pro gun folks help us prevent mass shootings in any way?

For example, mental health exams might've prevented both the Boulder super market shooting and the guy who killed all those Asian women. Both bought their guns shortly before they went on a rampage.

Longer waiting periods might've helped.

Is the pro gun crowd willing to do anything at all to reduce the problem?



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I've usually objected to waiting periods but yes, in both these cases there's a realistic chance that waiting days might have diffused their anger/issues.

I think the 3 day waiting period in some states seems reasonable, but that's just IMO...I cant see any significant way to determine success of waiting periods of any length...'testable' criteria.

 

[Rich2018]

Thanks?

Don't mention it.

 

[jonny5]

And in the United States, are there any statistics or studies that calculate how many cases where Amricans have protected themselves, their family, their home with firearms from criminals?
After all, in my opinion, this is the main argument of the supporters of weapons?

Defensive Gun Uses in the U.S. | The Heritage Foundation

Yes, but the main argument is a few. One, its our right to bear arms, both legally and inherent. Two, people need to be able to not only defend themselves from criminals, but their own govt and foreign enemies. Three, there are many non human killing uses for weapons.

 

[Rich2018]

Yes, but the main argument is a few. One, its our right to bear arms, both legally and inherent. Two, people need to be able to not only defend themselves from criminals, but their own govt and foreign enemies. Three, there are many non human killing uses for weapons.

1. There is no "inherent" right to bear arms

2. How do you account for the fact that most American households don't have guns ?

3. Privately owned guns are of zero use against the government or foreign invasion - you're just lying to yourself.

 

[TurtleDude]

Easy you say
Strange how it's not been done huh ?
What about the guns owned by non-felons which are used to harm others ?

The recent shootings in Atlanta and Boulder were not done by felons were they ?





Good, because it's not
The purpose of gun control is not to reduce crime (though it will probably reduce it a little), it is to reduce shootings in general, and mass shootings in particular.

mas shootings are rare and in california, accounted for about 4.5 lives a year for the last three decades. Hardly a massive issue worthy of causing a civil war. When you say shootings, you are ADMITTING your goal is to prevent the lawful use of firearms, and you also admit you won't really do much about crime.

 

[TurtleDude]

1. There is no "inherent" right to bear arms

2. How do you account for the fact that most American households don't have guns ?

3. Privately owned guns are of zero use against the government or foreign invasion - you're just lying to yourself.

we cannot help the fact that you reject the entire foundation of the constitution of the country you chose to move to.

Most households don't have blacks, gays, lesbians, latinos : does that mean their rights are second class? Privately owned guns would be very good for asymmetrical warfare

 

[Rich2018]

mas shootings are rare and in california, accounted for about 4.5 lives a year for the last three decades. Hardly a massive issue worthy of causing a civil war. When you say shootings, you are ADMITTING your goal is to prevent the lawful use of firearms, and you also admit you won't really do much about crime.

What evidence do you have, other that hot air from the likes of Alex Jones, that a gun ban would cause a civil war ?

 

[Rich2018]

we cannot help the fact that you reject the entire foundation of the constitution of the country you chose to move to.

I said no inherent right to bear arms (do you know what that means)
There is instead, a constitutional right to

Most households don't have blacks, gays, lesbians, latinos : does that mean their rights are second class?

Neither the households with or without

Privately owned guns would be very good for asymmetrical warfare

Only in gun lovers' wet dreams.