Can the left and right even converse at this point?

[Kerry Won Ohio]

your opinion means nothing to me. Your silly bullshit about calling Republicans traitors is just that -silly bullshit.

Then why do they support someone yelling voter fraud with no evidence? Then why do they support someone yelling the election was stolen with no evidence?

If Repugs support a liar like Trump who is trying to steal an election then they are indeed traitors.

 

[TurtleDude]

Then why do they support someone yelling voter fraud with no evidence? Then why do they support someone yelling the election was stolen with no evidence?

If Repugs support a liar like Trump who is trying to steal an election then they are indeed traitors.

I don't know what all the evidence is-I don' have the time to investigate every state where there are claims. That is what the courts are available for. You keep saying he is trying to steal an election-that is a bald faced lie. And It is obvious to me that if Trump were to prove his claims, you'd probably go ballistic. Your hatred for anyone who doesn't buy into your creeping crud of collectivist socialism is pernicious

 

[Individual]

What conversation should the Left and the Right be having?

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I don't know what all the evidence is-I don' have the time to investigate every state where there are claims. That is what the courts are available for. You keep saying he is trying to steal an election-that is a bald faced lie. And It is obvious to me that if Trump were to prove his claims, you'd probably go ballistic. Your hatred for anyone who doesn't buy into your creeping crud of collectivist socialism is pernicious

Trump has absolutely NOTHING. Everyone knows it. He hasn't presented one ****ing piece of evidence in court regarding voter fraud. He is lying through his teeth.

You're just making bullshit excuses for him.

 

[TurtleDude]

Trump has absolutely NOTHING. Everyone knows it. He hasn't presented one ****ing piece of evidence in court regarding voter fraud. He is lying through his teeth.

You're just making bullshit excuses for him.

Given your posts' stage IV partisan hackery , pardon me if I don't take your word concerning Trump. In fact I don't find anything you say to be either truthful or reasonable

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Given your posts' stage IV partisan hackery , pardon me if I don't take your word concerning Trump. In fact I don't find anything you say to be either truthful or reasonable

Yeah, I know.....you have absolutely no idea if Trump has presented any voter fraud evidence in court. What a total ****ing lie.

It ain't partisan hackery. Partisanship implies that Repugs have a legitimate place in American society. Repugs are no longer Americans, since they support Trump's overthrow of the government after an election he lost. **** those traitors.

 

[TurtleDude]

Yeah, I know.....you have absolutely no idea if Trump has presented any voter fraud evidence in court. What a total ****ing lie.

It ain't partisan hackery. Partisanship implies that Repugs have a legitimate place in American society. Repugs are no longer Americans, since they support Trump's overthrow of the government after an election he lost. **** those traitors.

Good thinking there dude, lets get rid of 70 million Americans. Many of you dems would starve to death and the crime would be rampant since most of the cops are not Democrats. Your hatred is really bizarre, what exactly causes this level of insane hatred.

 

[Fiddytree]

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Good thinking there dude, lets get rid of 70 million Americans. Many of you dems would starve to death and the crime would be rampant since most of the cops are not Democrats. Your hatred is really bizarre, what exactly causes this level of insane hatred.

I hate traitors. Repugs are traitors. **** Trump and all of the Repug Nazis that support his overthrow of the government.

 

[TurtleDude]

I hate traitors. Repugs are traitors. **** Trump and all of the Repug Nazis that support his overthrow of the government.

yawn, your silly posts and their overheated psychobabbling hysterics are getting old. I figured you'd godwin this thread sooner or later. You just tell lie after lie after lie

 

[Fledermaus]

Nope. The bolded part was the relevant part.

Biden supporters would NEVER support Biden lying about election fraud. But MOST Trump supporters still support Trump, despite his election fraud lies.

That's the difference. The only difference that matters.

Why do you support the people you call traitors?

 

[Fledermaus]

I hate traitors. Repugs are traitors. **** Trump and all of the Repug Nazis that support his overthrow of the government.

Hyperbolic ranting.

This is a great example why both sides can't meet in the middle... Baseless accusation and libel.

 

[Fledermaus]

Your response below does not answer my question --

YOU made an accusation: Why are you supporting someone who claims the election was stolen from him, with no evidence?

You did not ask if I supported Trump. You accused me of supporting Trump.

Support or retract.

I asked why you still support Trump. I didn't ask if you agreed with him about election fraud.

You did not ask if I supported Trump. You accused me of supporting Trump.

Support or retract.

 

[apdst]

He never ever asks lefties to prove all the outrageous claims they make

Because he knows they can't.

 

[apdst]

I hate traitors. Repugs are traitors. **** Trump and all of the Repug Nazis that support his overthrow of the government.

I love how y'all got all patriotic, all of a sudden...lol. And you wonder why nobody likes Leftists.

 

[apdst]

Nope. The bolded part was the relevant part.

Biden supporters would NEVER support Biden lying about election fraud. But MOST Trump supporters still support Trump, despite his election fraud lies.

That's the difference. The only difference that matters.

Y'all supported the Russia collusion hoax for the past four years...lol

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Y'all supported the Russia collusion hoax for the past four years...lol

There is evidence of Russia collusion -- the Mueller Report. Hence, why we believe it.

On the other hand, Trump has NO evidence of voter fraud. He is a traitor trying to overthrow our government, and all of his Nazi supporters are also traitors.

 

[apdst]

There is evidence of Russia collusion -- the Mueller Report. Hence, why we believe it.

On the other hand, Trump has NO evidence of voter fraud. He is a traitor trying to overthrow our government, and so are all of his Nazi supporters.

The Mueller report stated there was no evidence of collusion.

It's funny watching you call us all nazis. It proves you don't have shit else to say.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

YOU made an accusation: Why are you supporting someone who claims the election was stolen from him, with no evidence?

You did not ask if I supported Trump. You accused me of supporting Trump.

Support or retract.



You did not ask if I supported Trump. You accused me of supporting Trump.

Support or retract.

Am I wrong in my accusation? Do you support Trump? Do you support what he is doing right now?

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

The Mueller report stated there was no evidence of collusion.

It's funny watching you call us all nazis. It proves you don't have shit else to say.

You can't charge someone with collusion. Whatever term you want to use, such as "cooperating with Russians", Trump and his traitor family and staff were doing it. The Mueller Report makes that clear.

 

[apdst]

You can't charge someone with collusion. Whatever term you want to use, such as "cooperating with Russians", Trump and his traitor family and staff were doing it. The Mueller Report makes that clear.

The Mueller Report said: "There is no evidence of any American citizen illegally coordinating with the Russian government"

 

[cabse5]

Mussolinii was a conservtiove,
Wiki/fascism

Donald Trump is very authoritarian.

Progressives are not authoritarian.

The traditional and absolutist definition of authoritarianism and fascism includes lefties and well as righties. For crying out loud, the father of fascism, Mussolini, was absolutely considered a lefty until a progressive's prospective placed Mussolini as a righty.

Mussolini and Trump are righties from a progressive's prospective since there isn't much political ideology to the left of progressivism. Which is, in turn, taught in public schools and becomes the indoctrination of the public school student by the left and which leads to the advent of the age of misinformation.
For example, if one were to ask GOPers if Trump was a lefty or righty you'd probably have as many responses of lefty as righty.

Since progressives are all authoritarian or at least, progressives falsely claim ('cause Trump isn't authoritarian) that one must be authoritarian to be fascist, the claim by progressives of all fascists (or authoritarians) being righties is an authoritarian move because the rewritten definition of authoritarianism and fascism is succinctly placing 'blame' on those who disagree with authoritarians - with progressives.

Sidenote: Is the rewritten and from a progressive's prospective definition of authoritarianism and fascism wrong since not all fascists and authoritarians are righties? Is the rewritten and from a progressive's prospective definition of authoritarianism and fascism wrong since not all authoritarians are fascist (according to progressives, Trump is fascist while there is no proof Trump is authoritarian, IMO)?...Rather, there is no proof of Trump being authoritarian 'cept for authoritarian claims, IMO.

 

[Alizia Tyler]

On the other hand, Trump has NO evidence of voter fraud. He is a traitor trying to overthrow our government, and all of his Nazi supporters are also traitors.

This is, if you take a few steps back from it, an astounding sort of declaration. Kerry Won Ohio, it would seem, really & honestly believes this. I assume that no information, no alternative perspective, no discourse, no conversation and no ideas would be capable of influencing such an adamant and settled declaration.

But what is it that produces the person who is comfortable dealing in such radical binaries? How has this come about in this culture? To what degree is the 'education system' responsible for this? Who is 'responsible' for it is perhaps the better question.

Is this a suitable and an acceptable way of looking at the world, or the culture, or other people? Is this where things are going? And what would happen if such a person, and such people, were to gain some level of political power?

 

[cabse5]

This is, if you take a few steps back from it, an astounding sort of declaration. Kerry Won Ohio, it would seem, really & honestly believes this. I assume that no information, no alternative perspective, no discourse, no conversation and no ideas would be capable of influencing such an adamant and settled declaration.

But what is it that produces the person who is comfortable dealing in such radical binaries? How has this come about in this culture? To what degree is the 'education system' responsible for this? Who is 'responsible' for it is perhaps the better question.

Is this a suitable and an acceptable way of looking at the world, or the culture, or other people? Is this where things are going? And what would happen if such a person, and such people, were to gain some level of political power?

It's as if the preponderance of circumstancial evidence isn't a factor in either the commencement of an investigation or in determining guilt or innocence in a court of law.

Side note: I guess, the investigations into the Trump campaign over its complicity with Russia in influencing the 2016 election were illegitimate since there wasn't any evidence to start an investigation.
Same goes with the illegitimacy of the impeachment of Trump over the Zelensky phone call since no facts were presented before the investigation ensued.

I guess, courts will have to disregard any previous or further convictions or findings of innocence based on a preponderance of circumstancial evidence.
The precedent has been set by the courts in Pennsylvania, for example!

 

[Fledermaus]

Am I wrong in my accusation? Do you support Trump? Do you support what he is doing right now?

Asked and answered...

Your turn.

Show me ANY post where I have supported him in what he is doing now.

Support or retract.