Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

[Dooble]

"If the fast food workers achieve tangible results, it could transform low-wage fast food and retail in the same way that the United Auto Workers (UAW) and other unions helped to transform manufacturing during the 1930s. Their efforts, combined with the stimulative impact of World War II, helped birth a new American middle class and an organized labor Golden Age."

So can they? In light of what happened to Detroit, do we even want a revival of labor unions?

Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

 

[CalGun]

It could happen. The reason so is simple. Liberal socialist like obama know their policies will end up creating cities like detroit. They know eventually the people will turn on them and they'll be out on their duffs. Oloser himself is going to need golf money and the rest of they party faithfull will need their cut! Where better to get it then the poor people they benefited with higher wages and "union dues." A nifty hand out to the party faithful from those they helped the most. Its called trickle up theor in retort to Reagan's trickle down theory only the trickle is from the poor into the rich elite leftists pockets.

 

[rabbitcaebannog]

"If the fast food workers achieve tangible results, it could transform low-wage fast food and retail in the same way that the United Auto Workers (UAW) and other unions helped to transform manufacturing during the 1930s. Their efforts, combined with the stimulative impact of World War II, helped birth a new American middle class and an organized labor Golden Age."

So can they? In light of what happened to Detroit, do we even want a revival of labor unions?

Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

On the first question, I don't think it can revive labor unions even though it would be a good thing for workers. Too much influence in one direction passing laws to make things on an uneven playing field for unions (like right to work laws).

The second question is harder to answer because if we have a neoliberal state, you cannot have unions exist or at least ones that don't interfere with its current implementation which is profits over people.

 

[tessaesque]

If the new golden age is to be based upon fast food jobs I'd be incredibly surprised.

 

[calamity]

It could happen. The reason so is simple. Liberal socialist like obama know their policies will end up creating cities like detroit. They know eventually the people will turn on them and they'll be out on their duffs. Oloser himself is going to need golf money and the rest of they party faithfull will need their cut! Where better to get it then the poor people they benefited with higher wages and "union dues." A nifty hand out to the party faithful from those they helped the most. Its called trickle up theor in retort to Reagan's trickle down theory only the trickle is from the poor into the rich elite leftists pockets.

This must be a living breathing example of brainwashing in action. Do you have any original thoughts, or can you only parrot slogans heard on Fox and Rush?

 

[MaggieD]

If the new golden age is to be based upon fast food jobs I'd be incredibly surprised.

That's pretty funny!!

 

[ttwtt78640]

"If the fast food workers achieve tangible results, it could transform low-wage fast food and retail in the same way that the United Auto Workers (UAW) and other unions helped to transform manufacturing during the 1930s. Their efforts, combined with the stimulative impact of World War II, helped birth a new American middle class and an organized labor Golden Age."

So can they? In light of what happened to Detroit, do we even want a revival of labor unions?

Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

What is vastly different today than it was in the 1930s to 1950s is global competition. You note what made the unions (and wages) rise, yet ignore what made the unions (and wages) fall. Simply because a little of something is good does not mean that a lot of it is better. Fewer auto workers getting higher pay is not really the greater good that the McStrikers envision, yet will be the likely result if they "succeed" in getting their demands met. Think before you drink, even Koolaid.

 

[GottaGo]

If the new golden age is to be based upon fast food jobs I'd be incredibly surprised.

And horrified....

 

[Artevelde]

"If the fast food workers achieve tangible results, it could transform low-wage fast food and retail in the same way that the United Auto Workers (UAW) and other unions helped to transform manufacturing during the 1930s. Their efforts, combined with the stimulative impact of World War II, helped birth a new American middle class and an organized labor Golden Age."

So can they? In light of what happened to Detroit, do we even want a revival of labor unions?

Can the fast food strikes revive American labor unions?

I very much doubt it.

 

[Dooble]

Can we get a poll up here? I hit the wrong $#@!^&* key again.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

If fast food joints became unionized they would quickly go out of business. People are willing to pay a cheap price for crap food but would be unwilling to pay good money for bad food so IMO it would end up giving unions the black eye they so richly deserve if they got their greedy fingers into the secret sauce.

 

[ttwtt78640]

If the new golden age is to be based upon fast food jobs I'd be incredibly surprised.

The new golden age is to be based on income redistrubution - the fundamental transformation of America tha Obama envisions. Legions of gov't dependent voters pressing for ever more "social justice" in the form of income redistribution. The problem is that for a parasite to be truely successful then it must be content to do minimal damage to its host.

 

[VanceMack]

Next thing you know they will be clamoring for an associates degree in fast food. And of course...government provided student loans.

 

[cpgrad08]

Next thing you know they will be clamoring for an associates degree in fast food. And of course...government provided student loans.

Why stop there, why not a Masters in Theoretical Burger flipping.

 

[VanceMack]

Why stop there, why not a Masters in Theoretical Burger flipping.

The sad thing is...there are people that would take these ridiculous notions seriously.

 

[Helix]

they did it in the wrong order with the wrong goal. step one should have been unionizing. step two should have been negotiating for more control over schedules and better opportunities for upward mobility, not $15 an hour base pay.

what really sucks about those jobs is that they are dead end with high turnover and little control over hours. this is also a problem in retail. if i were running the union, that's what i'd negotiate for. the base pay is always going to be low; what's important is the ability to move up, as well as frequency of raises.

 

[cpgrad08]

The sad thing is...there are people that would take these ridiculous notions seriously.

True, If these people got living wages and unionize, do they know that most likely there union dues would must likely negate there living wages.

 

[CalGun]

Wow talk about not having an original thought - I swear all socialist leftist are a like - attack attack attack - no information whatsoever to provide. Worthless dribble.

This must be a living breathing example of brainwashing in action. Do you have any original thoughts, or can you only parrot slogans heard on Fox and Rush?

 

[cpgrad08]

they did it in the wrong order with the wrong goal. step one should have been unionizing. step two should have been negotiating for more control over schedules and better opportunities for upward mobility, not $15 an hour base pay.

what really sucks about those jobs is that they are dead end with high turnover and little control over hours. this is also a problem in retail. if i were running the union, that's what i'd negotiate for. the base pay is always going to be low; what's important is the ability to move up, as well as frequency of raises.

Or they can just realizes that unskilled labor is always going to low paying jobs, since that is what they are design to be in the first place.

 

[Gipper]

Since fast food makes most unionized jobs look like rocket science, I'd say no.

 

[CalGun]

You know I don't do fast food much. If I have a long drive I might hit a place for their dollar menu and pick up a burger or chicken sandwich but it doesn't happen much. I look forward to doing this more in the future when it cost twice as much and I can order on an iPad at the front counter instead of some greedy little twerp that expects to fund his nike collection with $15hr.

 

[VanceMack]

they did it in the wrong order with the wrong goal. step one should have been unionizing. step two should have been negotiating for more control over schedules and better opportunities for upward mobility, not $15 an hour base pay.

what really sucks about those jobs is that they are dead end with high turnover and little control over hours. this is also a problem in retail. if i were running the union, that's what i'd negotiate for. the base pay is always going to be low; what's important is the ability to move up, as well as frequency of raises.

Dood...you are talking about FAST FOOD JOBS.

I swear to god...people talking about unionizing fast food jobs, living wages, career progression...WTF is wrong with people?

 

[VanceMack]

True, If these people got living wages and unionize, do they know that most likely there union dues would must likely negate there living wages.

Or the cost of all goods would increase, and heres the truly diabolical part...in 7 years, there ass has managed to work themselves up to salad prep. Woo hoo!

 

[Helix]

Or they can just realizes that unskilled labor is always going to low paying jobs, since that is what they are design to be in the first place.

it's entirely reasonable in a first world country to expect some control over hours worked and opportunities for promotion / raises. asking for $15 an hour base pay was stupid, but what i'm suggesting is not out of bounds.

 

[cpgrad08]

Or the cost of all goods would increase, and heres the truly diabolical part...in 7 years, there ass has managed to work themselves up to salad prep. Woo hoo!

or their increase wage would disquilifed them from Government programs which they depend on.