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Can someone explain what conservatives mean when they say “Woke”?

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Can someone explain what conservatives mean when they say “Woke”?​

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Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and other prominent right wingers cheer on big corporations failing because they “went woke and got broke”. I still can’t get a straight answer from a conservative as to what Woke means to them. I had a conservative call the show Archive 81 woke because it had a black main character in it. A Nike commercial they called woke because it had a gay couple in it for half a second.
Is “woke” just anything that features non white, non straight males?

*question taken from r/askaconservative.
 
I can't get a straight statement from the Dems, repeatedly, what is meant by "woke", in defense nor advancement of what it means rather than get hung up on the term itself.
 
There is no ONE SINGLE "woke" component or single rule of thumb. because like anything else it's about people, who come in all forms.
But at its best connotation, let's maybe go with "enlightenment".
If a person is mindful, generous, conscientious and accountable, that contributes a fair bit of what can be termed enlightened, or "woke", because they are awakened
to the needs of others, the needs of society and the needs of the Earth. And they want their ethics to be squared up and of service to good.

And believe it or not, at best, a lot of this can and should be viewed as conservative values as much as liberal.
I don't make any attempt to defend the worst connotations of it simply because I choose not to give the negative aspects of any of it the airtime it wants.
I simply believe that critical thinking (the opposite of knee-jerk reactionary thinking) allows us to separate the bad from the good.
If Musk, Rogan, Hannity and Carlson wish to be knee-jerk reactionaries, let them have at it, just so long as Americans recognize that for what it is.

I was originally under the impression that Tesla wanted to project enlightened values for an enlightened market.
I did not realize that Tesla wanted to be the hallmark of anarcho-vulture capitalism and knee-jerk reactionary thinking, and I didn't realize that Musk wanted the ideal
Tesla owner image to be that of an entitled prick.
A lot of cynics and pundits used to hang that on BMW owners in the old days, remember?

Perhaps this is an ideal time for Tesla to invent a new hood ornament for their cars.

A pair of lightning bolts! ;)
 
"Western countries were using the term woke, often in an ironic way, as an insult for various progressive or leftist movements and ideologies perceived as overzealous, performative, or insincere."

Wikipedia has a pretty good handle on the term. It is rather funny that you don't know though.
Or, if as suspected, playing dumb to try and what?

Woke, in layman's terms, are the people willing to show support of something with little to no proof that the something is a real problem. It also has the connotation that those people will show support while DOING little to nothing to actually get it changed.
 
Like everything, they are being whiny, factless trolls because they have no fact, logic or reasoning to support their shitty beliefs

Mr Person said:
Like socialism and "commies", it means "thing Fox told me to not like" and no more.
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And this.

Basically they are all just parrots spreading around the same moronic talking points. They are unoriginal, pretty much every one does the same stupid pattern of posting a complete lie, claiming its truth, not backing it up, citing some blog or other garbage site, deflect, project, play victim, repeat. All to avoid the obvious, they have no facts, they have no argument.

I think its a stupid term anyway.REgardless, to sum it up, I would say "woke" means not being a racist, sexist, bigoted assholes. Its having empathy for people not like you. So no wonder why the right hates it, they can't fathom the concept of empathy since they don't have any
 
Spunkylama said:

Can someone explain what conservatives mean when they say “Woke”?​

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Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and other prominent right wingers cheer on big corporations failing because they “went woke and got broke”. I still can’t get a straight answer from a conservative as to what Woke means to them. I had a conservative call the show Archive 81 woke because it had a black main character in it. A Nike commercial they called woke because it had a gay couple in it for half a second.
Is “woke” just anything that features non white, non straight males?

*question taken from r/askaconservative.
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Liberals, anti-racists, non-homophobes, non-Christians....the usual. Just another repackaging of the same things.
 
Lloyd Christmas said:
Like everything, they are being whiny, factless trolls because they have no fact, logic or reasoning to support their shitty beliefs



And this.

Basically they are all just parrots spreading around the same moronic talking points. They are unoriginal, pretty much every one does the same stupid pattern of posting a complete lie, claiming its truth, not backing it up, citing some blog or other garbage site, deflect, project, play victim, repeat. All to avoid the obvious, they have no facts, they have no argument.

I think its a stupid term anyway.REgardless, to sum it up, I would say "woke" means not being a racist, sexist, bigoted assholes. Its having empathy for people not like you. So no wonder why the right hates it, they can't fathom the concept of empathy since they don't have any
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Hmm… does that mean that folks on the left prior to becoming “woke” were racist, sexist and bigoted assholes?
 
bluesmoke said:
I can't get a straight statement from the Dems, repeatedly, what is meant by "woke", in defense nor advancement of what it means rather than get hung up on the term itself.
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Why not just go with the dictionary definition?

": aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)"

Racial and social justice?!?

No WONDER conservatives want to redefine it and make fun of it. Conservatives can't support racial and social justice. That would drive away all the hateful xenophobic Republican voters who hate Blacks, Gays, Muslims, Immigrants, Hispanics, Transgender people, and Jews.

Without the hatred vote, Republicans would not be winning very many elections.
 
Lloyd Christmas said:
Oh look, right on cue, another moronic deflection and factless, no argument post
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OK, I’ll take that as an admission that “woke” is simply the latest (newest?) virtue signaling label - rather than signifying any specific change in policy or attitude.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, I’ll take that as an admission that “woke” is simply the latest (newest?) virtue signaling label - rather than signifying any specific change in policy or attitude.
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I take it then that you didn't bother to read your own link?
 
Spunkylama said:

Can someone explain what conservatives mean when they say “Woke”?​

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Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and other prominent right wingers cheer on big corporations failing because they “went woke and got broke”. I still can’t get a straight answer from a conservative as to what Woke means to them. I had a conservative call the show Archive 81 woke because it had a black main character in it. A Nike commercial they called woke because it had a gay couple in it for half a second.
Is “woke” just anything that features non white, non straight males?

*question taken from r/askaconservative.
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In simplest terms, it means anything related to Black supremacy.

It's worth noting that Woke excludes Hispanics which is why it has opposition from that direction.
 
Master Debator said:
I take it then that you didn't bother to read your own link?
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I certainly did, but there is no difference between being “woke” and being a “social justice warrior”, a term which predated “woke”.

The word woke loosely refers to a social media-fueled, leftwing political ideology that emerged in the English-speaking world in the early 2010s. The term is derived from the state of being awake to or conscious of structural inequalities in society and being hyper-aware of one’s own role in those inequalities. Someone who is woke is constantly inspecting every institution in society, looking for the presence of racism, sexism, and other forms of pervasive prejudice.

What separates someone who is woke from someone who is merely progressive is not only this vigilance and awareness but a fervent belief that everyone must be enlisted into their social causes at all times and that the end justifies the means when battling injustice.
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Woke is many things. Like teaching that the USA was founded on racism, and is inherently an evil player in the world.
Teaching revisionist history is right out of the Marxist play book.
Start with tearing down statues of Confederates, because they were all bad guys and progress to statues of Thomas Jefferson and Abe Lincoln.
Teaching 7 year old kids all about gender fluidity. That's woke.
Teachers whose goal is to turn out little commies instead of Americans.
That's woke.
In the immortal words of Donald Trump, "Everything woke turns to shit".
He was like a modern day Nostradamus, wasn't he?
 
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