Grateful Heart
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I think the answer to this is fairly simple. If you believe the governance and management of the state of California over the past few decades should serve as a model for financial sanity, then by all means, legalize and tax marijuana.
On the other hand, if you wonder why the state with the most natural resources, best ports for trade, best climate, best universities, and some of the most dynamic cities in the nation can't seem to pay its bills...
...then a hare-brained plan to tax marijuana might give you just a little moment of pause.
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California is currently facing a water shortage, farmers are shutting down acreage, so much for climate.
CA Progress ReportGovernor Arnold Schwarzenegger praised Senator Dave Cogdill’s (R-Fresno) introduction of SB 371, the Safe, Clean, Reliable Drinking Water Supply Act of 2009, another thinly disguised attempt to build a peripheral canal and more dams....
However, a coalition of recreational and commercial fishing groups, environmental organizations, Indian Tribes and others are opposing any proposal that includes a peripheral canal and more dams. The purpose of the canal and more dams is to create the infrastructure to export more water to corporate agribusiness on the west side of the San Joaquin Valley at a time when Central Valley Chinook salmon, delta smelt, longfin smelt, green sturgeon and other fish populations are in collapse, due to massive water exports out of the California Delta and declining water quality in recent years.
Interesting. If they fully legalize marijuana (not happening), don't you think it would force the Obama administration to rethink its position on those pot raids for political survivability?
So you want to turn little children into potheads?Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?
Damn it. Happiness. Heart attack. California. Damn. It.
So you want to turn little children into potheads?
1. legalize marijuana
2. smoke it a lot everyday
3. get stupid, lazy
Look, granted my statment was hyperbole, however the point stands, this is not a way out of the recession for California.
And those who smoke weed to excess are no better than an alcholic. there lives revolve around a substance, often becoming the main focus of whatever activity they are doing.
How many really well off people smoke this much weed?
So you want to turn little children into potheads?
Are you fine with turning little children into alcoholics?
People are going to smoke weed after you ban it and after it is unbanned, the best you can do is teach your children about the problems and hope for the best.
Marijuana as a child is always easier obtainable than alcohol.
Little children already are potheads. Why? because it is so readily available. There is ZERO control over the distribution of pot, and with a black market distribution it is readily available to any child who so desires to get it.
When I was in school it was effortless to attain pot, and for that matter LSD, cocaine, and with a bit of asking around just about any substance you cared to partake of - with the exception of 2, alcohol, and to a lesser extent tobacco. These actually took a bit of effort to attain, and especially for alcohol it more often than not came up empty handed. All good, pot was always a phone call away on the weekend, or if it was a weekday I could just pick it up at school. That has not changed one bit. As long as unscrupulous individuals control the distribution there is absolutely ZERO control over whether or not our children can get their hands on it.
Legalizing pot would make it MUCH more difficult for a child to attain.
I could buy weed in middle school.
The only thing I could never find was hash but every other drug I could of possibly wanted was readily available for my consumption if I wanted it.
See my post above.
Some often say there's little or no difference between pot-smoking and alcohol-drinking. I think your example here demonstrates how these activities are VERY different.
Alcohol is worse in my opinion. It has a higher addiction rate than weed I think.
I live in a **** dirt town at the moment and all the teens here go sit in parking lots and get drunk.
It is obvious prohibition has never worked but try telling the resident christian coalition that lives here.
What does California's past have to do with whether or not legalizing marijuana is a good idea or a "hair brained" idea.Grateful Heart said:I think the answer to this is fairly simple. If you believe the governance and management of the state of California over the past few decades should serve as a model for financial sanity, then by all means, legalize and tax marijuana.
On the other hand, if you wonder why the state with the most natural resources, best ports for trade, best climate, best universities, and some of the most dynamic cities in the nation can't seem to pay its bills...
...then a hare-brained plan to tax marijuana might give you just a little moment of pause.
You know, this series of posts did cause me to think back to my own high school years during the 70s. It occurs to me that very few kids (that I knew of) ever drank alcohol during school hours. On the other hand, quite a few smoked pot during school hours. Of course in those days, we had a smoking lounge on school grounds, so it was a bit easier for those smoking weed to fit in, perhaps.
But all the same... I think there really is a difference between pot-smokers and alcohol drinkers... even at this young age. Kids would often go out partying and get roaring drunk on weekends. But not in school. Drugs are different. They're even sold in school. Still are. Big time in some areas.
The difference is the kids know it is unrealistic to even attempt to conceal alcohol at school, what is the likelihood of being able to conceal a bottle of vodka in your underwear?? Never mind how hard it is to conceal the effects and smell of alcohol on your breath. Even the most stupid of kids realize that having alcohol or being buzzed by it at school was just begging to get caught.
Also alcohol is a social drug, even kids are aware being drunk at school is just not fun at all, it is for letting loose and tossing your inhibitions to the wind, something appropriate for a party, but not at all for school.
See my post above.
Some often say there's little or no difference between pot-smoking and alcohol-drinking. I think your example here demonstrates how these activities are VERY different.
Do you drink at work? If you don't then your opinion, position and whatever argument you tried to make is automatically destroyed.
A few bullet points of my own first.
legalizing would
* drastically reduce the availability to our children, ideally until they are old enough to make mature decisions (I was addicted to cocaine at 17, fortunately it only lasted a few months until I wised up to the situation)
Also alcohol is a social drug, even kids are aware being drunk at school is just not fun at all, it is for letting loose and tossing your inhibitions to the wind, something appropriate for a party, but not at all for school.
Well, as I mentioned, we had a lot of kids who seemed to enjoy being high in school. As I recall, the 'stoners' in my school weren't at the top of the class. Most of them weren't even in the middle of the class. They generally showed up ill-prepared, and were lucky to get passing grades, if they weren't in some sort of trouble or flunking out altogether.
(Now's when the straight "A" stoners all stand up to swear smoking pot had no effect on grades in school.)
Who is talking about legalizing marijuana for those under the legal age of adulthood?
If you legalize marijuana the ONLY possible outcome is that it will be more readily available to those under the legal age.
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If you legalize marijuana the ONLY possible outcome is that it will be more readily available to those under the legal age.
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Forty-two percent of 12- to 17-year olds can buy marijuana in a day or less; 23 percent in an hour or less.
Marijuana continues to be easier to buy than beer: 23 percent of teens find it easiest to buy compared to 15 percent who find beer easiest to buy.
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