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Calling someone 'articulate' is now racist and offensive

Desert Storm said:
Please tell us how being articulate is an insult.
If someone calls me articulate I would take that as a compliment
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It depends on the nature of how it was said

If Ivanka was surprised Fox was articulate because she was black it is an insult

if Fox was discussing a topic in great detail using highly technical words and Ivanka was surprised by that because she thought an actor would not have that type of knowledge, then it would be a compliment.

Given it was the Apprentice I expect it was the former rather than the latter
 
Desert Storm said:
No I wouldnt feel spoken down to, I would take it as a compliment.

And I would argue if YOU somehow feel thats an insult, then perhaps you dont consider yourself articulate
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Oh I do. More so than Ivanka Trump. If anyone expresses surprise that you 'speak well ' you have been spoken down to whether you recognize it or not.
But that's the issue here, innit? You don't recognize the condescension.
 
Grand Mal said:
Oh I do. More so than Ivanka Trump. If anyone expresses surprise that you 'speak well ' you have been spoken down to whether you recognize it or not.
But that's the issue here, innit? You don't recognize the condescension
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Maybe you are just used to being spoken down to a lot?? So you automatically assume it's an insult??
 
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Desert Storm said:
Maybe you are just used to being spoken down to a lot?? So you automatically assume it's an insult??
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Nice try. I'm used to people literally looking up at me, for a couple reasons. And if you think I have any doubts about my ability to use language, well, that'd be just another example of you not getting it.
Seriously. You and I just met. It's a group setting. You speak about some topic, you pick the topic, whatever, and I say to you, "Wow! You speak well!" You would feel complimented by my approval?
 
Mycroft said:
Didn't Biden say something similar about Obama?
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He did. And all the cons jumped on it.

Hmmm.....you don't think Cons act irrationally for partisan reasons do you?
 
rocket88 said:
He did. And all the cons jumped on it.

Hmmm.....you don't think Cons act irrationally for partisan reasons do you?
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And all the Dems ignored it, including the media.

But now, the Dems have their panties in a bunch and the media is gleefully splashing it all over the place.

Like I said...hypocrisy.
 
Mycroft said:
And all the Dems ignored it, including the media.

But now, the Dems have their panties in a bunch and the media is gleefully splashing it all over the place.

Like I said...hypocrisy.
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Wow! You speak well!

Do you kind of purr, get a fuzzy feeling from my approval or do you wonder who the hell I think I am to be offering my approval in the first place?
 
CaughtInThe said:
hell, i remember people saying that certain blacks folks were "articulate" dating back to the 60s. it seemed to be combined with "clean".

you know, "he's clean and articulate".
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....Which is what Bo Jiden said about Obama...
 
Grand Mal said:
Wow! You speak well!

Do you kind of purr, get a fuzzy feeling from my approval or do you wonder who the hell I think I am to be offering my approval in the first place?
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I would say he is really articulate for a " "
 
Mycroft said:
And all the Dems ignored it, including the media.

But now, the Dems have their panties in a bunch and the media is gleefully splashing it all over the place.

Like I said...hypocrisy.
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Hypocrisy on both sides.

Yes, it's kind of a racist thing to say.
 
Roadvirus said:
I stand corrected.

I coulda sworn it was Reid.
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Reid's claim to fame was lying about Romney on the Senate floor and then afterward saying, "It worked, didn't it?"
 
Grand Mal said:
If someone you don't know says to you the first time you meet, "Wow! You speak very well!" you wouldn't feel spoken down to? You wouldn't wonder why they're surprised?
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How did you know that they were surprised?

Grand Mal said:
I would. I'd make some sarcastic reply.
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Then you probably have low self-esteem. You think that people complimenting you on your language capabilities is "speaking down to you".

So tell me, under what circumstances will you consider, "you speak very well" to be a genuine compliment?
 
Grand Mal said:
Seriously. You and I just met. It's a group setting. You speak about some topic, you pick the topic, whatever, and I say to you, "Wow! You speak well!" You would feel complimented by my approval?
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How is that an "approval"? It is just a compliment. One that the woman chose to get offended over. Get some self-esteem.
 
Tiny said:
How did you know that they were surprised?


Then you probably have low self-esteem. You think that people complimenting you on your language capabilities is "speaking down to you".

So tell me, under what circumstances will you consider, "you speak very well" to be a genuine compliment?
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"Wow!" means surprise.
And It's my strong sense of self-esteem that tells me that anyone who deigns to remark on my ability with language is being condescending. Isn't it that way with you? I go into any interaction knowing that whomever I'm engaging with is no more than my equal in terms of eloquence, and maybe less so. Much less, sometimes.
The only circumstance that would make me consider "You speak well!" a compliment would be me using a language other than English.
 
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Tiny said:
How is that an "approval"? It is just a compliment. One that the woman chose to get offended over. Get some self-esteem.
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Compliments come from approval. Get some language skills.
 
Grand Mal said:
"Wow!" means surprise.
And It's my strong sense of self-esteem that tells me that anyone who deigns to remark on my ability with language is being condescending. Isn't it that way with you? I go into any interaction knowing that whomever I'm engaging with is no more than my equal in terms of eloquence, and maybe less so. Much less, sometimes.
The only circumstance that would make me consider "You speak well!" a compliment would be me using a language other than English.
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I guess it really depends on the tone of the person and the circumstances.
 
Tiny said:
I don't want to get into a prolonged exchange over whether compliments come from approval.


Lol, you are butt-hurt.
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No more than you. "Get some self-esteem."
And no prolonged exchange is necessary. Compliments come from approval. Sincere ones anyway. So where does this leave us in the discussion of Ivanka Trump saying to a black woman, "Wow! You speak well!"

Damn. Ivanka Trump. Would you really feel complimented if she told you that you speak well?
 
Grand Mal said:
No more than you. "Get some self-esteem."
And no prolonged exchange is necessary. Compliments come from approval. Sincere ones anyway. So where does this leave us in the discussion of Ivanka Trump saying to a black woman, "Wow! You speak well!"

Damn. Ivanka Trump. Would you really feel complimented if she told you that you speak well?
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Well like I said, it depends on the tone of the person and the circumstances.
 
Desert Storm said:
Jeezus Christ are Liberals ever stupid. I couldnt make this shit up if I tried.
Is there ever a time when Lefties are not offended?? 😂

www.dailymail.co.uk

Vivica A Fox accuses Ivanka Trump of racist comment on Apprentice

In a discussion about racial controversies on reality TV the actress, 56, recalled how the former president's daughter, 39, told her in 2015: 'Wow, you speak very well.'
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Quick question, what does this have to do with liberals?

Quick answer, nothing.

This is simply one clown talking about what another clown said.
 
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