Yes, because government ruins everything.
From the article:
Yet another government failure to add to the mile-long list of government failures.
Marijuana is one of the safest drugs known to man. It does not need to regulated or taxed, and growers do not need to be licensed, nor should they be forced to buy permits.
As a life long smoker I beg to differ. I much prefer to have some regulation for production and distribution to ensure uncontaminated quality products. Edibles MUST be regulated to keep out of the hands of children in particular. Now don't get me wrong in Canada, the gov't imposed the most ridiculous packaging requirements and in Ontario completely bungled the roll out of legal outlets and the arbitrary thc limit on edibles is nonsensical as just a couple of examples.
REgulation requires enforcement which requires money and manpower. Taxing the product being regulated is the right way for government to pay for it. Not to mention creating a substantial additional revenue stream, over and above such costs.
Its an unregulated untaxed industry now, and criminal lowlifes are enjoying the cream. Legalize it, reduce the black market to niche consumption, empower individuals to grow their own limited number of plants if they are so inclined and all of a sudden a whole lot of criminals are out of jobs, and a whole lot of cops, lawyers, judges, and parole officers and will have to find other stuff to do. NOt to mention all those private prisons having to replace their largest source of "clients".
i don't know about california, but in Canada commercial growers need licenses that state the number of plants a commercial grower can grow. Anecdotally I hear that in Ontario they have started regular inspections.
THey were very upfront about taxation when they were campaigning for it. I like how much of the tax $ goes to schools and other things.
I'm not a big user, I like the stores and the very helpful and knowledgeable staff. And the increased likelihood of consistency and safety in the product. And the variety!
I dont like bargain basement wine or liquor, why would I penny pinch on pot?
I like how much of the tax $ goes to schools and other things.
My California friend told me, only idiots buy legal weed. The taxes and other government fees make it so expensive compared to black market weed.
Did you think legalizing weed would turn out this bad? I didn't.
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My California friend told me, only idiots buy legal weed. The taxes and other government fees make it so expensive compared to black market weed.
Did you think legalizing weed would turn out this bad? I didn't.
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And just how extensive is the black market for home brew booze - not stolen, but home brew?
Exactly.
There will be ongoing problems until it is legal federally and at least a very strong majority of states. There will always be a black market as long as there are places where it cannot be sold legally.
Know the best way to do it? The way MA did: legal pot shops, and if you follow a few easy-to-follow rules, an individual can grow 6 plants, making 12 for a household. If you use auto-flowering plants, which are generally harvestable 9-12 weeks after sprouting, you can grow far more than you'll ever use. If you ever need to buy anything, it'll be edibles unless you're into making those yourself as well.
Know the best way to do it? The way MA did: legal pot shops, and if you follow a few easy-to-follow rules, an individual can grow 6 plants, making 12 for a household. If you use auto-flowering plants, which are generally harvestable 9-12 weeks after sprouting, you can grow far more than you'll ever use. If you ever need to buy anything, it'll be edibles unless you're into making those yourself as well.
Hey, I got a guy for shine! lol... He makes this apple booze that is actually bloody amazing, and strong AF. He supplies the entire plant my brother in law works for. I get the occasional mason jar from him - yep, he uses mason jars...lol... A little Alabama right here in Ontario. :lol:
Of course, growing your own is the best way to go. There's a bit of a learning curve, but it gets easier the more you're willing to invest. As for edibles and concentrates, the University of YouTube shows just how easy it is. For about $500, you can buy everything you need to make the finest quality hash oil. Probably less, but the system I like lets you recycle almost all your alcohol - by way of a still, no less...haha...
Even if you get legalization at all levels, you'll have a black market as long as the price is so high that they can still make a profit by undercutting it. Pot is legal across Canada in every state, and there are still LOTS of people selling in the black market, for this very reason. Once you start growing your own, you realize how easy it is, and, more importantly, how cheap it is.
I have more productive ways to use my time than to grow weed, and why tf should I have to? This is as dumb as forcing me to grow my own vegetables and raise chickens so I can have eggs for breakfast.
My California friend told me, only idiots buy legal weed. The taxes and other government fees make it so expensive compared to black market weed.
Did you think legalizing weed would turn out this bad? I didn't.
.
My California friend told me, only idiots buy legal weed. The taxes and other government fees make it so expensive compared to black market weed.
Did you think legalizing weed would turn out this bad? I didn't.
.
My California friend told me, only idiots buy legal weed. The taxes and other government fees make it so expensive compared to black market weed.
Did you think legalizing weed would turn out this bad? I didn't.
.
Ehhhh, I provided a link to an article about the subject.
Sacramento – The California Department of Tax and Fee Administration (CDTFA) reported revenue numbers today for cannabis sales for the 4th quarter of 2019. As of February 18, 2020, California's cannabis excise tax generated $84.4 million in revenue reported on the 4th quarter 2019 returns due by January 31, 2020, and the cultivation tax generated $23.6 million.
Sales tax from cannabis businesses totaled $64.7 million in revenue for the same period. Sales tax applies to sales of cannabis, cannabis productsnd other tangible personal property. Certain retail sales of medicinal cannabis are exempt from sales and use taxes when the purchaser provides at the time of purchase a valid Medical Marijuana Identification Card issued by the California Department of Public Health and a valid government-issued identification card.
Total tax revenue reported by the cannabis industry is $172.7 million for 4th quarter returns due by January 31, 2020. This does not include tax revenue collected by each jurisdiction. Previously reported revenue for 3rd quarter 2019 returns was revised to $170.1 million, which included $84.4 million in cannabis excise tax, $22.7 million in cultivation tax, and $63 million in sales tax. Revisions to quarterly data are the result of amended and late returns, and other tax return adjustments.
Since January 2018, total program revenue to date is $1.03 billion, which includes $498.1 million in cannabis excise tax, $123.4 million in cultivation tax, and $403.1 million in sales tax.
People are so gullible that think Pot revenue is the answer to a states fiscal woes(LOL)
Is this home brew thing big up there?
I really have not read about much of any significant black market booze production here in the states. Maybe you still find people brewing for themselves/families/friends in various parts, but not a serious market.
As for weed, one local shop is more expensive than my guy used to have, and another one cheaper. Both are top-quality, and besides, I know they're pretty exacting when it comes to standards and check-ups for stuff like pesticide use.
If we remove government taxes and fees on legal weed, that will destroy the black market.
Mines in BC with three day delivery (pre covid now 7). As i mentioned in an earlier post that legal sources actually have excellent quality control to go along with a really superb ranges of strains of differing strengths to suit every user. I personally like the higher thc concentration strains and I am delighted to have my pick of them.
dream come true for this ol' hippie.
My California friend told me, only idiots buy legal weed. The taxes and other government fees make it so expensive compared to black market weed.
Did you think legalizing weed would turn out this bad? I didn't.
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